VN Ren'Py Completed TESS - The Eternal Sunset Society [v0.3b] [Chris Eman]

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one more thing
i played few games with futa characters - devs mostly avoid to make titjobs with futa/trans, also scenes when mc licks futa's nipples, and kissing
more futa/mc scenes - blowjob, titjob and anal
about Milagros- sex horror scenes are rare and it will be really good to see scared mc being licked,teased, fucked by ghost/witch
sex with alive Milagros: ok
sex with undead: fuck yes:love:
 
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one more thing
i played few games with futa characters - devs mostly avoid to make titjobs with futa/trans, also scenes when mc licks futa's nipples, and kissing
more futa/mc scenes - blowjob, titjob and anal
about Milagros- sex horror scenes are rare and it will be really good to see scared mc being licked,teased, fucked by ghost/witch
sex with alive Milagros: ok
sex with undead: fuck yes:love:
Yes! well about that, later I regretted a bit the option of reviving Milagros, I understand what you mean about sex "uncomfortable" with other entities, particularly, I don't like it when it takes away seriousness (maybe with Milagros I felt that when reviving her, but I think it was because of the MC), LM revive is in 0. 1 and I'm stuck in 0.2, but, depending on the taste and the descicones, there can be that kind of scenes, more "uncomfortable" with entities and protagonists.
 

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Yes! well about that, later I regretted a bit the option of reviving Milagros, I understand what you mean about sex "uncomfortable" with other entities, particularly, I don't like it when it takes away seriousness (maybe with Milagros I felt that when reviving her, but I think it was because of the MC), LM revive is in 0. 1 and I'm stuck in 0.2, but, depending on the taste and the descicones, there can be that kind of scenes, more "uncomfortable" with entities and protagonists.
i'm downloading LM now and Tess again (cause i deleted whole folder with games which i played :FacePalm:)
i give this a try in few days - have too much stuff in work
you can always add option 'let Milagros be what she is now' - sounds cruel but sex with spirital entity could be something different
never said i felt uncomfortable about sex with Milagros or entity protag
I can make love to ghost Milagros and alive Milagros
i'm curious how sex with ghost look like
saw one maybe two games with horror style - i will try search them later - you can use them as help/advice
Now i'm gonna try LM
 
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i'm downloading LM now and Tess again (cause i deleted whole folder with games which i played :FacePalm:)
i give this a try in few days - have too much stuff in work
you can always add option 'let Milagros be what she is now' - sounds cruel but sex with spirital entity could be something different
never said i felt uncomfortable about sex with Milagros or entity protag
I can make love to ghost Milagros and alive Milagros
i'm curious how sex with ghost look like
saw one maybe two games with horror style - i will try search them later - you can use them as help/advice
Now i'm gonna try LM
Thank you!
Sure, sorry, when I said "uncomfortable" I meant something like "in general".
There is something that LM like TESS, has "rules" (this is lost in F95 because it is only the link to the VN) in Itch I go deeper, and that is that LM or TESS, apart from the NSFW, is a novel, that is to say there are rules for everything that exists, nothing is to the sar and encounters between humans and spiritual beings or returnees of the veil, has all its benefits and consequences.
Part of it can be seen (if you got there) with Alicia and Madame Medeleine in the VIP part of Awakening.
Hope Love MorteM can entertain you!
 

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[...] I had great updates per month and then arrive and see criticisms discouraged me, the last one I was the whole weekend! and I said, but what am I doing? it is consuming me just to receive that, the criticisms are constructive but not toxicity, and I being very new is like I'm just learning to deal with that.
Yes, the Sandbox is a double-edged sword, the bad thing is that you only see the fruits in updates already past the halfway point, but, it is true that there were concepts that I missed and that only in 0.3.b more or less try to compensate.
I'm really glad that you pay attention to the story! With everything I learned with TESS I took out another VN.

Love MorteM, although they are other characters, you will be very familiar because it is in the same universe and it would be like a spiritual sequel, also in terms of Lore, Love MorteM extends it [...]
It can definitely feel upsetting if something you've put so much effort into (or heart & soul, if you will) gets lots of negative feedback. The important thing is to not take it personally.
I'm sure that you've learned from this experience. You mentioned yourself that now you see several things that you would have done differently to improve the gameplay and you're applying this knowledge to another VN. That's very good and it's a step in the right direction!
I'll have a look at Love MorteM once I get the chance.

In the context of TESS, I forgot to mention one thing that might be helpful - since there's so much information to discover about the Lore, it might be helpful to have like a visual aid (like a separate screen that can be accessed via UI). It can be in the form of a graph (or a tree, or a pyramid, etc.) that would visually show the structure of each Society's branches and their main characters. It could also be revealed gradually as the player advances within the story. That would make it way easier to follow different characters and story as well. It's just an idea for better presentation - having all this information only in a long textual form during dialogues can be quite overwhelming.
If I recall correctly, towards the end of v0.3 there was discussion with Hemlock about a symbol representing Union of assemblies that I found very helpful (simply as a visual aid) for piecing the whole picture together.
Perhaps it could be used in the context of Love MorteM as well.
 
