VN Ren'Py Completed Terror [Christmas Special] [PowerPlower]

Harem Trooper

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I tried this game out and im a bit confused.
I thought first this was a X-Mas special from dev. previous game called "Hello World" but after reading the comments and his patreon it turns out this is his new game but it opens with a "X-Mas Special" before it even started.
I mean I dont mind, wholesome moments are wholesome moments and I take them where I can find them but after playing the game and reading the description of the game on his patreon and comparing them to this thread description its more like "what if" scenario ?
You know, like most of these X-Mas specials are in many porn games where they are not cannon and are mostly for fan service.
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Perhaps Im reading to much into it and this is just a prolog-type of thing ?

Well, anyway...
The Relationship is also kinda weird, or lets say I dont see very often (That dosent mean I hate it).
Perhaps to avoid the ban hammer from Patreon but the Relationship seems plausible.
-MC had a wife but they are divorced now.
-MC is sterile and because they couldnt made any kids, they adopted before the divorce one girl called "Ava".
-MC finds a new girl/fiance "Melissa", they love each other but she dosent like Sex. :WaitWhat:
-Melissa has two daughers, "Amelia" and "Nora"
-MC has a "Best Friend" :LUL: and he has a Sister called "Pavani" who it seems MC brought her up as a second Parent.
(Im not sure what that means. Is it that MC just spend much time with her in the past and "raised" her :unsure:?)

In this short game you get to know the characters a bit.
Some are mentioned who will perhaps play a bigger role like Evelyn and Damien.
(Is Evelyn MC ex-wife or why did Ava spent time with them ? She told she didnt liked there very much)
But my concerns lies with with MC "Best Friend". The story kinda hinted that he is pretty down and cant come because of this to the X-Mas party. So from my experience I think its this guy where you will "protect" your family from.

Because thats what the dev. said:
Did the special want to make you protect your family, your life?
That would be perfect, because we want you to. Terror is about protecting a lot, I don't want to go into details yet.
Or im completely wrong here and its about MC getting "tempted" to bang the daughters/friends sister or any other girl which will end in a bad end. Otherwise I dont see much where "Terror" would come handy.

Models looking good, the environment has much details.
Characters are lovely. Each of them has their own "type". But Im kinda disappointed on MC new girl/fiance because she is just blant right now. Probably when the game came out we will understand her more.
There is only one option to choose in the game, during the Dinner.
It wont effect the game but I suggest to watch every one because you get a bit more understanding what each of them feels about the MC ;).
Since every option you choose end up with a specific girl hugging you I dont think this will be a game where you can have a harem. But once again im probably reading to much into it.

And then this happens when you get your gift :whistle::

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There is only one Sex scene but from what the game is its understandable.
Ah, and one more thing. This X-Mas special should be wholesome ? Then were is handholding ?

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Harem Trooper

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I may be misremembering, but didn't you have to play through the game once and get the bad end (incl. humiliation or NTR or whatever you want to call it) to even unlock playing it again and getting the best ending? That seemed like an odd design choice.
Really ? Do I really need to play the NTR for the mini harem end ?
 

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Really ? Do I really need to play the NTR for the mini harem end ?
As I said, I may be misremembering. It was certainly the case that you had to play through the game several times to unlock other options but I'm fuzzy on the details (I never want to play through one of these games more than once). In any case, further discussion probably belongs in the thread for that game.
 

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Eon Able As others have said, make the game you want, tell the story your way, and stay true to your vision. All most of us want is that you don't suddenly add in story-changing fetishes (like NTR) without a warning or some lampshading.
 
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I may be misremembering, but didn't you have to play through the game once and get the bad end (incl. humiliation or NTR or whatever you want to call it) to even unlock playing it again and getting the best ending?
No. That would take away the core concept.

Oh? Avoidable NTR sounds good. But what does mini harem means ?
Like you get every LI in the end ? Or is it only limited to 2 or 3 girls from about the whole female cast ?
The tags dont have it but I read your post about having a small harem but there is no real explanation.
You will need to finish the good ending first, to get to the 2 girl ending. You will find help in the game thread, but it should be possible without.
 
