JeefZ

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Then you need to wait for the next game update, which progresses the plot. The end of Season 1 update, next up, will provide 3 x missions/events for Gracie's arc, plus one for Luna & a Main Story update. See quote below, from johnelros, for details.

Small time robberies? Only the first contract contains these (+ a number of other encounters).
None of the next 4 contain "small time robberies". 2 of them are totally about Stealth, with no thefts at all. Delivery Boy is a bit of a joke, played by the sisters.
As far as "plot" goes, did you not play The Painter?
That contract has quite a deep plot, the story is quite moving.
Even Nimble Fingers has some background lore, relating to MC's Father. You need to have +4 Perception to get the encounter with the old man.


Has that changed since the WT was done?
The book for +1 Knowledge, you specifically had to buy that from the Market Trader, for $20, on the Nimble Fingers contract.
 

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Except for points the missions mean nothing in the game... (Luna does'nt know you saved a woman from being killed after it's overwith) What I meant was no body knows what you did!
 

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the missions mean nothing in the game... (Luna does'nt know you saved a woman from being killed after it's overwith) What I meant was no body knows what you did!
That's not necessary true.
Sure, Luna doesn't know about MC's D contracts because Hopes specifically said that main LIs will NOT be present in these contracts.
They'll only be present in contracts that happen during the main story (such as Ombra mission, which is a S+ ranked contract).

However, having said that, there's elements of things that happen in the contracts themselves that influence the main story itself.
For instance:

- characters such as Lelianna, Amita, Amata, contracts are the first time the MC interacts with these side LIs. If the player never went through the contracts, he wouldn't really know why Amita and Amata are more friendly with the MC. In Lelianna's case, her D contracts give more in depth as to the adventures MC had with her.
And the following hasn't happened yet, but the old retired Capo Vincent (who showed up in The Blizzard Princess event for Isabel) will also be present with the contracts (likely tutorial contract I'm guessing).

As to nobody knowing what MC did for the Painter contract, well, MC's current mind is to not bring too much attention to himself, so nobody knowing what he did actually fits with what he's trying to do in keeping low profile (until he breaks out of his shell of being a coward and decides to rise in ranks).
 

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Okay, my suspension of disbelief is done:
Luna can dodge the bullets, wtf?
lol the characters' combat skills are not supposed to be grounded in realism, if that's what you're trying to get at.
Dev has said before that in terms of characters' combat power, he wanted to give them really heightened fighting prowess like characters in anime (so in a way, superhuman reflexes, speed and power).

There's also several instances which show this such as:

- "Serpent" literally hitting Gottardo with tournament bullets from a really, really far distance despite Gottardo using Wilfred's Division members as human shields :LOL:
- Caterina roller skating around and finishing off a Fazio soldier in almost supersonic speed.
- Amata taking down several soldatos and elite soldatos in an instant by herself in the Ombra mission.

So if you're not keen on such aspect and want the combat to be realistic, well.....don't know what to tell ya to be honest other than to don't expect it from this game.
 

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Because that bastard Floaty can't keep a secret. Floating high above the ground he sees all.
Who's Floaty? I've seen that name mentioned several times here, but I can't recall which (if any) character went by that name in the VN.
 

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Except for points the missions mean nothing in the game... (Luna does'nt know you saved a woman from being killed after it's overwith) What I meant was no body knows what you did!
You said you wanted more main story, I told you you'll need to wait for the upcoming update as that's the end of Season 1, so will have a continuation of the main story, as well as an update for Luna's arc.
You complained about the contracts and said they were simply "small time robberies."
They are not.
As I said, only 1/5 contracts contains any small time robberies. The first one, the introductory one. Unsurprisingly.
You said you wanted "more plot, than mini-games", so I advised you to play The Painter, as it has a decent plot.

Now you want to change your complaint to be "Luna doesn't know about the contracts"?
Well, that's equally invalid. She blatantly knows about the rescue mission, for a start.
For the other 5, of course she doesn't. They're only D Rank, for Soldatos.
Luna is far higher up the rankings, than a lowly Soldato.
MC is getting special treatment, but he's nowhere near being at Luna's level in the hierarchy.

As for "they mean nothing in the game", yes they are self contained stories, but they absolutely do mean something in the game. They give us small bits of information which expand the overall lore of the world which Hopes has created.
I already explained that The Painter has a deep story, which gives greater depth to the mafia life of the families.
I also informed you that even Nimble Fingers has some lore about the MC's Father.
The Delivery Boy introduces sisters Amata & Amita, who you meet later in the rescue mission for Eiza's sister.
But you're right, these are clearly totally irrelevant to the game world and the story. Sure.

