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About blueballing.
This is 100% bias, but I don't believe the game can be a blueballing game.
The way blue balling work is that the player plays a game and expect sexual encounters as the main goal. The developer then either give it quick or builds it up to create more arousal. And if the dev does it too long, it creates blue balling syndrome.
But even with heavy story games, it can be blue balling as the story revolves around a sexual theme.

However, with our game here. The story is non-sexual and the lewd is not the main focus. It's part of the game, but not what it is all revolved.
All the story sections are about attacking headquarters, finding out MC's background and the dead of traitors and a father killing his own son. Not much arousal in the main story part.
Even in the side quest which is the lewd part of the game, there contains a lot of stories that has nothing to do with lewd.
If you get blueballing during Luna's flashback, then there is something very wrong.

There is not enough 'constant' sexual arousal situations and focus for it to create blueballing.

Just the way I see it. But I am biased, that I won't deny, heh.
At the possible expense of getting awarded an eternal red Blasphemy tag under my avatar (The God Father is powerful) I think The Delucia Family is someplace in the middle. Even the most pious when confronted with attraction to his or her eventual wife/husband wither during long engagements. While Delucia is not a blue balling game it is not entirely void of sexual frustration. Delucia is in a "Grey" area, dare I say Greyball? Regardless maybe we can accept a slight purpleballing when the prize is well worth it as is the case of The Delucia Family.
 
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About the dispassion stat - still not 100% on how it will be yet. Honestly, I may even remove it. Nothing for sure yet.
But the plan is still to have it as in the in-game description. Just remember that it is called dispassion and not morality.
Well I still remember when it was called morality. We even had a nice debate about it in the thread, and you totally ignored all of my wonderful suggestions for a name change. :cry:

FYI DeLucaness was favorite.

Your observation is more or less correct, the "morality" measures adherence to "family values", if you could call them that, so higher morality means "more mafia man", lower means "normal guy with a conscience". As for the specific importance of that stat, we'll have to see.
Correct although you'd think it would be the other way around. Having no problem killing someone gives you higher morality seems odd to me. As far as how it matters in the game, it seems like it just has to do with your characters personality. I don't think it makes a big difference for the story or other characters. I haven't seen anything that requires you to have high or low morality to be able to do something. So don't worry about it to much and just make the decisions you think are right.
It really could do with a different name if you ask me. Not sure exactly what would fit best, you could possibly call it 'Omerta' but that doesn't really fit exactly. It would eliminate all confusion due to it literally not being what it's named though.
Yeah I don't know what else you could call it either that would work, Loyalty, Honor, Omerta, Delucaness, or Family points. None are a perfect fit, but I suppose it doesn't really make much of a difference as it doesn't appear to affect the game much.
Family Values lol

Loyalty would be good. (y)
See I can dig stuff up too JJJ84. :LOL:

What? Sacrilege! Where is the inquisition? Burn him at the stakes.
Well excuse me for suggesting The DeLuca Encyclopedia might not have been 100% accurate on that. Here JJJ84 take your crown.
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JJJ84

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About the dispassion stat - still not 100% on how it will be yet. Honestly, I may even remove it. Nothing for sure yet.
But the plan is still to have it as in the in-game description. Just remember that it is called dispassion and not morality.

About blueballing.
This is 100% bias, but I don't believe the game can be a blueballing game.
The way blue balling work is that the player plays a game and expect sexual encounters as the main goal. The developer then either give it quick or builds it up to create more arousal. And if the dev does it too long, it creates blue balling syndrome.
But even with heavy story games, it can be blue balling as the story revolves around a sexual theme.

However, with our game here. The story is non-sexual and the lewd is not the main focus. It's part of the game, but not what it is all revolved.
All the story sections are about attacking headquarters, finding out MC's background and the dead of traitors and a father killing his own son. Not much arousal in the main story part.
Even in the side quest which is the lewd part of the game, there contains a lot of stories that has nothing to do with lewd.
If you get blueballing during Luna's flashback, then there is something very wrong.

There is not enough 'constant' sexual arousal situations and focus for it to create blueballing.

Just the way I see it. But I am biased, that I won't deny, heh.
Hey Hopes,
I hope you're feeling/getting better from the Covid.

