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Rico Caramba

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I played the game (if any yet) for a second time, paying more attention to the story. I liked it even better than the first time.

For starters, it amuses me that some people are turned off by the sluttyness of the daughter. Why is it, that so many players of porn games accept that a male protagonist fucks every girl he meets, but demand the girls to be monogamous? I will tell you a secret: in real life many girls are not monogamous, certainly not at this age. They want to experiment, just as much as boys do.

I do admit, this daughter takes sluttyness to a whole new level. There must be quite a few porn stars getting less sex than she does and not as kinky. But it seems that this attitude is necessary for the story. At the same time, it did not stop me from feeling sympathy for her. Her love for her father and the mourning for her mother are genuine. And it is pointed out that, ever since being a child, if she likes something, she just wants to do it over and over again. She just likes sex, a lot. So, don’t be too hard on her when she goes out and tries to have some fun. It is the first time since her mother died and her father actually encourages her to go out. From wat the daughter and het bestie (?) discuss, it is clear that they have been doing these wild things for at least a couple of years, so it’s a normal night out for them.

Aw, and she has just turned eighteen. In real life, she should get some serious therapy.

The father is actually a nice guy. He got into trouble by things beyond his control. He loves his daughter. He chose to give her a lot of freedom in stead of controlling her, what, I think, is a good thing. He is unaware of her wild escapades, and I believe that. No father should want to know of his daughter’s sex life. No daughter is ever going to be fully open about this to her father.

The fact that he takes his dick out when he sees his daughter and her BFF having ….. whatever, is a bit disturbing. But, for the sake of the story, some arousal is indispensable in his role. You might ignore the presence of the daughter and say that he is primary aroused by the girlfriend, who has earlier been teasing him so much. But whatever this depraved behaviour, his confusion feels real. On the one hand he hates it when he hears that his precious daughter is fucking the whole town. On the other hand, he does not want to hurt her, knowing what she has gone through lately, and he wants to respect her as a grown up. Difficult. Some things, you don’t want to know as a father.

Most disturbing, of course, is the role of the girlfriend, Stephany. What a wicked witch she is. I hope she will get remorse of her behaviour and makes up for it in the future. Because she is quite a dish. Or rather a small bite. That has been eaten before. Many, many times. Still, yummy.

In the opening scenes of the story you see the daughter and her father in what appears to be a film set. Like the developer wants to say: folks, this is not real. It is only a porn story. With attractive actors and actresses, a good script and decent acting. Just what real porn is missing.

Don’t take it too seriously.
 

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I played the game (if any yet) for a second time, paying more attention to the story. I liked it even better than the first time.

For starters, it amuses me that some people are turned off by the sluttyness of the daughter. Why is it, that so many players of porn games accept that a male protagonist fucks every girl he meets, but demand the girls to be monogamous? I will tell you a secret: in real life many girls are not monogamous, certainly not at this age. They want to experiment, just as much as boys do.

I do admit, this daughter takes sluttyness to a whole new level. There must be quite a few porn stars getting less sex than she does and not as kinky. But it seems that this attitude is necessary for the story. At the same time, it did not stop me from feeling sympathy for her. Her love for her father and the mourning for her mother are genuine. And it is pointed out that, ever since being a child, if she likes something, she just wants to do it over and over again. She just likes sex, a lot. So, don’t be too hard on her when she goes out and tries to have some fun. It is the first time since her mother died and her father actually encourages her to go out. From wat the daughter and het bestie (?) discuss, it is clear that they have been doing these wild things for at least a couple of years, so it’s a normal night out for them.

Aw, and she has just turned eighteen. In real life, she should get some serious therapy.

The father is actually a nice guy. He got into trouble by things beyond his control. He loves his daughter. He chose to give her a lot of freedom in stead of controlling her, what, I think, is a good thing. He is unaware of her wild escapades, and I believe that. No father should want to know of his daughter’s sex life. No daughter is ever going to be fully open about this to her father.