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It can definitely feel upsetting if something you've put so much effort into (or heart & soul, if you will) gets lots of negative feedback. The important thing is to not take it personally.
I'm sure that you've learned from this experience. You mentioned yourself that now you see several things that you would have done differently to improve the gameplay and you're applying this knowledge to another VN. That's very good and it's a step in the right direction!
I'll have a look at Love MorteM once I get the chance.

In the context of TESS, I forgot to mention one thing that might be helpful - since there's so much information to discover about the Lore, it might be helpful to have like a visual aid (like a separate screen that can be accessed via UI). It can be in the form of a graph (or a tree, or a pyramid, etc.) that would visually show the structure of each Society's branches and their main characters. It could also be revealed gradually as the player advances within the story. That would make it way easier to follow different characters and story as well. It's just an idea for better presentation - having all this information only in a long textual form during dialogues can be quite overwhelming.
If I recall correctly, towards the end of v0.3 there was discussion with Hemlock about a symbol representing Union of assemblies that I found very helpful (simply as a visual aid) for piecing the whole picture together.
Perhaps it could be used in the context of Love MorteM as well.
What you say is very true! and it's that maybe I'm too much stuck with that, the point was that in Lux MorteM you can find that library (from Father Sixthus) to do something like having a "memory aid".
In Love MorteM I added a "Lux MorteM forest codex" originally it would be just to explain the entities that you find, but, maybe I'll do as you say and expand it more so it is "stored" all the extra history.
Thanks for the advice!
 

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What you say is very true! and it's that maybe I'm too much stuck with that, the point was that in Lux MorteM you can find that library (from Father Sixthus) to do something like having a "memory aid".
In Love MorteM I added a "Lux MorteM forest codex" originally it would be just to explain the entities that you find, but, maybe I'll do as you say and expand it more so it is "stored" all the extra history.
Thanks for the advice!
like i said in LM
you putting too much story at first relases, do it slowly - more nudity, more lewd events and slowly add story facts
LM looks good, maybe sometimes filter is too dark - but still i like this style
more nude demon gals in next releases and it will be nice
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this is almost the same filter as yours - just little less darker :unsure:
https://attachments.f95zone.to/2020/06/717832_screenshot0004.png
The dark filter, is that I think it's a problem of my screen that was too light (and I was just making a denser environment!) but then I realized and tried to give more light, although I use something that you may see little because it is the most difficult thing "hard shadows" that gives that touch half "comics" and is the art that I like, although, I must struggle with that not to overdo it!

Mmm, let's see what you say, it's totally true! I mean, neither TESS nor LM have "the winning formula" on the contrary, it can be very boring because the H Scene is a long time coming, it's just that, I don't want to feel pressured in that aspect, and I repeat, I know that those things would give it more "punch" and I try to "negotiate" with it in the first installments, but it is not "the soul" of what I do, and you can check it with Patreon or looking for me in Itch, this has a very low profile, if I get to do that and it is not accepted, then it would be twice as difficult to continue working (I do not know if I explain myself well in this).
Take note, I try to put H Scene when I see that it is possible, but respecting the work, with TESS I started to put more H Scene content apart from 0.3 because it gave the context.
If I wanted to do a more "NSFW" VN I would do something like Big Brother or Summertime, this is not "devaluing", on the contrary, I think this would inspire me to focus on something more "Hot", but, ironically, it bores me to do the renders for a story like this.
 

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The dark filter, is that I think it's a problem of my screen that was too light (and I was just making a denser environment!) but then I realized and tried to give more light, although I use something that you may see little because it is the most difficult thing "hard shadows" that gives that touch half "comics" and is the art that I like, although, I must struggle with that not to overdo it!

Mmm, let's see what you say, it's totally true! I mean, neither TESS nor LM have "the winning formula" on the contrary, it can be very boring because the H Scene is a long time coming, it's just that, I don't want to feel pressured in that aspect, and I repeat, I know that those things would give it more "punch" and I try to "negotiate" with it in the first installments, but it is not "the soul" of what I do, and you can check it with Patreon or looking for me in Itch, this has a very low profile, if I get to do that and it is not accepted, then it would be twice as difficult to continue working (I do not know if I explain myself well in this).
Take note, I try to put H Scene when I see that it is possible, but respecting the work, with TESS I started to put more H Scene content apart from 0.3 because it gave the context.
If I wanted to do a more "NSFW" VN I would do something like Big Brother or Summertime, this is not "devaluing", on the contrary, I think this would inspire me to focus on something more "Hot", but, ironically, it bores me to do the renders for a story like this.
the winning formula is balance between porn scenes and story, i don't like big brother saga, hmm in summertime saga we have mystery of mc's dad - how he Die and why - at first i like this game cause there was story but now only hentai scenes were made
in gold middle is game called "now and then" (that pic which i posted is from there)
blood, filter and zombies doesn't look that scary if you must save someone you love
we living in those times which peoples have many their problems and want to Play in some lightheaded game to forget, even for a minute - that's why nice coloured games are loved
If you don't want to change style and add lewd scenes don't do it - no one forcing you
that thing you made with Tess was good - we know what to expect - we had nudity and we got more nudity
about LM- if you don't like to add h scenes just keep it in that way, just make this story more understandable to everyone
i didn't wanted to make you mad - just wanted to give you some advice
sorry if you felt bad
 
