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Yes but thats later in the game...there are already before many cheating paths with Martin (Dad) and other guys
which u will miss until u get the chance with Walker. The earlier cheating scenes i can currently only get with Martin as the starter to turn Anne tu Faithfullness:false. Thats a pity... or i can use a mod...:)
 

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Fidelity points are also badly done. Anna fucks without her husband knowing. She doesn't get non-faithful status, but has faithful status all the time. It is a bit inconsistent. When a husband fucks without Anne's consent, he very quickly gets the status of unfaithfulness.
As far as the game is concerned there aren't really fidelity points. Only points to indicate the affection between the couple. If this number is too high, this closes the "off ramp" of choices that lead to unfaithful status. At least in the case of Anne. In MCs case, no matter how high the affection between the couple is he has the option to make choices that lead to unfaithful status. While these seem more numerous, it might be a case of exposure bias because they are openly presented to us. Most of them are early in the game before the couple have had the substantive conversation where Anne either shuts down communication because relationship points are too low or she asks if she needs to ask him before she has sex with somebody. To my recollection, this is shortly after the critical decision of whether or not to let Martin touch her ass. After this, it is fairly difficult for MC to get unfaithful status no matter who he fucks and Anne pretty much goes buck wild with impunity either way.

It is important also to realize that while we are not privy to Anne's thoughts is it clear that the couple are of a different mind when it comes to their partner sleeping with other people. MC actively wants it, with remarkably few exceptions, and it seems from her behavior Anne is more conflicted by the idea. A few times, she selects his partner because it seems she wants more control of the situation. In essence, she appears to be more worried about losing MC to another woman than her partner is concerned about her falling for someone else. In fact, this eventuality doesn't even occur to him until very late in the game. This leads me to believe that if there ever was an honest discussion of rules for their open marriage MC would present very few rules and Anne's would be more comprehensive, perhaps even unattainable. This may lead to even more people considering Anne unlikable, as this could easily come off as unfair, but in truth it is more unhealthy and leads to more resentment if you aren't honest with your SO regarding what makes you uncomfortable and unhappy.
 

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Yes but thats later in the game...there are already before many cheating paths with Martin (Dad) and other guys
which u will miss until u get the chance with Walker. The earlier cheating scenes i can currently only get with Martin as the starter to turn Anne tu Faithfullness:false. Thats a pity... or i can use a mod...:)
And my mod is broken, it doesn't show hidden stuff. Chapter fourteen ends very quickly. When Anna goes to bed and her husband says good night, the game does not load any scenes, only dialogues, and the game cannot find any scenes anyway.
 

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As far as the game is concerned there aren't really fidelity points. Only points to indicate the affection between the couple. If this number is too high, this closes the "off ramp" of choices that lead to unfaithful status. At least in the case of Anne. In MCs case, no matter how high the affection between the couple is he has the option to make choices that lead to unfaithful status. While these seem more numerous, it might be a case of exposure bias because they are openly presented to us. Most of them are early in the game before the couple have had the substantive conversation where Anne either shuts down communication because relationship points are too low or she asks if she needs to ask him before she has sex with somebody. To my recollection, this is shortly after the critical decision of whether or not to let Martin touch her ass. After this, it is fairly difficult for MC to get unfaithful status no matter who he fucks and Anne pretty much goes buck wild with impunity either way.

It is important also to realize that while we are not privy to Anne's thoughts is it clear that the couple are of a different mind when it comes to their partner sleeping with other people. MC actively wants it, with remarkably few exceptions, and it seems from her behavior Anne is more conflicted by the idea. A few times, she selects his partner because it seems she wants more control of the situation. In essence, she appears to be more worried about losing MC to another woman than her partner is concerned about her falling for someone else. In fact, this eventuality doesn't even occur to him until very late in the game. This leads me to believe that if there ever was an honest discussion of rules for their open marriage MC would present very few rules and Anne's would be more comprehensive, perhaps even unattainable. This may lead to even more people considering Anne unlikable, as this could easily come off as unfair, but in truth it is more unhealthy and leads to more resentment if you aren't honest with your SO regarding what makes you uncomfortable and unhappy.
maybe we should have full control over Anne?
 

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maybe we should have full control over Anne?
This is an interesting proposition, as the player is able to make decisions for her on occasion. However, this would defeat the purpose of having a relationship point system in the first place. Make it more for flavor. It would make it more like the game "A Couple's Duet of Love and Lust" where the wife is not, as yet, so reviled as is the case in this thread.
 

