Kame-Sennin

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The most sad thing is, that we’ve lost our freedom of choice. Me, and my MC both think that Nicole is ugly. Me, and my MC both rejected all her stupid proposals from the very beginning.

And now… whatever we do, whatever fixes we put, Ann says that… we fucked that ugly Nicole!!!
Is that so ? haha so does that mean we NTR lovers won this update ? Did Ann cheat already ? I thought that everything she did is with MC's consent so far ?
 
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kiteares

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but this also means more time spending on those routes and less time exploring what this game should be about.
This is a sentiment I can get behind.
I thought another (swing & miss), although kinetic, looked promising, but fear it's going to diverge down the NTR/cheating route.
Swinger family is another that holds promise, but there are a bunch of signals that it's going to go down the same way.
Would love to see a game that explores the mine field of actions and emotions that comes from fully bi-party consensual swinging, swapping and 3/4 somes.
 

LordofEntropy

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Is that so ? haha so does that mean we NTR lovers won this update ? Did Ann cheat already ? I thought that everything she did is with MC's consent so far ?
Well everything has been with consent. IF you choose the "Cheating" porn option (which the game does tell you "You're setting a path for Anne") then you do see the first, relatively minor cheating, but she does do it behind Tony's back and keeps it secret. If you do not choose the cheating video, she doesn't do it.

So I'm not really sure why some people seem to be freaking out like "OMG this was a swinger, exploration, now Anne is a cheater, this sucks!" You have to choose for her to go down that path as of yet. If you want only swinger/threesomes just select those options and not the big red button labelled "CHEATING"
 

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and im not really sure why some people dont seem to understand.
im not saying "OMG this sucks" but its not a good decision from the dev, as it will only take more time creating this game and also make the swinger theme weaker. its like creating a incest game and the only thing the dev is making is scenes with other characters. just think of DmD, if the dev where focused on D only, we would be quite ahead of the story. the point is to make a game and not get too frisky with the genres as it will only make the game more difficult to make and take more time, and each additional genre will weaken the other. why not make this game with a few genres and let the next game make exactly what "YOU" want, a cheating wife. because im sure, if we got a game with that in mind i will not say anything.
 
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dunloprobert

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so it takes longer to do? well if each update is a week long and and all tastes are catered for then how will it take longer to do? but if it does then i will not be upset because i know that the dev is catering for everyone and not just the selfish people!
 
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baka

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sure, go ahead, make the game with 100 fetishes with silly plots and weak story. but thats what most of you like anyway, when a dev is trying to make something of quality most of you complain as you just want tons of fucking right away. its futile to discuss with you, you dont try to understand my point, instead you just complain and want more and more and more instead of a quality game. thats also my point, this game is quite weak now and im starting to lose interests, theres no deep and no emotions. but go ahead, lets add more fetishes it will be great.
 
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torkenstiem

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I believe the game was already planned with cheating in mind since its in the tags, so nothing has been changed or added. Apparently its just in some peoples nature to bitch when theres no need in it.
 

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@baka That's the thing you're not alone here.. most of us we are some big perverts behind the screens and you can't please us all together. The dev gave us the options cheat or not, incest or not, swinger or not, interracial or not.. everyone should be pleased. A few of us would like to see her cheating, others they prefer to see the incest and others for story.
I'm here for the 3somes and I'm looking forward for the swinger path but I would like to see the cheating one too and I'm OK with the incest, actually I think I liked more the Incest path in the last update, didn't expected for that.

It will take longer, yeah, I'm OK with that getting less content on one path but actually it's the same amount of content all together.

Like GGGB.. that game should be already finished.. I have like 15+saves for that one, so many choices and the end of the day it's a great game and it's getting more complex with every new update. It's a mess in my save folder but I actually like it, don't see it as a bad thing.

In a few words:
More choices -> more content -> more players and maybe more patrons.

At least that's how I'm thinking about it.


//
Oh yeah one more thing..
The story it's great indeed, something new blah blah blah
But the writing skills or the dialogues.. fick me!, I'm getting a boner only by reading the script without pictures.
 

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This is a sentiment I can get behind.
I thought another (swing & miss), although kinetic, looked promising, but fear it's going to diverge down the NTR/cheating route.
Swinger family is another that holds promise, but there are a bunch of signals that it's going to go down the same way.
Would love to see a game that explores the mine field of actions and emotions that comes from fully bi-party consensual swinging, swapping and 3/4 somes.
Then maybe you should stay faithful and she might not NTR you?
 

kiteares

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"OMG this was a swinger, exploration, now Anne is a cheater, this sucks!"
Be interested to know where this is from?
Irrespective of which path is your preferred, the more paths either you will get less content per update or go several updates without content. The more each of these paths diverge the worse it gets.
We are all free to sound out our concerns and hope that @Mircom3D has a solid plan to bring all his work together.
Personally I don't see it as one fetish or another winning or losing, that suggests the dev changing their plan to suit one vocal group or other and I've seen how bad that can affect a game. It's just each of us wanting the best out of the game and tbh I don't know how quickly the errors would have been picked up on, reported and fixed if not for the people here willing to voice their thoughts and opinions.

