Velsomnia

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There's no types of NTR. NTR is cuckolding. Rape is not cuckolding/NTR. It is just commonly used as a vehicle for NTR. It doesn't even need to be present. If your wife/girlfriend cheats on you and you accept it, that's NTR. NTR refers to the willing participation of the party to be unfaithful.

To argue that rape is NTR would argue that the woman who was raped was a willing participant, in which case is, by definition, not rape.
If you accept it its generally considered netorase which again goes back to those of us that are into this have our own specific definitions. Netorase is stuff like hotwifing and swinging, not stuff like combat rape or molestation at a job.

Look if we keep this up a mod is going to get mad for derailing the thread off topic, this is an endless debate where both sides disagree and i will leave it at that.
 

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Venator309

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Thats a very specific form of NTR which is why those of us that enjoy it are fighting so hard to have the tags better defined on here. From my rusty memory I believe your referring to NTR Type A where your love eventually comes to love the other person more than you. Rape in games is a very specific type of NTR where your love is taken but utterly hates that its happening and never loves it. So if there is monster rape in this game then yes it is technically NTR and would need the tag, hopefully if we can get the tags updated to a VNDB standard this will be more clearly defined.
People on this site try to turn literally everything into NTR lol.
 

Velsomnia

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People on this site try to turn literally everything into NTR lol.
I agree that sometimes it gets a bit extreme but in fantasy people get very defensive about things. The amount of times that ive tried to explain to people to just look at it like its porn only to have them go off is insane.
 
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The main reason why I'm annoyed about this, and why I'm annoyed by similar situations in other threads, though not necessarily specifically about NTR... is because adding the tag to a game that doesn't have the fetish in a real capacity just pisses off the people that look FOR that fetish.

I've said it once, I'll say it as many times as it takes. The tags should be for the people that look for the fetishes first and foremost. Not for the people that avoid them.

NTR is especially bad in terms of poor tagging, but I've seen it with just about everything at some point or another. If there isn't a serious and clear representation of a fetish, it shouldn't be tagged. And if the rules say otherwise, I question the sanity of whoever made said rules.

More importantly, the game is already tagged as rape. There's a big boobed blonde on the front page image. The heck do people expect?!

To an extent, even the presence of the tentacle tag kind of annoys me, because, if I'm not mistaken, there's only one tentacle scene in this game, correct?
 
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Velsomnia

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The main reason why I'm annoyed about this, and why I'm annoyed by similar situations in other threads, though not necessarily specifically about NTR... is because adding the tag to a game that doesn't have the fetish in a real capacity just pisses off the people that look FOR that fetish.

I've said it once, I'll say it as many times as it takes. The tags should be for the people that look for the fetishes first and foremost. Not for the people that avoid them.

NTR is especially bad in terms of poor tagging, but I've seen it with just about everything at some point or another. If there isn't a serious and clear representation of a fetish, it shouldn't be tagged. And if the rules say otherwise, I question the sanity of whoever made said rules.

More importantly, the game is already tagged as rape. There's a big boobed blonde on the front page image. The heck do people expect?!

To an extent, even the presence of the tentacle tag kind of annoys me, because, if I'm not mistaken, there's only one tentacle scene in this game, correct?
Rape is ambiguous though, unless you see male protag in the tag list then I guess you can make the leap. Other than that pretty much every female protag game is rape so just seeing a picture of a girl doesnt mean anything.
 

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the problem i see people have with ntr is that it is very broad but they think it only applies to cheating this game does count as ntr type c "The heroine is raped in front of the protagonist and he can only helplessly watch it. It's non-consensual from start to finish." from vndb
 
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MTL_EN_j0yer

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Lmao cucks defending Rape as a separate fetish :geek: :rolleyes: and ignoring the fact that MC is literally creating an enabling situation for Rape, be it movtivated by the sister rescue/relic hunt/ or a general sense of adventure companionship from sticking with the girl, NOT attempting to seek out a third party rescue effort but CREATING the circumstance to put her in harms way. NETORARE NETORASE Whatever the fuck you call it , having
any contact with another dick besides their own instantly means cucked so they made a specific type of ntr to mean rape. So yeah now even if your girl is forced its still somehow her fault.
Some sort of ya'll twisting this into a IRL "Omg you disgusting person you are blaming the girl for getting raped as she didnt wear a hijab and therefore its consentual as she was inviting" false equivalance when its literally a PORN game where you CHOOSE to risk danger and witness her get raped heplessly (Literally war crime in this case) LMAO. Stop sub-categoizing cuckolding, what's cucked is cucked
 

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I kept running out of cards and losing to the final boss, and thought the game was at a good difficulty. I only just realized you can have more than 7 cards in your deck after upgrading it...
 

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Could someone please tell me how to beat the winged armchair girl? Literally, what cards I need to have, what gems, and which cards I need to discard and which ones to keep. Thank you!

At the very least please screenshot your "Dungeon Record" page for the "Queen's Garden".
 
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