Been a while since I last had some question for ya Hopes, but here's some (most likely won't have any more until the update releases, but who knows. Never say never, heh):

1) I know you said that it would be rare to see Serpents together in battles, but do Serpents sometimes hang out together when not working, i.e. when chilling out (perhaps something like that Gottardo & "Serpent" playing poker with Floaty render)?

For instance, Gottardo says to MC, Luna & Gracie (in the beach house event) that "Some of the other Serpents and higher ups were having their doubts (about MC) because you know DNA and all that bullshit stuff, but not me! I knew he (MC) was different"
Seems like a sort of discussion that Gottardo might have when he's having time off with the other Serpents.


2) So from Dominico's introduction in the game's opening, it seems pretty clear he's been set up to be MC's rival. Without giving spoilers, how much from within the game will be actually delve into Dom's character?


3) When Caterina mentions in Ombra mission "Quasi-Capo", that he's an Elite Soldato who's next in line to be a Capo, MC says "Like Pelata & the guys (Biondo, Gray)?" which Caterina says Yes.

So that would mean Pelata, Biondo & Gray are all next in line to be Capos, but where would that leave Joey? Is he also in the same boat as Pelata/Biondo/Gray, or does he still have a bit of a way to go until then?

I'm asking this because with both DeLuca & Ombra Families, Elite Soldatos who are getting close to Capo promotion don't seem to be wearing any official uniforms (like Soldatos do, with Pelata & the guys, same with Ombra Quasi-Capo).

Ombra Elite Soldatos' uniform seems to be almost identical to DeLuca Soldato uniform in design (except for being dark and the Family's Scorpion symbol), so I'm inclined to think that DeLucas' Elite Soldato uniform is almost same (if not exactly same) when a Soldato first gets promoted to Elite.

There's been no mention of Joey being close to promotion (unlike Pelata and the guys), yet he dresses differently like everyone in Quasi-Capo situation, so it does make me wonder what position Joey is in exactly.


4) So you've previously said that while main girls (Luna, Gracie, Isabel, Cordia) will not be appearing in the contracts, at least some (if not all) of the side girls, their chance of appearing in these contracts are very high.

We already have Amita, Amata the nun sisters, Lelianna, and Alexa in the first set of contracts.
Can you share names of any other side girls who are candidates to appear in the future contracts (as a tease for things to come), or would revealing their names be considered too spoilery (for e.g. character like Eiza, is it possible for someone like her to appear in contracts even if she already would be working for a different Capo as stated by Cordia)?


5) Eiza's little sister Fina, are there any plans for her to play more part in (any of) future stories, or is her role in the game done with the conclusion of the Ombra mission?


6) Capos (Angelo, Caterina) have been trying to get MC to join their crew in a hilarious way, but will this whole "which crew will MC join" question be addressed (and there be a payoff) in season 2?
If the choice is given, might lead to a bit of branching paths (Angelo's crew path, Caterina crew path), but it could be interesting.

Actually, I know Luna has always been a solo-Capo till now (since it seems she sort of seems to like it that way and noone is crazy enough to join her crew even if she wants a crew), but it would be pretty cool to have a choice where MC can say "You know what? Luna's a Capo, so I'll join her crew." Surprising, Cordia, Wilfred, all the Capos, and of course Luna herself.


7) I love Amita and Amata, the nun sisters and their religious habits, but will we ever get a situation where we see the sisters out of their religious habits and in casual clothes (for e.g. undercover, or any other specific purpose)?


8) When a side character turns out to be more popular than expected (for instance, Onorina, I remember you saying her popularity has been rising since the Ombra event), where do you prefer to increase their content? Include them more in the main story, or add in/increase their contracts content? Or is it both?


9) Something that has been discussed couple of times before in the thread.
In terms of rivals, with MC, he has Dominico (and possibly Ombra Quasi-Capo, that is if he counts as one), and Luna has Apce (whom you said will make a comeback in the future).

With Gracie (who will start to work for the Family from season 2 onwards), will she have any rivals from outside the Family, who is either of same or close to her age, but is able to match her intelligence?

