Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[Lorenz1]

It still hadn't been updated? In almost a year? Imao

And I thought Ocean takes long with his work.

 

[slayer991]

It still hadn't been updated? In almost a year? Imao

And I thought Ocean takes long with his work.

OceanLabs did that to himself. He had a great story and decided to rework it anyway along with starting another project. As a result, I'm not going to bother playing Where It All Began again until it's complete.

As to this game? I'm not a patreon so I have no idea where it's at in the development cycle. This does illustrate why I generally don't sub games in-progress. I do one-time donations when complete.

 

[Thrill'n Flares]

It still hadn't been updated? In almost a year? Imao

And I thought Ocean takes long with his work.

Dude you are either a troll or one who neither knows how to get information nor actually logically thinks. Either try to find out what the hell is going with dev, which is easy as pie, or just ask instead laughing like self centered prick. He was planning on this coming update being the season finale. Which is why it had been taken so long. Then got covid. Also since the first season is about finished he is trying figure out in what form the game will be in steam. Also this is not his job, but his hobby. Once he gets the game on steam he will be a full time dev. So stop shitting your britches. When it comes to Ocean...Do you mean Oceanlab? Oceanlab has two games to work on and one them was remade. So yeah... You are shitting your britches to much and comparing apples to oranges.

 

[c3p0]

Once he gets the game on steam he will be a full time dev.

I didn't see this before. It this really hopes statement?

 

[Meushi]

I didn't see this before. It this really hopes statement?

Until I work on this full time, expect the unexpected in the development.
We're getting closer to the time I can work on this full time, but that depends on how it all goes with steam release and other stuff behind the curtains.

 

[c3p0]

Meushi thank you.
This is more along with what I have in my head. It is a possibility, perhaps one with a high chance, but not that certain yet.

 

[Rovenant]

I just want to say (and sorry for my bad english) that i love you all. You are an amazing community that really support the devs and value their hard work.

I feel really lucky to be able to play this amazing game. Its in my top 5 fav VN. Im proud of this community and mods, so i wanted to say thank you all for every supportive word you write here every day.

 

[Lorenz1]

Oceanlab has two games to work on and one them was remade.

And still delivered three updates in the same timespan. Your point is?

Regardless of the reasons, excuses and "season 1 is over, we go to steam - who cares?", this game was not updated in almost a year. And this is a fact.

I am simply surprised that there are people who even remember that this game still exists at this point.

 

[slayer991]

Dude you are either a troll or one who neither knows how to get information nor actually logically thinks. Either try to find out what the hell is going with dev, which is easy as pie, or just ask instead laughing like self centered prick. He was planning on this coming update being the season finale. Which is why it had been taken so long. Then got covid. Also since the first season is about finished he is trying figure out in what form the game will be in steam. Also this is not his job, but his hobby. Once he gets the game on steam he will be a full time dev. So stop shitting your britches. When it comes to Ocean...Do you mean Oceanlab? Oceanlab has two games to work on and one them was remade. So yeah... You are shitting your britches to much and comparing apples to oranges.

Thanks for the update. I wasn't really worried about it like so many others...not worth it.

 

[slayer991]

And still delivered three updates in the same timespan. Your point is?

Regardless of the reasons, excuses and "season 1 is over, we go to steam - who cares?", this game was not updated in almost a year. And this is a fact.

I am simply surprised that there are people who even remember that this game still exists at this point.

It's fair to criticize the long development time. What I don't understand is people getting upset over it. Unless an individual is a Patron, they have no real investment other than their time. You're a patron and you don't like how long it's taking? Cancel the sub for that Patreon. It's pretty simple.

The problem for most is that this is such a good game that everyone wants new content yesterday.

 

[HopesGaming]

Agreed.
I've said many times that I can understand people's frustrations.
Even though I've said many times that this is a hobby and development times are not as steady as it would be a 'real' adult creator, it is understandably when people can get a bit frustrated due to something they enjoy is taking longer than expected.

But once it goes into a more demanding style of tone or the talks about 'no excuses', well it is then I kinda raise my eyebrows a bit and say relax and take a break.

Read somewhere about being patron, or it's okay to talk a certain way due to being a patron.
I've always said this and will it again - being a patron does not justify foul behavior. Be it towards me or non patrons.

 

[WhiteyG]

And still delivered three updates in the same timespan. Your point is?

Regardless of the reasons, excuses and "season 1 is over, we go to steam - who cares?", this game was not updated in almost a year. And this is a fact.

I am simply surprised that there are people who even remember that this game still exists at this point.

Yeah nobody ever posts in this thread, we never see the developer, and haven't gotten any news about the update at all.