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MC has no living relatives. The adopted daugther is truly adopted and not just a way to get around patreon.


Edit: Not saying there can be something with Ava or there can’t. Just saying it’s impossible to have incest.
 
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Whew...I had to get my blood pressure under control when you mentioned that coke with the whiskey. I was worried for a moment...all is good now, though. ;)
 

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Just saying it’s impossible to have incest.
Just saying... if she is legally adopted by the MC, and we get to tap her ass, since it's obvious that she's having a crush on her daddy, it makes it incest... beware of patreon's moral fuckers having a seizure and persecuting you.;)

MC finds a new girl/fiance "Melissa", they love each other but she dosent like Sex.
A blonde with a body like that doesn't like to get fucked when most of the time blondes are just fuck toys and cheap sluts in these games... that's blasphemy.:LOL: But joke aside, that's really stupid. I mean, I'd understand if her reason for not wanting to have sex anymore is based on some toxic relationships with her ex(es) or some dark shit like rape/attempted rape and domestic violence, but anything else is ridiculous. How the fuck did she get pregnant... by holding hands and wishing to have kids ??

So from my experience I think its this guy where you will "protect" your family from.
Yeah, that's what I suspect too, and that Terror in the title doesn't make me feel optimistic about an even battle.

But Im kinda disappointed on MC new girl/fiance because she is just blant right now. Probably when the game came out we will understand her more.
I guess the asexual wife will become a cumdump who can't stop fucking guys, coz her husband can't give it to her good and the others are sooo much better than him. It's the only logical conclusion we can draw from a game that's called "Terror" and the prudish, asexual wife bullshit.

You better dont touch these girls@ Eon Able !
Wanna bet ??:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

@Eon Able As others have said, make the game you want, tell the story your way, and stay true to your vision. All most of us want is that you don't suddenly add in story-changing fetishes (like NTR) without a warning or some lampshading.
Fully agree with this. The dev should make the game how they think it's best, tell the story how they want, but NEVER add surprises like NTR, if they claim there won't be NTR in the story, or a non NTR path in a NTR game. Cucking, humiliation, dumb sluts as LIs, pathetic/stereotypical midget MCs should never be in a non NTR game. As long as they're upfront about what stuff ppl should expect to see in their game, nobody will complain.:WeSmart:
 

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A blonde with a body like that doesn't like to get fucked when most of the time blondes are just fuck toys and cheap sluts in these games... that's blasphemy.:LOL: But joke aside, that's really stupid. I mean, I'd understand if her reason for not wanting to have sex anymore is based on some toxic relationships with her ex(es) or some dark shit like rape/attempted rape and domestic violence, but anything else is ridiculous. How the fuck did she get pregnant... by holding hands and wishing to have kids ??
I guess the asexual wife will become a cumdump who can't stop fucking guys, coz her husband can't give it to her good and the others are sooo much better than him. It's the only logical conclusion we can draw from a game that's called "Terror" and the prudish, asexual wife bullshit.
Perhaps I didnt phrased it right. She dont hate it like she gets in full rage mode when she is forced to do but she seems to avoid it, at least thats what I got from this short special. She loves MC very much that despite her stand against it she gave MC a BJ.
MC mentioned that they didnt had sex for about a year and its not like MC is whimp.
Perhaps something happend in her past like you said, or she just dont like sex. But im pretty sure that we will "cure" her if we stay on the right side ;).
What are the chances that her sexual experience is that bad because her ex-husband or partners were just bad with it but once she gets to know MC Dong she gets addicted ? :unsure: (Classic Hentai scenario :cool:)

The thing is we dont know what the real game will be like.
I mean "Terror" alone dosent say much. From what dev. said on his patreon post about this game, how MC Best Friend Shray got introduced in this this game and from my experience I also thought about NTR first. Like he has it bad at the moment and he will stay in the house and he will corrupt the girls and you as the MC will have the option to stop it. You know, your typical NTR plot.