The fact that he takes his dick out when he sees his daughter and her BFF having ….. whatever, is a bit disturbing. But, for the sake of the story, some arousal is indispensable in his role. You might ignore the presence of the daughter and say that he is primary aroused by the girlfriend, who has earlier been teasing him so much. But whatever this depraved behaviour, his confusion feels real. On the one hand he hates it when he hears that his precious daughter is fucking the whole town. On the other hand, he does not want to hurt her, knowing what she has gone through lately, and he wants to respect her as a grown up. Difficult. Some things, you don’t want to know as a father.

Most disturbing, of course, is the role of the girlfriend, Stephany. What a wicked witch she is. I hope she will get remorse of her behaviour and makes up for it in the future. Because she is quite a dish. Or rather a small bite. That has been eaten before. Many, many times. Still, yummy.

In the opening scenes of the story you see the daughter and her father in what appears to be a film set. Like the developer wants to say: folks, this is not real. It is only a porn story. With attractive actors and actresses, a good script and decent acting. Just what real porn is missing.

Don’t take it too seriously.
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Thanks man, I didn't even know they existed.
Happy to help..Looks dope mate..I am on the watch for community service on this forum...untill my jobs starts..and then back to previous life!:LOL::LOL:..Till then your gonna see a lot of me!!:sneaky::sneaky:
 

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NTR is not possible in such circumstances. The daughter is a total slut, her father is perfectly fine to let her go and get drunk knowing how addicted to sex she is. The prologue hasn't developed MC's feeling of ownership over the "daughter" - he is ok with the fact she can go anytime anywhere and have a good bang.
 

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There is no "a" in "definitely". "Definite" becomes "definitely".

There is no "i" in "deluded".

No "e" on the end of "stomach".

Only 2 "a"s in "apparently".

"Gauge" not "gague".

You "accept" a proposition, you don't "except" one.

When Stephanie's riding the MC she uses his default name instead of the player's chosen name in the line "Ha! I was expecting more of a protest from you Thomas." (And there should be a comma after "you" in that sentence.)

Anyone old (like me) remember the movie "Something About Amelia" with Ted Danson, Glenn Close, and Roxana Zal?

Is it just me or does the MC look like a bit of a douche?

WARNING:
Excessive use of pet name!

Wasn't "Baby Doll," (well, OK, "Babydoll,") the delectable Emily Browning's character in "Sucker Punch"?

Why do I see a bald guy named "Mr. Magus" and read it every time as "Mr. Magoo"?

Easy to tell the dev's a Brit, using "arse" instead of "ass," "trousers" instead of "pants," and using "fanny" as a euphemism for "vagina" whereas on this side of the pond it's a more polite word for "ass".

I, for one, have no problem with the watersports as long as the MC's not on the receiving end or kissing one of the girls after she is.

Bizarre premise but certainly worth looking back in on. Graphics may not be the greatest but aren't bad and it's nice that the dev didn't just utilize the usual suspects for his models.

Good luck!
Got the spell check in Atom working, will help with all my "speelling" mistakes. I didn't realise I had so many. :cry:
 
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So is the NTR avoidable?
The NTR in the prologue is not avoidable. A page back the developer promised to put a 'skip' option in for the waterworks when the prologue is rewritten. Whether that will apply to the NTR portion has not been mentioned.

As for future NTR, who knows? But if the two main protagonists stick to their contract, I don't know how it would happen. However, developers always seem to have ways to implement things that don't necessarily conform to how I think games must play out.
 

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The NTR in the prologue is not avoidable. A page back the developer promised to put a 'skip' option in for the waterworks when the prologue is rewritten. Whether that will apply to the NTR portion has not been mentioned.

As for future NTR, who knows? But if the two main protagonists stick to their contract, I don't know how it would happen. However, developers always seem to have ways to implement things that don't necessarily conform to how I think games must play out.
Even if there's a skip button it still happens, instead you just don't see it. Not much better Imo. I guess I'll be skipping for now.
 