 

[Cartageno]

The shame is that we wasted the fantastic page number 1111 (in standard settings) on that.

 

[JJJ84]

Agreed.
I've said many times that I can understand people's frustrations.
Even though I've said many times that this is a hobby and development times are not as steady as it would be a 'real' adult creator, it is understandably when people can get a bit frustrated due to something they enjoy is taking longer than expected.

But once it goes into a more demanding style of tone or the talks about 'no excuses', well it is then I kinda raise my eyebrows a bit and say relax and take a break.

Read somewhere about being patron, or it's okay to talk a certain way due to being a patron.
I've always said this and will it again - being a patron does not justify foul behavior. Be it towards me or non patrons.

Yeah.
I'm just getting really tired of seeing "When update?" "No update, so this must have been abandoned." posts which keeps coming up time after time.
Previously I used to visit this thread far more often, but nowadays, I'm trying to visit the thread less due to the thread kinda getting flooded with those nowadays.

Here are some questions for ya (I posted them before, but you probably were a bit too busy to answer).
Hopefully, this will give drive to people into talking about theories/story of the game, instead of whining and complaining about the update time in a demanding/entitled manner:


1) I know you said that it would be rare to see Serpents together in battles, but do Serpents sometimes hang out together when not working, i.e. when chilling out (perhaps something like that Gottardo & "Serpent" playing poker with Floaty render)?

For instance, Gottardo says to MC, Luna & Gracie (in the beach house event) that "Some of the other Serpents and higher ups were having their doubts (about MC) because you know DNA and all that bullshit stuff, but not me! I knew he (MC) was different"
Seems like a sort of discussion that Gottardo might have when he's having time off with the other Serpents.


2) So from Dominico's introduction in the game's opening, it seems pretty clear he's been set up to be MC's rival. Without giving spoilers, how much from within the game will be actually delve into Dom's character?


3) When Caterina mentions in Ombra mission "Quasi-Capo", that he's an Elite Soldato who's next in line to be a Capo, MC says "Like Pelata & the guys (Biondo, Gray)?" which Caterina says Yes.

So that would mean Pelata, Biondo & Gray are all next in line to be Capos, but where would that leave Joey? Is he also in the same boat as Pelata/Biondo/Gray, or does he still have a bit of a way to go until then?

I'm asking this because with both DeLuca & Ombra Families, Elite Soldatos who are getting close to Capo promotion don't seem to be wearing any official uniforms (like Soldatos do, with Pelata & the guys, same with Ombra Quasi-Capo).

Ombra Elite Soldatos' uniform seems to be almost identical to DeLuca Soldato uniform in design (except for being dark and the Family's Scorpion symbol), so I'm inclined to think that DeLucas' Elite Soldato uniform is almost same (if not exactly same) when a Soldato first gets promoted to Elite.

There's been no mention of Joey being close to promotion (unlike Pelata and the guys), yet he dresses differently like everyone in Quasi-Capo situation, so it does make me wonder what position Joey is in exactly.


4) So you've previously said that while main girls (Luna, Gracie, Isabel, Cordia) will not be appearing in the contracts, at least some (if not all) of the side girls, their chance of appearing in these contracts are very high.

We already have Amita, Amata the nun sisters, Lelianna, and Alexa in the first set of contracts.
Can you share names of any other side girls who are candidates to appear in the future contracts (as a tease for things to come), or would revealing their names be considered too spoilery (for e.g. character like Eiza, is it possible for someone like her to appear in contracts even if she already would be working for a different Capo as stated by Cordia)?


5) Eiza's little sister Fina, are there any plans for her to play more part in (any of) future stories, or is her role in the game done with the conclusion of the Ombra mission?


6) Capos (Angelo, Caterina) have been trying to get MC to join their crew in a hilarious way, but will this whole "which crew will MC join" question be addressed (and there be a payoff) in season 2?
If the choice is given, might lead to a bit of branching paths (Angelo's crew path, Caterina crew path), but it could be interesting.

Actually, I know Luna has always been a solo-Capo till now (since it seems she sort of seems to like it that way and noone is crazy enough to join her crew even if she wants a crew), but it would be pretty cool to have a choice where MC can say "You know what? Luna's a Capo, so I'll join her crew." Surprising, Cordia, Wilfred, all the Capos, and of course Luna herself.


7) I love Amita and Amata, the nun sisters and their religious habits, but will we ever get a situation where we see the sisters out of their religious habits and in casual clothes (for e.g. undercover, or any other specific purpose)?


8) When a side character turns out to be more popular than expected (for instance, Onorina, I remember you saying her popularity has been rising since the Ombra event), where do you prefer to increase their content? Include them more in the main story, or add in/increase their contracts content? Or is it both?