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This is an interesting proposition, as the player is able to make decisions for her on occasion. However, this would defeat the purpose of having a relationship point system in the first place. Make it more for flavor. It would make it more like the game "A Couple's Duet of Love and Lust" where the wife is not, as yet, so reviled as is the case in this thread.
Most of Anna don't like and find Anna very slutty and want a change?
 

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And my mod is broken, it doesn't show hidden stuff. Chapter fourteen ends very quickly. When Anna goes to bed and her husband says good night, the game does not load any scenes, only dialogues, and the game cannot find any scenes anyway.
This problem i also had...its better to download full game again without mod and then install updatet mod which is okay for latest game version.
If you have new game version and old Mod then it happens that the game ends at the point of old game version. I also had this problem and thought there were no additional scenes added in new game update....but it was the combination of latest game and old mod.
 
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As far as the game is concerned there aren't really fidelity points. Only points to indicate the affection between the couple. If this number is too high, this closes the "off ramp" of choices that lead to unfaithful status. At least in the case of Anne. In MCs case, no matter how high the affection between the couple is he has the option to make choices that lead to unfaithful status. While these seem more numerous, it might be a case of exposure bias because they are openly presented to us. Most of them are early in the game before the couple have had the substantive conversation where Anne either shuts down communication because relationship points are too low or she asks if she needs to ask him before she has sex with somebody. To my recollection, this is shortly after the critical decision of whether or not to let Martin touch her ass. After this, it is fairly difficult for MC to get unfaithful status no matter who he fucks and Anne pretty much goes buck wild with impunity either way.

It is important also to realize that while we are not privy to Anne's thoughts is it clear that the couple are of a different mind when it comes to their partner sleeping with other people. MC actively wants it, with remarkably few exceptions, and it seems from her behavior Anne is more conflicted by the idea. A few times, she selects his partner because it seems she wants more control of the situation. In essence, she appears to be more worried about losing MC to another woman than her partner is concerned about her falling for someone else. In fact, this eventuality doesn't even occur to him until very late in the game. This leads me to believe that if there ever was an honest discussion of rules for their open marriage MC would present very few rules and Anne's would be more comprehensive, perhaps even unattainable. This may lead to even more people considering Anne unlikable, as this could easily come off as unfair, but in truth it is more unhealthy and leads to more resentment if you aren't honest with your SO regarding what makes you uncomfortable and unhappy.
I can agree with many of your thoughts. The only thing in the gam what makes me angry is the fact that MC obviously has a red line which was the reason why he broke up with his college girlfriend Emma. And that was because she was sleeping with his father. And i dont get the logic why he should suddenly same scenario with Anny and evenbn worse turn into a fully cuckold.
It starts okay with the scene the beach where Martin touches her but later on in the shower if u want to stop them it turns into a forced script getting cuckold by his father. And even after that when u confront her in a talk she continues with cheating with Martin. And also if Emma tells MC that Anne and her are working for Martin there are not really any consequences.
It would be a fancy approach if you could get seperated from Anne and game continues witm MC and Chloe, Emma , Kelsey or any other LI. Of course MC can meet Anne and stalk her with Martin, Walker and others..and maybe later in game they fget together again somehow. But my wife gwtting fucked by my dad..this is really a NoGo...of course i would try it out in a second playthrough to get scenes but for the main path i would avoid it.
 
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I like the fact Anne finally took the collar off in chapter 14 and finally did what she wanted not what MC wanted and put MC in his place.
Where should this be? The saturday event? After the forced confession Reset i didnt notice any sort of rouge behavior of Anne anymore.
 

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Where should this be? The saturday event? After the forced confession Reset i didnt notice any sort of rouge behavior of Anne anymore.
at the club depending on the routes you take or if you use the Mod when the younger guys want Anne and the older guy starts talking the MC can either stay quiet or take charge if he stays quiet Anne hardcore cucks him she takes charge
 

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thanks to OP for uploading a fixed version. I did a new download and it worked without a hitch. im not far in tho. hoping for the best. the name issue has been fixed. looks good
 

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This problem i also had...its better to download full game again without mod and then install updatet mod which is okay for latest game version.
If you have new game version and old Mod then it happens that the game ends at the point of old game version. I also had this problem and thought there were no additional scenes added in new game update....but it was the combination of latest game and old mod.
And which mod should I install so that the game won't break again ?
 

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I don't think the complaints are about Anne being a slut. That is part of her charm! The major complaints seem to be that Anne is out of control. She screws anyone and everyone. (And depending on your path) She gets very angry at the MC if he attempts to say no to any of her behaviors, even when he is completely faithful. That bitchiness makes her very unlikable.