So far, with plans Gracie thought of (such as foiling Straffan's ambush plans for Antonio and DeLuca soldiers) went without a hitch, but it would be interesting to see Gracie be challenged intellectually by a rival, struggle or even lose a battle of wits in some cases (she thinks noone other than Wilfred is intelligent than her, so having her fall from initial battle with her rival, but getting back up with help of MC, Luna and her Family might be an interesting arc to explore for her).


10) I know Eiza doesn't show a lot of strong emotions (such as anger) with her expressions but given she was forced to work for Ombras due to her sister being a hostage, how strong is her animosity towards the Ombras?

For instance, with MC and Siobhan starting their interaction with Ombra event, if she saw MC & Siobhan meet (their second meet) while keeping an eye out for her Unofficial Boss, will she be angry (and be really holding a grudge) towards Siobhan, daughter of the Family who ruined her Family, that MC might need to hold her back?


11) With Frenetico Games, like the athletes who train for Olympic games, will we get some events where MC (and other DeLuca participants) training for these games?
If that's to be considered, could we please have some combat training sessions between MC & Luna as part of it (striking yes, but lots of wrestling & jiujitsu, where MC & Luna tumble over each other, which I'd expect there to be hilarious yet lewd situations, heh.


12) I'm guessing the answer to this question will likely be "No", but I'll ask anyway.
Will there be any point in time where the game takes place outside of Lucania?
I mean, yes, given MC's situation, all events for him I'm guessing would likely be taking place in Lucania, but even if it's not from MC's perspective, I do wonder whether we'll see characters in situations outside Lucania.

For example, "Serpent" gets asked by Cordia (when he comes to Cordia's office and meets MC for "first" time in the game) "How long will you stay at Lucania?" which he replies "Not long." (felt like he was sort of implying he does some stuff outside Lucania)

So I do wonder whether we'll see any Serpents or others doing a job outside Lucania in the game.
 

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I really enjoy this game, except that every decision to kill is only based on morality and not strategy. Surely not killing someone who is in your custody and at your mercy could have some solid strategic or intelligence advantage, but sadly the only interpretation is that your must be soft.
 

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Hey Hopes,
I hope you're feeling/getting better from the Covid.

Been a while since I last had some question for ya Hopes, but here's some (most likely won't have any more until the update releases, but who knows. Never say never, heh):

1) I know you said that it would be rare to see Serpents together in battles, but do Serpents sometimes hang out together when not working, i.e. when chilling out (perhaps something like that Gottardo & "Serpent" playing poker with Floaty render)?

For instance, Gottardo says to MC, Luna & Gracie (in the beach house event) that "Some of the other Serpents and higher ups were having their doubts (about MC) because you know DNA and all that bullshit stuff, but not me! I knew he (MC) was different"
Seems like a sort of discussion that Gottardo might have when he's having time off with the other Serpents.


2) So from Dominico's introduction in the game's opening, it seems pretty clear he's been set up to be MC's rival. Without giving spoilers, how much from within the game will be actually delve into Dom's character?


3) When Caterina mentions in Ombra mission "Quasi-Capo", that he's an Elite Soldato who's next in line to be a Capo, MC says "Like Pelata & the guys (Biondo, Gray)?" which Caterina says Yes.

So that would mean Pelata, Biondo & Gray are all next in line to be Capos, but where would that leave Joey? Is he also in the same boat as Pelata/Biondo/Gray, or does he still have a bit of a way to go until then?

I'm asking this because with both DeLuca & Ombra Families, Elite Soldatos who are getting close to Capo promotion don't seem to be wearing any official uniforms (like Soldatos do, with Pelata & the guys, same with Ombra Quasi-Capo).

Ombra Elite Soldatos' uniform seems to be almost identical to DeLuca Soldato uniform in design (except for being dark and the Family's Scorpion symbol), so I'm inclined to think that DeLucas' Elite Soldato uniform is almost same (if not exactly same) when a Soldato first gets promoted to Elite.

There's been no mention of Joey being close to promotion (unlike Pelata and the guys), yet he dresses differently like everyone in Quasi-Capo situation, so it does make me wonder what position Joey is in exactly.


4) So you've previously said that while main girls (Luna, Gracie, Isabel, Cordia) will not be appearing in the contracts, at least some (if not all) of the side girls, their chance of appearing in these contracts are very high.