But the more I thought about it the more I had my doubts.
Because "Terror" is not the first thing what comes to my mind when protecting your family from a creep who wants to shag them. If you will have the option to prevend the first scene, then from there the "terror" ends since you stopped him and therefore the story ends. I think the "protecting" MC life and of his family will be something different.
The best solution is to wait for the 0.1 version to come out and see.
 
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I don't think I've ran across a game with a character that has Hypoactive Sexual Desire Disorder. It will be interesting to see if you handle her condition with an educated nuance, or if she becomes a caricature molded to fit a twisted story.

The disorder is both psychological and physiological in nature, quite common (about 25% of premenopausal and 50% of post-menopausal women in the US) and takes both counseling and, occasionally, hormone replacement therapy to treat. It does not, as some Neanderthal implied, have anything to do with the husband (or whomever) not 'giving it to her' good enough. In a person with this disorder they realize their behavior is atypical and become distressed about it. It's not that sex hurts or is uncomfortable (they actually thrive with intimacy), but they rarely think to initiate it and don't consider it necessary for their well-being.

What we're shown in this short piece is a woman who recognizes her condition and also recognizes her need to contribute to her fiancée's happiness. That's about as good as it gets with someone with this condition. Where the problem will lie in their relationship is if the MC thinks he can 'fix' her. When he can't, he will become frustrated and demanding. I have a feeling he will be given the option to have physical relations with other females in the group which the wife will likely see as something of a relief.

Personally, I hope the story doesn't devolve into a harem game like so many mediocre games on this site. Regardless, will be watching this one.

As for you young guys...cheer up, you have a 50-50 chance of your wife still being sexually motivated after 50 y/o. :p
 

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about 25% of premenopausal and 50% of post-menopausal women in the US
Damn, and I thought this is just a rare phenomenon.
I thought since after the woman loses her ability to menstruate in her late 50, her carvings would increase.
But like I said she seems not to really like it but at least she knows what to do to keep the relationship alive.

I have a feeling he will be given the option to have physical relations with other females in the group which the wife will likely see as something of a relief.

As for you young guys...cheer up, you have a 50-50 chance of your wife still being sexually motivated after 50 y/o. :p
I doubt the wife will take it lightly when she finds out her husbands bangs her daughters...until its a harem end :cool:.
As long one end have it Im happy.
But your right, since the wife wont give the MC the necessary satisfaction, and the constant teasing and provocation of the other chicks in the house will break the MC which will start his wacky adventure. But how will this all work in a setting with a dark undertone ?
Anway, I gonna take the bet. MC will cure his wife with his schlong. :LUL:
 

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Not bad for a start, Eon Able. I like that you offer the option of renaming characters if you want (I didn't) from the very beginning. Sometimes developers add it later and then force you to start a new game later because what once had been just text is now a variable, which won't have been defined unless you start over.

I also like what WuzzyFuzzy mentioned, that you have a character struggling with HSDD. I'm intrigued to see how you handle this going forward.

Here are a few minor things I've found, either possible bugs or points that slightly confuse me:
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I don't think I've ran across a game with a character that has Hypoactive Sexual Desire Disorder. It will be interesting to see if you handle her condition with an educated nuance, or if she becomes a caricature molded to fit a twisted story.

The disorder is both psychological and physiological in nature, quite common (about 25% of premenopausal and 50% of post-menopausal women in the US) and takes both counseling and, occasionally, hormone replacement therapy to treat. It does not, as some Neanderthal implied, have anything to do with the husband (or whomever) not 'giving it to her' good enough. In a person with this disorder they realize their behavior is atypical and become distressed about it. It's not that sex hurts or is uncomfortable (they actually thrive with intimacy), but they rarely think to initiate it and don't consider it necessary for their well-being.

What we're shown in this short piece is a woman who recognizes her condition and also recognizes her need to contribute to her fiancée's happiness. That's about as good as it gets with someone with this condition. Where the problem will lie in their relationship is if the MC thinks he can 'fix' her. When he can't, he will become frustrated and demanding. I have a feeling he will be given the option to have physical relations with other females in the group which the wife will likely see as something of a relief.