As for saving the woman and looking to Luna for some sort of validation, we've saved the same girl, multiple times.
I honestly didn't need a pat on the head, the first time. I did it for the money, the rep & to find out more about the game world.
I definitely did not need a pat on the head for any subsequent time of completing it.

You not liking them, is absolutely fine. You're entitled to your opinion.
Just don't invent spurious claims, that fall apart under the slightest scrutiny, when you post it.
 
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As to human limit, they are a part of reality sure, but.
It is only because of human social structure. As it is, they are few in between, be it the guy who can smell oil field from chopper, the girl who can use (adapted) bow up to 3 km without optics our of her eyes etc.
More common, there is the guy who live currently with 4x the fatal amount of mercury into his body.
Of course, it not like they no price or at last effects of such capacities.

Looking into it, poison, is a good basis.
As thing are, its more common than know, aka minute poisons adaptation. Such as given small qty to the kid such it can adapt and in time develop natural resistance. If not use these activities.

On another path, what about the peoples getting a car by hands while not that much prepared ?
There is a price quite steep, which can be subdued trough medics and physical, in done in time.
Such are based on instant, where it is seen, then decided to go through.
As to how, it's the non conscience part who manage these, active and passive drugs types (adrenaline, endorphins etc.).
These are mostly quite low as not that needed into every day, but trainings is possible.

What about family with history and resources, they are the best basis as to develop plants and fitness fitting high or even supra human capacity.
As thing are these natural capacity are present into the general segment (against family/island based reproduction) This as genes are gacha based, from those one have, a portion is used from birth, with others who will activate upon living.
Most will keep inactive until another generation.
But, in time and will there is no worry as to find common and rare genes who appear often enough, then conduct a region based trial process. It is not that explained into the game (how trained and efficient the guy are).
As the MC has no special (?) training (as he ?), his capacities are high naturally based.

Then, there is Luna story.
Why would these peoples do this ? That way.
It's a mix of process, elitism and age, all the girls are both of good pedigree and young.
This give quite an insight as to how it is handled.
BTW, if they are more women's are officers, it's no surprise.
At various levels, they have more options.

In time, there no surprise, only discovery and further understanding.
 

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lol I tried, but I'm afraid that I cannot make any sense of that.
Something about poison resistance & something about Luna's kidnapping, but beyond that, I'm stumped.
I have absolutely no idea what "getting a car by hand" is in relation to.
Not particularly clear what that is about plants and "supra humans", either.
Confused dot com. :unsure:
I read something about human limitations are just caused by society, not by actual limitations of the human body/mind. Which would not make much sense either.
 
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lol yeah, human mind is the primary limiter. Then the body.
Everyone's heard the story of a Mother lifting a car to save her child. She didn't become super human. She was always able to, with the right combination of adrenaline and sheer desperation & desire to use every ounce of her strength to save her child.

OK, now I'm upgrading from confused.com to baffled-r-us. :ROFLMAO:
I join you. If anyone have an idea could they throw me a bone? Or better the whole skeleton...
 
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I don't get it :unsure:
Here, I edited the pic so it would be easier.

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See the rock that I circled? Compare to all the other rocks in the scene.
Can you see now? :LOL:

This rock is called "Floaty" and he's the 5th Serpent :ROFLMAO:

p.s. Whichone, you beat me by a minute. Damn you!! :ROFLMAO::LOL:
 

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Motherfucker - I stared at that picture for like 3 minutes and finally gave up. Fucking obvious *SMH*
Well, I'm not surprised, he's in the camouflage mode.
Unless you stare intensively with piercing eyes that can see through his ability, you'll likely to miss him.

But that's what most dangerous about Floaty.
He fits in there naturally and strikes when ya least suspect it :LOL:.
 
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Motherfucker - I stared at that picture for like 3 minutes and finally gave up. Fucking obvious *SMH*
Well, I'm not surprised, he's in the camouflage mode.
Unless you stare intensively with piercing eyes that can see through his ability, you'll likely to miss him.

But that's what most dangerous about Floaty.
He fits in there naturally and strikes when ya least suspect it :LOL:.
lol Yeah man, Floaty's past Serpent level. He just drops down to do shit with those guys, for kicks.
 
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