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Also I asked when we will see the next public release, I never asked for a Patreon release.
Public and Patreon release questions are seen as the same. One leads to the other. Unless you meant when public release are released compared to the patreon release in general, then it's a fine of course. If so, I think this is more a misunderstanding due to language barriers.

There are 2 points, the first is simple no news or very little for months or even years
There is a big misconception that devs do not release updates as a way to milk patreon gains. I will not say that they do not exist, but it is very rare.
For someone to be able to milk from patreon means they already have a very high patron count. They can afford to lose many patrons per month while still having a high income.
This however only counts for a very, very few creators. Only the top 1% are capable of doing this.
For others, the loss of patrons and income is tough! No sane dev would watch the count go down and just be like "I wait till enough have fallen before I release". It is in fact the other way around. Due to fear of losing patrons, the non top 1% devs will release updates as fast as they can without quality control and a lot of content.

The truth for long updates can be a lot -

Real life stuff
Burnout
Not enough success so they be like meh
Too much focus on quality
And a myriad of other reasons.

For me personally, it is real life stuff and quality focus.
Fortunately, it is not burnout or any other of the game destroying traits.

It's simply real life stuff that gets in the way. This is after all not my main job. Secondly, I decided to do the season finale after just having done a rework. Very time-consuming.

Hope this brings a bit more light to the situation.


By the way, do you have some time to answer some questions?
Sure thing. Shoot.

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On an unrelated note - glad to see the community here being able to handle their disputes like adults without the need of a mod.
 

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On an unrelated note - glad to see the community here being able to handle their disputes like adults without the need of a mod.
But, but, ...

JJJ took the green cup for the juice he drank so I was left with the blue cup when he knew exactly that it was my turn with the green cup!!! Also, c3p0 is always making funny faces when you're not looking!!!
 

c3p0

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But, but, ...

JJJ took the green cup for the juice he drank so I was left with the blue cup when he knew exactly that it was my turn with the green cup!!! Also, c3p0 is always making funny faces when you're not looking!!!
Not true, so not true.:cautious:
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And C3po even forgot Joey when he did that update progression graphic!

Poor Joey. :coffee:
Sorry who?! Next thing you say is that this game actually have sex scene in it. Or that Floaty isn't in the next update...
Or that Wilfred secret is We're truely sorry about the future abscence of c3p0. We need to assure that he have a good understanding about the importance of the family. Yours faithfully Wilfred.
 

JJJ84

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Sure thing. Shoot.
1) Gracie wears Cynthia's "former" signature outfit for the beach prison event. Does that mean Cynthia changes her signature outfit often, adapting to say, modern fashion trends (compared to......well rest of the Serpents)?


2) I remember you saying previously that Cynthia has 2 disciples, one of them being Luna, and there is another one we do not know yet.
Will we get to find out Luna's relationship with not just Cynthia, but also with the other disciple (i.e. are they rivals/competitors? Or are they like sisters or something else)?


3) You've mentioned before that there will be a flashback scene in the future of how Wilfred met young Cordia.
So my question is, will we get to also find out how Cordia first met the current new Serpents? Even if we hypothetically assume that "Serpent" is Rina's former fiance (since that's the popular theory a lot of people believe in), and that relationship will pretty much be explored in the flashback regarding "tale of first generation of Serpents", that still leaves me to wonder how Cordia & Wilfred met Gottardo, Cynthia & the 4th Serpent.

Also, how and why (though I have a feeling that it's likely due to the shock and fear after Luna's kidnapping & Lucan's death) the 4 Serpents were formed again would be interesting to know.


4) (This might be a bit of dumb question, but oh what the heck I'll ask anyway since I can't help but be curious as a fan lol)

The feats of Serpents are legendary, and are whispered by many whether by the DeLucas, allies or foes.
Yet we haven't seen yet these current Serpents actually in action, getting into physical combat.

When the time comes when we see these Serpents fight whether a single Serpent or all 4 of them together (and I do hope we see the situation where as you've said before "shit really hits the fan" and all the 4 Serpents are together fighting as one, showing the 4 Serpents' true power), how would you distinguish or differentiate the portrayal of these Serpents powers, compared to say...... feats of say like..... Capos?

I ask because, the Capos, like Luna (heading head first into Fazio soliders in agility), Caterina (how she dispatched the Fazio soldier with her dance for "her lady"), and Amata (when she took initiative of the fight in the Ombra mission) already displayed quite a bit of superhuman-like feats, so for example what would definitively show what Cynthia is showing is definitely much higher tier than what Luna/Caterina/Amata (or any high level soldiers below Serpents) showed till now?

Increase in number of enemies? Enemies with much better skills? Serpent having a handicap (in the situation) yet still clearing the fight without breaking a sweat? Would love to hear your thoughts on it (that is, if you can share it).


5) Gracie not remembering due to black out about what happened in "The Woods" and everyone (Luna, Cordia, Wilfred etc) being quite hush-hush about it leaves me wondering, will that be a major event for Gracie for season 2?
Perhaps something a bit like what "My name is Luna" event did for Luna's character (though I guess with My name is Luna, difference is that it was a real milestone event)?