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[...] neither TESS nor LM have "the winning formula" on the contrary, it can be very boring because the H Scene is a long time coming, it's just that, I don't want to feel pressured in that aspect, and I repeat, I know that those things would give it more "punch" and I try to "negotiate" with it in the first installments, but it is not "the soul" of what I do [...]
If you have a vision of the story you wanna tell, you should stick with it. Because you can't please everyone and people have different tastes and opinions about pretty much everything.
You can try and compromise a little by making the core of story to your liking; while, based on the feedback from the player base, you can expand on some stories for different characters that are the most popular (e.g. side-stories, side-quests, etc.).

Games that heavily rely on the Lore to develop their story are always a bit more tricky to balance since they require some time and set-up for things to get going. But as long as the pace of the story is good with some h scenes now and then I think it should be fine.
There are tons of "harem-fap-games" around available for a quick playthrough and I understand why you don't want to lean in that direction, cause story-wise it wouldn't make much sense. From my experience, the players that enjoy good story are usually the most devout fans, who, of course, also enjoy that there are h scenes, but it's not the only reason why they play the game.
 
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the winning formula is balance between porn scenes and story, i don't like big brother saga, hmm in summertime saga we have mystery of mc's dad - how he Die and why - at first i like this game cause there was story but now only hentai scenes were made
in gold middle is game called "now and then" (that pic which i posted is from there)
blood, filter and zombies doesn't look that scary if you must save someone you love
we living in those times which peoples have many their problems and want to Play in some lightheaded game to forget, even for a minute - that's why nice coloured games are loved
If you don't want to change style and add lewd scenes don't do it - no one forcing you
that thing you made with Tess was good - we know what to expect - we had nudity and we got more nudity
about LM- if you don't like to add h scenes just keep it in that way, just make this story more understandable to everyone
i didn't wanted to make you mad - just wanted to give you some advice
sorry if you felt bad
Not at all! it's just that even using the translator you can't understand what I mean (or the tone).
TESS one of the quzias mistakes is that it demands a lot of exploration and from what I read I don't know if anyone has unlocked all the scenes, with LM I left that of "secret characters" as relevant as TESS was (that was a big mistake) and scenes that depended a lot on these last ones.
In the planning it was great, but in practice I felt sorry that almost nobody discovered it.
Part of the lore was left in the "infernal" gallery but, it's true that it doesn't feel like a real "codice" because it shouldn't be, that's why now in LM I'm working a lot on that section.
As for the NSFW, just bear with me, but (this is always announced in Itch, it is not "personal" with your post, on the contrary, I am grateful for the advice and that you have played the VN and commented).
I don't forget the +18 content, but if you go just for that, you will get bored, now the balance as you say, is fundamental, but I just say patience! let the story develop!
 

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If you have a vision of the story you wanna tell, you should stick with it. Because you can't please everyone and people have different tastes and opinions about pretty much everything.
You can try and compromise a little by making the core of story to your liking; while, based on the feedback from the player base, you can expand on some stories for different characters that are the most popular (e.g. side-stories, side-quests, etc.).

Games that heavily rely on the Lore to develop their story are always a bit more tricky to balance since they require some time and set-up for things to get going. But as long as the pace of the story is good with some h scenes now and then I think it should be fine.
There are tons of "harem-fap-games" around available for a quick playthrough and I understand why you don't want to lean in that direction, cause story-wise it wouldn't make much sense. From my experience, the players that enjoy good story are usually the most devout fans, who, of course, also enjoy that there are h scenes, but it's not the only reason why they play the game.
Exactly! and is that, that als H scenes, is "my mistake" sometimes as the story is planted, ie, when I go advanced (in the pre mature) I say "uh! hell, this way was not the best for H Scenes" but well I already have the story in my head, I also see it as a player, that's why in LM I added the surveillance cameras with that "Fan Service" and some other little thing, now, when I myself "find the way" of the VN for that will be easier, sometimes it's just waiting for some narrative event to allow me to do it.
 

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https://f95zone.to/tags/no-sexual-content/
add this tag to LM in future if sexual content is not planned (nudity but no sex scenes)
good luck Man (y)
Love MorteM, I didn't upload it here, it was someone else (and he hasn't updated it yet!).
LM is even going to have NTR route (quiet NTR haters! this route you have to make very precise steps and leads to one of the endings) as well as incest (which is optional), I estimate that from 0.3 there will be more H scene, now I'm with 0.2, and most likely it will have, but, the story is still developing.
 

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Sounds like the Dev feels this is wrapped up as much as it could be, given the issues they identified.

Let's call it Completed.
 

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anybody have a full gallery save?
Not free for now!

Maybe someone will make a mod or save a save (even though I left a guide so they could unlock everything, I think that andie got 100%) but I don't think so. I released this "Lust Series" which are all the lust gallery (leaving aside the infernal) + Bonus, but I put it at 2 dollars so that with the discounts I have something left! (at least I'm sincere!)
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