Personally, I hope the story doesn't devolve into a harem game like so many mediocre games on this site. Regardless, will be watching this one.

As for you young guys...cheer up, you have a 50-50 chance of your wife still being sexually motivated after 50 y/o. :p
I'm not sure from where you've taken your information, but the statistics actually vary greatly. This could be due to how someone interprets the term desire (not always the same from person to person); whether the person realizes it doesn't qualify ; and whether over their lack of desire or not.

According to one peer-reviewed double-blind study on , this affects a far lesser number of women than implied (8.9% of women 18–44; 12.3% from 45–64; and 7.4% over 65). Since numbers of women in each age group vary dramatically, we can't just add the percentages without coming to flawed and misleading conclusions.

If the above study is accurate, the overall percentage is much lower than the nearly half your reference indicates. 54.28% of the population of women in the United States (90.76 million) fall within the age ranges of 20–44, meaning that within well over half the population only 9% (8.16 million, based on the study I cited above) are affected by the disorder. The next grouping, 45–64, accounts for 42.35% of the population of American women (70.81 million), with only 12.3% (8.71 million) being affected. So, of a total of 96.63% of all women in America (161.58 million), only around 10% of them (16.87 million) are actually affected by the disorder. It's still large in total numbers and even percentage, but if this study is correct that would mean it's not nearly as high as the stats quoted before would imply.

Obviously, your point was that it's not incredibly rare. I'm just saying that it's also very possibly not as common as the study you've found has indicated. The numbers are far too variable to know for certain. I am also interested, like you said, on how this gets handled in the game. It's an interesting change to have a character with a condition like this, and I look forward to seeing Melissa's story progress.
 

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I'm not sure from where you've taken your information, but the statistics actually vary greatly. This could be due to how someone interprets the term desire (not always the same from person to person); whether the person realizes it doesn't qualify ; and whether over their lack of desire or not.
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Thanks for the reply!

I find it interesting, and enjoyable, that we're having a scholarly discussion about women's sexual health on this site...of all places. :giggle:

I agree that given the nature of how the disorder is defined, how one structures the survey to both quantify and qualify those with dysfunction, societal and cultural influence, etc, it becomes difficult to state accurate numbers. Nevertheless, evidence suggests it is a common condition among women. Among others, here are some of the articles I reviewed before I made my original post.




 

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Thanks for the reply!

I find it interesting, and enjoyable, that we're having a scholarly discussion about women's sexual health on this site...of all places. :giggle:

I agree that given the nature of how the disorder is defined, how one structures the survey to both quantify and qualify those with dysfunction, societal and cultural influence, etc, it becomes difficult to state accurate numbers. Nevertheless, evidence suggests it is a common condition among women. Among others, here are some of the articles I reviewed before I made my original post.




Hehe. I've seen weirder conversations here. :LOL:

It's definitely hard to assess accurate numbers without having made diagnoses on every single woman 18+ in the United States. It's possible any sampling could just happen to be heavily weighted in either direction. But yeah, even just 10% of the population would definitely qualify as common. I never realized myself in the past that this even was a disorder. I had always thought it was just a TV trope, like practically no women (other than some like nymphomaniacs) were excited about sex and that men only lost desire if they had a spouse they'd grown tired of or something. Of course, Hollywood sucks at giving false impressions of reality.

In Melissa's case, I do like the blowjob scene because it seemed realistic. I've not knowingly personally had experience with anyone I've been with having HSDD. That is to say, in any relationship I've had with a woman that's developed to the point where sex would be the next step, I've never had her then seem uninterested, stressed about it, robotic with it, or anything else that might make it seem like something was troubling her. (Then again, I could be oblivious since I'm usually wrapped up in the act, or they each could have been really great at hiding it.)

My point is that how Melissa acted in that scene made sense to what I would imagine. Whether it's accurately portrayed there or throughout is something yet to be seen (and hopefully be confirmed by people with experience with it). I'm a writer myself (though not in adult literature), so I'm always fascinated by learning new things about human behavior and experience.
 
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