Ren'Py Abandoned Teacher's Pets [v2.06.1] [irredeemable]

[smnb]

Main point, who decides if something violates Patreon rules? No suprise, it's Patreon. So trying to bend them or work around them, no matter how clever the idea would be, it may work, but it might not. Also from their legal page:

We can terminate or suspend your account at any time at our discretion. We can also cancel any pledges and remove any content or rewards at our discretion.

It's hard to win here.

 

[A.J.]

Can't wait anymore for 1.7..

 

[irredeemable]

Main point, who decides if something violates Patreon rules? No suprise, it's Patreon. So trying to bend them or work around them, no matter how clever the idea would be, it may work, but it might not. Also from their legal page:

It's hard to win here.

It's not that hard to win. You just have to make 20k+ a month and then they let you do whatever you want.

 

[bradb87]

It's not that hard to win. You just have to make 20k+ a month and then they let you do whatever you want.

Heh no problem then. For what it's worth regarding your 'change' of vision, I'll take seduction over coercion any day. The only minor annoyance I have with the game is all the characters look a little duck-faced, but the story development has become really promising and the quality of writing and tongue-in-cheek humor puts it a cut above most of the rest. Keep doing what you're doing, it's all good

 

[papasmurf]

eta on new update?

 

[Dasati]

eta on new update?

Probably be a while yet, Deems back to work on it but he couldn't focus on it during the whole Patreon debacle (could anyone in his position?). I'm sure once he has an eta for the alpha test release he'll let us know.

 

[paladin07]

the Demo is not part of the original game its a different project all together but quite compliant to patreons terms.
you can advertise that demo all you want it just happens part of that advertisement happens to be on the game people are actually supporting and the advert is specifically said to be about the complying game demo its legalese but it stands up even a lawyer could use it in court

I'm a lawyer and I think this is a shit plan.

 

[paladin07]

By no means supporting what crap Patreon is doing but you are referencing the SC of the US. In other countries, such as my own, Canukistan, virtual portrayals of underage will still get you arrested. Not sure about incest but it wouldn't surprise me. This applies to even portrayals by people OF AGE who are only pretending to be underage. *sigh* Love my country but some of our court decisions are really fucking weird.

Canada, like the UK, also has some kind of hate speech law which would never survive the first amendment in the United States.

 

[dbp5ca]

Canada, like the UK, also has some kind of hate speech law which would never survive the first amendment in the United States.

Naw I get the hate speech thing and I agree it wouldn't survive a constitutional challenge in the US. What really burns me are the other ones, specific to this thread, the laws regarding porn where the portrayal is actually illegal regardless of the actual facts ASW it. Some of the "role play" porn in the US would actually lead to charges against you. IANAL but I play one in my day job ;-P
Hate speech legislation I can kinda sortof get behind if it isn't abused. Unfortunately that is hardly ever the case.

 

[401Grem]

Canada, like the UK, also has some kind of hate speech law which would never survive the first amendment in the United States.

Yes, especially when we established that it encompasses most all forms of expression.

 

[trier21]

Yes, especially when we established that it encompasses most all forms of expression.

Huh, american free speech dosn't cover private companies. Private companies can do whatever they want

 

[foursnacks]

Hey guys, can we stop talking about free speech, Patreon and Deem's difficulties and get back to the game? Deem made his choice, Patreon is doing whatever they want and nothing is going be changed by people here rehashing what has happened.

I would far rather have Deem work on the game than get into emotional diatribes that won't solve anything.

The only difficulties I want to hear about are how are we going to seduce Sara and Kaitlin...

 

[Ignazzio]

Don't wanna be a bringer of sadness but that's the answer Faerin received directly from Patreon. It seems kinda serious:

We define incest as sexual activity between family members or relatives. We also include larger extended family, which means that we don’t only look at the blood line but also stepfamily members whether or not they are bound by law. If for example the characters call each other sister and brother or mother and son, we will review the content as incest. For clarification, your assumption is correct. The Community Guidelines apply to all content that is funded through Patreon -- this extends to content that is patron-only, as well as the content itself, no matter where it's shared with patrons. For example, I've seen creators where their Patreon page looks "clean," but saw that they kept sharing violative content through direct messages. This would still be a violation as the creator is using Patreon to fund and share the violative content. As for your second question: hosting Patreon-funded content on other sites is acceptable as long as the content falls within our Community Guidelines. If we see violative Patreon-funded content linked back to Patreon, we reserve the right to hold the creator accountable to our guidelines. I can see a creator having a "dual" presence online: a website that hosts content that's considered violative to Patreon's guidelines, and a Patreon account where they fund content of a different theme -- but there is no link or relation between the two. As long as there's no "Check out my Patreon page here" on the hosting website, then it wouldn't be a violation.

 

[Dasati]

I think with Sara an obvious in is how you helped her with the election, and your position of power and influence as a teacher. With Kaitlyn, i think the in will be, that you help her with her more rebellious behaviour, like when you buy booze for her.

 

[smnb]

Don't wanna be a bringer of sadness but that's the answer Faerin received directly from Patreon. It seems kinda serious:

1) Daughter
2) Step-daughter
3) Poor homeless girl (to which MC provided a shelter from a kindness of his heart, while of course not thinking about exploiting her in any way, even though it will be hard to justify when spying on her, etc)
4) ???

Is it perhaps best to skip all these unnecessary intermediate steps (because lets face it, whole teacher - student relation is doomed too, the position of authority and stuff) and go directly to only allowed future "porn" game, where MC will be permitted to have sex with his wife, but only missionary, twice a month max, and under the sheets only?

 

[Ignazzio]

Patreon's CEO probably just hates Game Of Thrones but can't ban such a thing so he's picking on poor devs. I doubt they will pick on anything non-extreme, and let's face it - for people not into adult games incest is extreme as fuck. I wonder what will they do next if they clearly said that most of their adult games should be at least suspended. Love their way of communication.

 

[Vousetesconnard]

well there are alternatives if patreon gets too snippy. here is the terms for one of those alternatives if youwant to create your own site for the game.

You must be registered to see the links

 

[gestved]

well, make D an overly attached exchange student

 

[Ignazzio]

She could be a maid or something like that. I wonder if wife is a family member:/

 

[irredeemable]

well, make D an overly attached exchange student

This is the current plan.