Walter Victor

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Even if there's a skip button it still happens, instead you just don't see it. Not much better Imo. I guess I'll be skipping for now.
I've had this kind of discussion before in another game. In most cases you are correct; the player just doesn't see the action that actually occurs. But there are other games where the choices completely change the game as far as NTR is concerned. And, while it occurs in the game, because it's written in, it doesn't occur either for the player or the NPC's if the player chooses otherwise. In other words, to have NTR or not exist in a particular playthrough or path is strictly up to the player. I have had a hard time getting that idea across to some people.

Of course, this argument is probably moot here, as I doubt if the developer actually envisions separate paths for this stuff. Just to keep it from our delicate senses; which is fine with me. I don't like to see it either.
 
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I've had this kind of discussion before in another game. In most cases you are correct; the player just doesn't see the action that actually occurs. But there are other games where the choices completely change the game as far as NTR is concerned. And, while it occurs in the game, because it's written in, it doesn't occur either for the player or the NPC's if the player chooses otherwise. In other words, to have NTR or not exist in a particular playthrough or path is strictly up to the player. I have had a hard time getting that idea across to some people.

Of course, this argument is probably moot here, as I doubt if the developer actually envisions separate paths for this stuff. Just to keep it from our delicate senses; which is fine with me. I don't like to see it either.
i think the only thing less satisfying then a skip button is the way "swinger family" handled it. try to avoid cheating/swinging options and the game continues on as if it happened. a skip button in the guise of a choice lol
 
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Rico Caramba

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....well can you? i mean you dont HAVE to talk to people do you? :LOL:
Yeah, but can you avoid them talking to you? They are all over the place, and those Parisiens can be rude, you know :ROFLMAO:.

Disclaimer: I really love Paris and the French people.
 

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Yeah, but can you avoid them talking to you? They are all over the place, and those Parisiens can be rude, you know :ROFLMAO:.

Disclaimer: I really love Paris and the French people.
i'll take your word for it i dont know jack about the french

Disclaimer: i dont know jack about the french... croissants are good though:sneaky:
 

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i'll take your word for it i dont know jack about the french

Disclaimer: i dont know jack about the french... croissants are good though:sneaky:
No, "Jack" is the Union on the other side of the Channel from the French. ;)

Remember, it apparently isn't NTR until & unless Dad and Daughter decide they wanna bone each other and one of them thinks they're exclusive. Until then it's just a poor guy putting-up with his slutty kid. At least that's my understanding of this shit.
 

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It is not clear to me what the exact definition of NTR is. I was not familiar with this term until I discovererd F95zone. But if you don't fancy the cute and lovely daughter of the MC (or even the female protagonist, for that matter) fucking everything with and without a dick, I suggest you try one of the zillion other games that don't offer this type of story.
 

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It is not clear to me what the exact definition of NTR is. I was not familiar with this term until I discovererd F95zone.
it gets confusing i hear theres a thread about that tag but i dont know. regarding NTR personally i prefer the Netori version rather then the Netorare version. hypocritical maybe? but who isnt at least a little in general?
 

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i think the only thing less satisfying then a skip button is the way "swinger family" handled it. try to avoid cheating/swinging options and the game continues on as if it happened. a skip button in the guise of a choice lol
Swinger Family! Hmm, haven't even looked at that in over a year. Don't remember much about it, and didn't make any saves or take any notes. So, I'll take your word for it. :cool:
 
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Remember, it apparently isn't NTR until & unless Dad and Daughter decide they wanna bone each other and one of them thinks they're exclusive. Until then it's just a poor guy putting-up with his slutty kid. At least that's my understanding of this shit.
That's my opinion as well.

On the other hand, one key to NTR is a feeling of jealousy. So if *you* feel jealous, then it could feel like NTR. Which is why consentual swinging / swapping is not NTR either.

But there are plenty threads about the definition of NTR in the General Discussion forum.
https://f95zone.to/search/13463248/...=1&c[child_nodes]=1&c[nodes][0]=9&o=relevance
 
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