6) In "My name is Luna", MC says to Luna (after she tells her story) "I will try to ask around and see what I can find during contracts."
So, the question is, will there be a dedicated contract through Wilfred (just guessing here, but perhaps B or A contract?) where MC finds out some vital information about Luna's captivity by the Mysterious Six?

Or would something like this need to happen as one of the main story or main event (i.e. like Ombra mission), since it's concerning Luna, one of the main LIs (and because of the likelihood that Wilfred's A to E contracts are more of its own thing? Or,...on the other hand... would this be perhaps one of the few connective tissues which joins contracts & main game?)?


7) Oh, Cordia. Oh Cordia. How we all love you. Our dearest Donna's way of speech (slower and pauses between and middle of dialogues) have become just as iconic and legendary as the Blizzard Queen's beauty itself, and I love it.
So what was the creative reasoning behind this way of making Cordia's unique speech pattern? Also, is there a narrative reasoning behind it too (backstory to Cordia's childhood perhaps, which resulted in her speaking this way)?


8) Will we see more outlandish weapons used by the DeLucas (or even other factions like rival Families, or Mysterious 6, even though I guess they will be heavily towards DeLucas considering the Family's soldiers' eccentric reputation, heh) in season 2 or beyond?
Flail by Gottardo, roller skates by Caterina, they are so fun!
Personally would love to see a female character wielding a whip (or variation of it) of some kind, haha, but honestly all eccentric & outlandish weapons are totally welcome by me (think I remember you mentioning Cynthia will have a pretty unique weapon, which is niiiiiiice, and leaves me wondering whether we'll see some more Capos & Wilfred's gents with outlandish weapons too, heh)!


9) So something like this has never happened yet, and it's purely hypothetical question; how does natural line of succession of the 4 Serpents work?
You know, in case where one either retires (gets too old) or gets killed off (yeah, I know. Someone at a Serpent's level, it's almost impossible to think they'd be killed off and age would be just a number, but as said, hypothetical)?
Would Cordia & Wilfred appoint the next Serpent from candidates of Capos and Wilfred's Division (since they are considered pretty much same rank, just alternatives)?
And if so, would these Capos + Wilfred's gents need to be put through grueling tests to see who is the most worthy?


10) Regarding Gallery, would you be able to add in Render scenes from Wilfred's A ~ E Contracts in the Replay Room too? You know, scenes like MC's encounter with "the Bikini Lady" (i.e. wife of Bernero Family's Don), and our sister Amata doing naughty things thinking about our MC :sneaky:, and others in the future contracts also.
It would be very convenient if we can access them through the gallery.
 

Joey the mangaka

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1) Gracie wears Cynthia's "former" signature outfit for the beach prison event. Does that mean Cynthia changes her signature outfit often, adapting to say, modern fashion trends (compared to......well rest of the Serpents)?


2) I remember you saying previously that Cynthia has 2 disciples, one of them being Luna, and there is another one we do not know yet.
Will we get to find out Luna's relationship with not just Cynthia, but also with the other disciple (i.e. are they rivals/competitors? Or are they like sisters or something else)?


3) You've mentioned before that there will be a flashback scene in the future of how Wilfred met young Cordia.
So my question is, will we get to also find out how Cordia first met the current new Serpents? Even if we hypothetically assume that "Serpent" is Rina's former fiance (since that's the popular theory a lot of people believe in), and that relationship will pretty much be explored in the flashback regarding "tale of first generation of Serpents", that still leaves me to wonder how Cordia & Wilfred met Gottardo, Cynthia & the 4th Serpent.

Also, how and why (though I have a feeling that it's likely due to the shock and fear after Luna's kidnapping & Lucan's death) the 4 Serpents were formed again would be interesting to know.


4) (This might be a bit of dumb question, but oh what the heck I'll ask anyway since I can't help but be curious as a fan lol)

The feats of Serpents are legendary, and are whispered by many whether by the DeLucas, allies or foes.
Yet we haven't seen yet these current Serpents actually in action, getting into physical combat.

When the time comes when we see these Serpents fight whether a single Serpent or all 4 of them together (and I do hope we see the situation where as you've said before "shit really hits the fan" and all the 4 Serpents are together fighting as one, showing the 4 Serpents' true power), how would you distinguish or differentiate the portrayal of these Serpents powers, compared to say...... feats of say like..... Capos?

I ask because, the Capos, like Luna (heading head first into Fazio soliders in agility), Caterina (how she dispatched the Fazio soldier with her dance for "her lady"), and Amata (when she took initiative of the fight in the Ombra mission) already displayed quite a bit of superhuman-like feats, so for example what would definitively show what Cynthia is showing is definitely much higher tier than what Luna/Caterina/Amata (or any high level soldiers below Serpents) showed till now?

Increase in number of enemies? Enemies with much better skills? Serpent having a handicap (in the situation) yet still clearing the fight without breaking a sweat? Would love to hear your thoughts on it (that is, if you can share it).