Then maybe you should stay faithful and she might not NTR you?
Wrong end of the stick, I know about triggers and such, the conversation was about expectations, concerns, possibilities and what I would love to see. The great thing about Ren Py I can play 100's of paths if they are there, just save at each choice and move down that path.
Hopefully, I'll get what I want, but I would hate it if @Mircom3D changed the story to suit my or anyone's want's, it should be all about their vision.
BTW what you quoted was about other VN's, so Anne's going to have to go some to cheat into them...though I'm not sure I'd say no :p
 
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LordofEntropy

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Well considering there has been outside of sex with Tony, like 8 or more full on sex acts, that is penetration of some sort, involving Anne and like a dozen more acts of the lesser variety all with Tony either there or directly supporting Anne, and now just 1 minor sex act (if you chose the cheat path) I'm not sure what the complaint is, the content is still very much heavily weighted in the swinger, exploration together side of things.

Edit:

Be interested to know where this is from?
That was the general feel I have gotten from a few posts, wasn't any one in particular :)
 
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@baka That's the thing you're not alone here.. most of us we are some big perverts behind the screens and you can't please us all together. The dev gave us the options cheat or not, incest or not, swinger or not, interracial or not.. everyone should be pleased. A few of us would like to see her cheating, others they prefer to see the incest and others for story.
I'm here for the 3somes and I'm looking forward for the swinger path but I would like to see the cheating one too and I'm OK with the incest, actually I think I liked more the Incest path in the last update, didn't expected for that.

It will take longer, yeah, I'm OK with that getting less content on one path but actually it's the same amount of content all together.

Like GGGB.. that game should be already finished.. I have like 15+saves for that one, so many choices and the end of the day it's a great game and it's getting more complex with every new update. It's a mess in my save folder but I actually like it, don't see it as a bad thing.

In a few words:
More choices -> more content -> more players and maybe more patrons.

At least that's how I'm thinking about it.


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Oh yeah one more thing..
The story it's great indeed, something new blah blah blah
But the writing skills or the dialogues.. fick me!, I'm getting a boner only by reading the script without pictures.
Now that is an intelligent and business savvy post. Kudos.
 
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Cicero72

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I enjoyed the cheating path so far and look forward to more on the others. The variety is enjoyable and I hope not overwhelming for the dev. Perhaps you can kiss and make up with Anne in the cheating route, and try another, rather than tank the relationship, which I would prefer. I like drama and like to feel character emotion through words and actions, with a net positive conclusion.

The interracial choice is my least important. I like variety, interracial included (and it has been.) I'd be satisfied with either in a route.

I think Dre lost to Eric in Chapter 7. Perhaps there will be a comeback in 8.
 

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I'm not sure what the complaint is,
That was the general feel I have gotten from a few posts, wasn't any one in particular
I'm not sure there was a particular complaint or a OMG this sucks and I certainly don't feel that way. More a, I'm going to quote @Cicero72 here as they got my feelings in one sentence rather than 3 or 4 long arsed posts... "The variety is enjoyable and I hope not overwhelming for the dev."
 

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@Mircom3D I started a new game with chapter 7 since my old save was kinda broken from manual manipulations in the previous chapters and I would like to report some bugs:

- if you don't peep on Nicole and then take a shower in the morning, you get a dialog saying you are thinking about her body, a body that you didn't see
- during sex with Nicole at the old apartment her dialog is wrong a few times and your wife is speaking
- at line 7144 you do a check if nicole == 2: but at that point your Nicole score can already be 4 and looking at the rest of the code there, that should be a 4 in that equation.
- I went with Anne to the cinema and I got the wrong dialog saying she went alone on line 10587
- *MAJOR BUG* people starting a full new game should not be getting the questionnaire right before chapter 6 because it just doubles their current character scores. You should not have used += but just assignments as in eric = 2, but even better, you should do it like this so people starting a fresh new game don't get the questionnaire:
Code:
menu:
        "Watch Intro":
            jump v1intro
        "Skip Intro":
            jump v1monday
        "Skip to chapter 6":
            jump questionnaire

label questionnaire:
            ... <ask your questions here>...
            jump v7_monday

label v1intro:
...
...
...
Just to show how the questionnaire fucks some things up:
- on line 13795 and 13911, you do if eric == 2: but my eric score is 4 now and thus I never got the dialog with Erik talking about the naked pictures of Anne leading to the eventual sex
- on line 10981 you do a check if nicole == 4:, but my nicole score is now already 8
 
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