We already have Amita, Amata the nun sisters, Lelianna, and Alexa in the first set of contracts.
Can you share names of any other side girls who are candidates to appear in the future contracts (as a tease for things to come), or would revealing their names be considered too spoilery (for e.g. character like Eiza, is it possible for someone like her to appear in contracts even if she already would be working for a different Capo as stated by Cordia)?


5) Eiza's little sister Fina, are there any plans for her to play more part in (any of) future stories, or is her role in the game done with the conclusion of the Ombra mission?


6) Capos (Angelo, Caterina) have been trying to get MC to join their crew in a hilarious way, but will this whole "which crew will MC join" question be addressed (and there be a payoff) in season 2?
If the choice is given, might lead to a bit of branching paths (Angelo's crew path, Caterina crew path), but it could be interesting.

Actually, I know Luna has always been a solo-Capo till now (since it seems she sort of seems to like it that way and noone is crazy enough to join her crew even if she wants a crew), but it would be pretty cool to have a choice where MC can say "You know what? Luna's a Capo, so I'll join her crew." Surprising, Cordia, Wilfred, all the Capos, and of course Luna herself.


7) I love Amita and Amata, the nun sisters and their religious habits, but will we ever get a situation where we see the sisters out of their religious habits and in casual clothes (for e.g. undercover, or any other specific purpose)?


8) When a side character turns out to be more popular than expected (for instance, Onorina, I remember you saying her popularity has been rising since the Ombra event), where do you prefer to increase their content? Include them more in the main story, or add in/increase their contracts content? Or is it both?


9) Something that has been discussed couple of times before in the thread.
In terms of rivals, with MC, he has Dominico (and possibly Ombra Quasi-Capo, that is if he counts as one), and Luna has Apce (whom you said will make a comeback in the future).

With Gracie (who will start to work for the Family from season 2 onwards), will she have any rivals from outside the Family, who is either of same or close to her age, but is able to match her intelligence?

So far, with plans Gracie thought of (such as foiling Straffan's ambush plans for Antonio and DeLuca soldiers) went without a hitch, but it would be interesting to see Gracie be challenged intellectually by a rival, struggle or even lose a battle of wits in some cases (she thinks noone other than Wilfred is intelligent than her, so having her fall from initial battle with her rival, but getting back up with help of MC, Luna and her Family might be an interesting arc to explore for her).


10) I know Eiza doesn't show a lot of strong emotions (such as anger) with her expressions but given she was forced to work for Ombras due to her sister being a hostage, how strong is her animosity towards the Ombras?

For instance, with MC and Siobhan starting their interaction with Ombra event, if she saw MC & Siobhan meet (their second meet) while keeping an eye out for her Unofficial Boss, will she be angry (and be really holding a grudge) towards Siobhan, daughter of the Family who ruined her Family, that MC might need to hold her back?


11) With Frenetico Games, like the athletes who train for Olympic games, will we get some events where MC (and other DeLuca participants) training for these games?
If that's to be considered, could we please have some combat training sessions between MC & Luna as part of it (striking yes, but lots of wrestling & jiujitsu, where MC & Luna tumble over each other, which I'd expect there to be hilarious yet lewd situations, heh.


12) I'm guessing the answer to this question will likely be "No", but I'll ask anyway.
Will there be any point in time where the game takes place outside of Lucania?
I mean, yes, given MC's situation, all events for him I'm guessing would likely be taking place in Lucania, but even if it's not from MC's perspective, I do wonder whether we'll see characters in situations outside Lucania.

For example, "Serpent" gets asked by Cordia (when he comes to Cordia's office and meets MC for "first" time in the game) "How long will you stay at Lucania?" which he replies "Not long." (felt like he was sort of implying he does some stuff outside Lucania)

So I do wonder whether we'll see any Serpents or others doing a job outside Lucania in the game.
I am sure that all of traces from covid virus was killed for good from Hopes system after the Deluca's-Encyclopedia-Machine-gun-questionator JJJ84 actions. Is he a capo, too? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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I have to disagree, don't remember much about Melody, but his last game has a lot of sex scenes.
Yeah, in Summertime Love you get your fiancé in bed extremely early, you have dad's flashback, and the taco salesgirl (Victoria?) also isn't too shy.

