Patreon isn't an investment. You aren't paying for a product or anything, it's a tip jar to support people who make stuff you like. There is no obligation of return.
Im aware of that, maybe i poorly chose my words. What i should have said was "it is disheartening for some who are patrons, to have waited so long for an update that may or may not come."
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except if they arent making stuff you cant really call it supporting their creation. like i get what you're trying to say but even if we are just talking about supporting the creative process or whatever you kinda have to expect some sort of end result right?
It's just my prediction based on how things are going. I did ask MD on discord and he said he doesn't give ETAs. Also, I've been told he doesn't update on what's done with V3 anymore. No ETAs because he fails to meet them and no detailed info for V3 because he doesn't like giving spoilers. But he did tell me he's still working on it. So far most of the streams have been concept art on areas not in V3 or the near future. So who knows when the next update is coming out.
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Most are hosted on the game's Discord and none are finished. All of them can be accessed only with debug mode. Linking them in the OP would only make sense with something more complete. Perhaps when V3 comes out people will pick up on mods again, without the worry they will break with the new update. I know I will do that.
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After all these years, do you actually think V3 is that likely, realistically if people were still working on their mods they could have finished them by now, and yeah next update would break everything, but it'll just mean you need to fix it. Fence sitting on this grand stand of waitting till something won't break, is and always was kind a foolish.Most are hosted on the game's Discord and none are finished. All of them can be accessed only with debug mode. Linking them in the OP would only make sense with something more complete. Perhaps when V3 comes out people will pick up on mods again, without the worry they will break with the new update. I know I will do that.
And I don't mean this to sound like an attack on you, before you start typing, just never been a fan of this loop of people never doing things.
If real life animals had human intelligence, then it would be acceptable, at least morally. Animals can't give consent, none of them can, except for humans, and it's wrong in the same way it's unacceptable to have sex with a human who can't give consent. Feral shit is gross though, so maybe it's an instinctual thing to dislike. In this case, I'd say that it violates the T&S, the ferals submit to you after you beat the shit out of them, there's no consent.Is the defining thing that makes something not bestiality sapience? Since sapient being are able to give consent?
Would they accept it if a real life animal were sapient and gave consent? or no? So, even though the ferals are not sapient and are incapable of giving consent in a number of contexts, it's ok to rape them because they are so bizarre that rape is no longer repugnant? and not sexual violence?
What I can say for sure is that I feel morally appalled by myself resorting to the usage of an emoticon to visually express how frustratingly ambiguous I find patreon's community guidelines.
Now don't take this as me wanting Meandraco to loose their petreon page (which I don't want), but either petreon doesn't look that closely to the content (which I'm pretty sure they do) or has some pretty weird sense of morality regarding the rape of bizarre looking creatures.
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Minus the ones that do give consent, tho this sounds more like rape vs normal sex, then any other sound argument.
I think I would still argue that it's rape, at least for most of the ferals, since they don't seem to display intelligence, and rather submit instinctually(Even if there is no violence). It's not as bad as if it were a dog or other animal, having a different opinion on it is completely fine, it's fiction.
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Yep. I think it's likely, considering development has never been abandoned and about 3/4 of V3 is done.
A lot of mods never went anywhere because of the lack of updates. A lot started when V2 released and when the hope was for faster updates. Not sure why you would expect for mods to be done by now.
How is it foolish? It's hardly a grand stand, and I have other projects to work on. V3 will come out eventually, and making a mod after that saves me time.
My opinion is that V3 definitely will come out, and even if it feels underwhelming after all these years we should be here to celebrate it with no reservations. Nobody else quite does surrealist work like meandraco through Teraurge, and it's something to really appreciate.
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If you are game dev, go get your account updated, that said I still haven't even seen proof anything had actually been done. And no one else has either. We don't have pre-release, no test builds, no 2.1-2.5, we have version 2, and an update from 2019-05-14. Plus the dev has taken a break at one point.
As the old adage goes, "NO gameplay, NO hype"