In an attempt to remedy people's hate for Anne, the developer made some retroactive changes to Anne's dialogue. Those changes made it so she wasn't so bitchy. One of the most notable changes was when the MC gets caught getting a blow job from Elena while on their first vacation. Presumably, Anne has been getting all the action (malls, dinner, Nicole, Ryan, Pizza guy x2, Airplane guy, Vacation waiter, Pool guys, and the Beach). Anne had just had sex with Cornell, Randall, and Will. And gives a blowjob to the bartender (Arran) at the pool. Before the update, Anne would get pissed off that you get the blowjob and she would flip you off and runs out to fuck Cornell. She ends up fucking the two guys she later falls in love with instead. After the update, Anne is happy for you and can't wait to hear about how you met Elena. She still goes off to fuck the two guys instead. She just isn't a complete bitch about you getting a blowjob.

I think what makes Anne so unlikable is how she responds when you tell her no, the fact that cheats with your best friend and dad, fucks everything that walks, and gets so angry at the MC — even with high relationship points. She is not much better after the update (she still does all those things) except she doesn't get as angry at the MC for getting some himself.

Later complaints are because the sex quickly becomes mundane and Anne is way too into the guys she is having sex with. This is way worse if you choose a path where Anne is with Ryan, Martin, and Dre.
 
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I don't think the complaints are about Anne being a slut. That is part of her charm! The major complaints seem to be that Anne is out of control. She screws anyone and everyone. (And depending on your path) She gets very angry at the MC if he attempts to say no to any of her behaviors, even when he is completely faithful. That bitchiness makes her very unlikable.

In an attempt to remedy people's hate for Anne, the developer made some retroactive changes to Anne's dialogue. Those changes made it so she wasn't so bitchy. One of the most notable changes was when the MC gets caught getting a blow job from Elena while on their first vacation. Presumably, Anne has been getting all the action (malls, dinner, Nicole, Ryan, Pizza guy x2, Airplane guy, Vacation waiter, Pool guys, and the Beach). Anne had just had sex with Cornell, Randall, and Will. And gives a blowjob to the bartender (Arran) at the pool. Before the update, Anne would get pissed off that you get the blowjob and she would flip you off and runs out to fuck Cornell. She ends up fucking the two guys she later falls in love with instead. After the update, Anne is happy for you and can't wait to hear about how you met Elena. She still goes off to fuck the two guys instead. She just isn't a complete bitch about you getting a blowjob.

I think what makes Anne so unlikable is how she responded when you tell her no, the fact that cheats with your best friend and dad, fucks everything that walks, and gets so angry at the MC — even with high relationship points. She is not much better after the update (she still does all those things) except she doesn't get as angry at the MC for getting some himself.

Later complaints are because the sex quickly becomes mundane and Anne is way too into the guys she is having sex with. This is way worse if you choose a path where Anne is with Ryan, Martin, and Dre.
So people want to have some form of control over Anne, just total control of who she's fucking with, and Sex can get bored sometime.
 

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Not to sound too cheesy, but a little plot with the porn would be nice! :ROFLMAO:

I think adding the option to not engage in an event would suffice. For example, just because I want Anne to be slutty or have a lot of sex does not mean I want her to have sex with everyone, every time — depending on my kinks. I do not enjoy seeing Anne do things with the old dude at the pool. It would be nice if I could skip it without hurting the stats. And that would also be in character. Anne mentions more than once that she doesn't always want to do something with a guy just because she finds them attractive.

I think a developer has to balance story and player choice. There are times when the story requires an event to occur even when the player doesn't necessarily want to do it. If I were to ask myself what events occur in this visual novel that propels the plot versus being just a fun sex scene... Well, the danger in asking that question is that there is very little plot in this visual novel!
 
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Not to sound too cheesy, but a little plot with the porn would be nice! :ROFLMAO:

I think adding the option to not engage in an event would suffice. For example, just because I want Anne to be slutty or have a lot of sex does not mean I want her to have sex with everyone, every time — depending on my kinks. I do not enjoy seeing Anne do things with the old dude at the pool. It would be nice if I could skip it without hurting the stats. And that would also be in character. Anne mentions more than once that she doesn't always want to do something with a guy just because she finds them attractive.

I think a developer has to balance story and player choice. There are times when the story requires an event to occur even when the player doesn't necessarily want to do it. If I were to ask myself what events occur in this visual novel that propels the plot versus being just a fun sex scene... Well, the danger in asking that question is that there is very little plot in this visual novel!
I hate that scene with the doctor and the receptionist and that young boy by the lake and when Anna teaches this young guy sexy.
 
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