Melody has your childhood's friend's sister even before you move, other characters make a move quickly as well (Sophia, Xianne - Melody's friends), again others take a while, specifically the "main goal" Melody of course, but I like if not everybody is at the same pace.

DMD may have more but I only remember the latter part where you have to click through 2 sex scenes to finally get the story to move again.

All in all, he's certainly not the king of anything.
 
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What? Sacrilege! Where is the inquisition? Burn him at the stakes.



Actually, in reviews or forum comments stuff like "too much grind" and "blueballing" are a kind of a seal of quality to me. Yes, there can be too much of both, I've seen it with my own eyes, but usually it is applied pretty freely and just means "there is a build up, you won't fuck with every girl longing for your magic dick the first time you see her but actually have to get to know her first".
Haven't played either of the games in the competition so I have no idea the extent of the whole "blueballing" tbh.
But I do remember how Rebirth thread sometimes used to be plagued with with the whole "blueballing" remarks and trolling, that is until things started off with Carmen, and now Callisto.

Granted, with DeLuca, so far for season 1, we will only have Eiza (a side girl) who does full (penetration) sex, and rest being orals (Isabel, Amita) & teases, but honestly?
Some will obviously moan and complain saying "Give us the sex already!" but for me, the pace that Hopes sets with DeLuca I feel is natural.

Don't know when the sex will start coming (whether it will be season 2, or season 3), but the story is enough to keep me engaged and make me even forget about the sex most of the times, and sexual teases as well as the buildups that exist right now are I should say are pretty sufficient.
And when the sex comes it will be even better, cause sex floodgates would be open, but knowing Hopes style, he's not gonna drop the ball on the story (well I have faith he won't).
Yes there are time that some games get labeled "blue balling" when its actually a natural buildup. When the story is as good as The Deluca Family then natural build up is actually good even when its this slow. Cause the story and world building is what carries this game not the sex. That is what makes this game good. Lewd scenes give it an extra flare and spice. I'm sure all of The Deluca Family agrees. Well besides Vidal the King of Pervert. He would say its Luna that carries this game, but I see it as she is one of many who carries this game. Everything in this game fits. From characters to the world building, to character builder to the lore itself and yes even the pacing fits perfectly. Everything says the buildup and what is well worth it. Those who whine otherwise are Filiuses without any sense in their noggin.
 
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About the dispassion stat - still not 100% on how it will be yet. Honestly, I may even remove it. Nothing for sure yet.
But the plan is still to have it as in the in-game description. Just remember that it is called dispassion and not morality.

About blueballing.
This is 100% bias, but I don't believe the game can be a blueballing game.
The way blue balling work is that the player plays a game and expect sexual encounters as the main goal. The developer then either give it quick or builds it up to create more arousal. And if the dev does it too long, it creates blue balling syndrome.
But even with heavy story games, it can be blue balling as the story revolves around a sexual theme.

However, with our game here. The story is non-sexual and the lewd is not the main focus. It's part of the game, but not what it is all revolved.
All the story sections are about attacking headquarters, finding out MC's background and the dead of traitors and a father killing his own son. Not much arousal in the main story part.
Even in the side quest which is the lewd part of the game, there contains a lot of stories that has nothing to do with lewd.
If you get blueballing during Luna's flashback, then there is something very wrong.

There is not enough 'constant' sexual arousal situations and focus for it to create blueballing.

Just the way I see it. But I am biased, that I won't deny, heh.
Completely agree. That is why I have been saying this game is not about the lewd Scences, but the story, lore and world building. Everything has been natural and flows like a river. Constant and smooth/even.
 
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Looks like people getting a "slow burn" cause they can't help but project their feelings instead of looking at the story and trying to see what the developer/writer is trying to tell and show you through THEIR art. By projecting our own feelings we miss the beauty of the art that is right in front of us. Sadly this is also the reason why marriages and relationships "sometimes" ends badly. To much projecting, not enough understanding.
 
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Hi guys !
Question about the next update. What is the best choice, keeping the save from 7.02 or play a new restart ?
I' don't see info about save compatibility, restart is not a problem for me ( just skip the poor Luna child past, very well writing, but...really sad moment)
 
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