5) Gracie not remembering due to black out about what happened in "The Woods" and everyone (Luna, Cordia, Wilfred etc) being quite hush-hush about it leaves me wondering, will that be a major event for Gracie for season 2?
Perhaps something a bit like what "My name is Luna" event did for Luna's character (though I guess with My name is Luna, difference is that it was a real milestone event)?


6) In "My name is Luna", MC says to Luna (after she tells her story) "I will try to ask around and see what I can find during contracts."
So, the question is, will there be a dedicated contract through Wilfred (just guessing here, but perhaps B or A contract?) where MC finds out some vital information about Luna's captivity by the Mysterious Six?

Or would something like this need to happen as one of the main story or main event (i.e. like Ombra mission), since it's concerning Luna, one of the main LIs (and because of the likelihood that Wilfred's A to E contracts are more of its own thing? Or,...on the other hand... would this be perhaps one of the few connective tissues which joins contracts & main game?)?


7) Oh, Cordia. Oh Cordia. How we all love you. Our dearest Donna's way of speech (slower and pauses between and middle of dialogues) have become just as iconic and legendary as the Blizzard Queen's beauty itself, and I love it.
So what was the creative reasoning behind this way of making Cordia's unique speech pattern? Also, is there a narrative reasoning behind it too (backstory to Cordia's childhood perhaps, which resulted in her speaking this way)?


8) Will we see more outlandish weapons used by the DeLucas (or even other factions like rival Families, or Mysterious 6, even though I guess they will be heavily towards DeLucas considering the Family's soldiers' eccentric reputation, heh) in season 2 or beyond?
Flail by Gottardo, roller skates by Caterina, they are so fun!
Personally would love to see a female character wielding a whip (or variation of it) of some kind, haha, but honestly all eccentric & outlandish weapons are totally welcome by me (think I remember you mentioning Cynthia will have a pretty unique weapon, which is niiiiiiice, and leaves me wondering whether we'll see some more Capos & Wilfred's gents with outlandish weapons too, heh)!


9) So something like this has never happened yet, and it's purely hypothetical question; how does natural line of succession of the 4 Serpents work?
You know, in case where one either retires (gets too old) or gets killed off (yeah, I know. Someone at a Serpent's level, it's almost impossible to think they'd be killed off and age would be just a number, but as said, hypothetical)?
Would Cordia & Wilfred appoint the next Serpent from candidates of Capos and Wilfred's Division (since they are considered pretty much same rank, just alternatives)?
And if so, would these Capos + Wilfred's gents need to be put through grueling tests to see who is the most worthy?


10) Regarding Gallery, would you be able to add in Render scenes from Wilfred's A ~ E Contracts in the Replay Room too? You know, scenes like MC's encounter with "the Bikini Lady" (i.e. wife of Bernero Family's Don), and our sister Amata doing naughty things thinking about our MC :sneaky:, and others in the future contracts also.
It would be very convenient if we can access them through the gallery.
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JJJ84

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Guys stay in the theme of the game
Yeah, better steer the thread back to discussion about the game, otherwise the thread is gonna get a thorough cleansing from the mods lol.

I was waiting for the VN mode....well...you know...my curiosity peaked...and then...this happened...
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"My name is Luna" event will pretty much explain why she is like that, with the emotional trauma and scars she has.

out of curiosity, two questions:

1- Is there any way to unlock Special renders in the gallery??

2- any news the next release?

Thanks
1) You unlock it as you play through Wilfred's Contracts (they're hidden in them, which you find). But currently, only way to do that is by playing the game through "Full Experience" mode. I don't think it's available in "Just Story + FreeRoam" mode (though I could be wrong, since I only play Full Exp mode with this game), and "VN Only" mode isn't implemented by the dev yet.
Dev did say he's gonna have these special renders available for other modes as well though.
Having said that, Full Experience mode will always come as priority, so if you're waiting for the VN modes (like some folks) you might be waiting a while.

2)

Use the search function above, and search for username "johnelros" in this thread.
You'll find the dev posts which will give you the answer.

Who is in coma?
Yeah .. like, why is MC not visiting his ma?
Is she in a coma?
How bad is it?
Can noone of the snakes (who move unseen and quick) or even the Donna visit her?
Why is MC not with her?
Is MC tied up in that villa with the mob family?
Anyone have some info they remember from the game?
Noone in the game is in a coma (from what's been told in-game till now).
Don't know where people are getting this idea from lol (unless it's from the off-topic talk from the preivous page, which I won't go further into [though even that seems unrelated]).

Reason why MC is not visiting his ma was explained (at least from MC's perspective) in the beginning of the game and here and there throughout the game's progression (through MC's talk, and behavior).

Regarding your other questions Canto, only part which can be answered is that MC is under the forced contract with the DeLucas (regarding your tied up with villa mob family question).
Others questions are "to be answered in game" territory.


To gently steer the thread to going back on-topic, let's show some appreciation once again for the lovely Scorpion Princess; Lady Siobhan! :love:
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