9) Something that has been discussed couple of times before in the thread.
In terms of rivals, with MC, he has Dominico (and possibly Ombra Quasi-Capo, that is if he counts as one), and Luna has Apce (whom you said will make a comeback in the future).

With Gracie (who will start to work for the Family from season 2 onwards), will she have any rivals from outside the Family, who is either of same or close to her age, but is able to match her intelligence?

So far, with plans Gracie thought of (such as foiling Straffan's ambush plans for Antonio and DeLuca soldiers) went without a hitch, but it would be interesting to see Gracie be challenged intellectually by a rival, struggle or even lose a battle of wits in some cases (she thinks noone other than Wilfred is intelligent than her, so having her fall from initial battle with her rival, but getting back up with help of MC, Luna and her Family might be an interesting arc to explore for her).


10) I know Eiza doesn't show a lot of strong emotions (such as anger) with her expressions but given she was forced to work for Ombras due to her sister being a hostage, how strong is her animosity towards the Ombras?

For instance, with MC and Siobhan starting their interaction with Ombra event, if she saw MC & Siobhan meet (their second meet) while keeping an eye out for her Unofficial Boss, will she be angry (and be really holding a grudge) towards Siobhan, daughter of the Family who ruined her Family, that MC might need to hold her back?


11) With Frenetico Games, like the athletes who train for Olympic games, will we get some events where MC (and other DeLuca participants) training for these games?
If that's to be considered, could we please have some combat training sessions between MC & Luna as part of it (striking yes, but lots of wrestling & jiujitsu, where MC & Luna tumble over each other, which I'd expect there to be hilarious yet lewd situations, heh.


12) I'm guessing the answer to this question will likely be "No", but I'll ask anyway.
Will there be any point in time where the game takes place outside of Lucania?
I mean, yes, given MC's situation, all events for him I'm guessing would likely be taking place in Lucania, but even if it's not from MC's perspective, I do wonder whether we'll see characters in situations outside Lucania.

For example, "Serpent" gets asked by Cordia (when he comes to Cordia's office and meets MC for "first" time in the game) "How long will you stay at Lucania?" which he replies "Not long." (felt like he was sort of implying he does some stuff outside Lucania)

So I do wonder whether we'll see any Serpents or others doing a job outside Lucania in the game.

 

[Freki.g]

Don't agree.
Being a patron or not being a patron does not change anything in an environment without rules that does not protect anyone's investments (customers and developers) and in this context no opinion makes sense in this thread.
Without fools the profiteers would not be able to live, it is not a question of frustration or bad behavior.

 

[Paco Loco]

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Yeah nobody ever posts in this thread, we never see the developer, and haven't gotten any news about the update at all.

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Yep, I have the same feeling.

 

[HopesGaming]

1) I know you said that it would be rare to see Serpents together in battles, but do Serpents sometimes hang out together when not working, i.e. when chilling out (perhaps something like that Gottardo & "Serpent" playing poker with Floaty render)?

Serpent does not.
The rest may or may not have relationships like that outside of missions where they hang out. But can't get into that before even having them introduced and still in the 'work in progress' part of the story.

2) So from Dominico's introduction in the game's opening, it seems pretty clear he's been set up to be MC's rival. Without giving spoilers, how much from within the game will be actually delve into Dom's character?

I have some stuff planned. If I do everything in my mind, it'll be a ton. But rarely does everything I have in mind translate into actual content.

3) When Caterina mentions in Ombra mission "Quasi-Capo", that he's an Elite Soldato who's next in line to be a Capo, MC says "Like Pelata & the guys (Biondo, Gray)?" which Caterina says Yes.

So that would mean Pelata, Biondo & Gray are all next in line to be Capos, but where would that leave Joey? Is he also in the same boat as Pelata/Biondo/Gray, or does he still have a bit of a way to go until then?

I'm asking this because with both DeLuca & Ombra Families, Elite Soldatos who are getting close to Capo promotion don't seem to be wearing any official uniforms (like Soldatos do, with Pelata & the guys, same with Ombra Quasi-Capo).

Ombra Elite Soldatos' uniform seems to be almost identical to DeLuca Soldato uniform in design (except for being dark and the Family's Scorpion symbol), so I'm inclined to think that DeLucas' Elite Soldato uniform is almost same (if not exactly same) when a Soldato first gets promoted to Elite.

There's been no mention of Joey being close to promotion (unlike Pelata and the guys), yet he dresses differently like everyone in Quasi-Capo situation, so it does make me wonder what position Joey is in exactly.

Joey is the lowest ranked Elite Soldato. He is as far away to those three guys, in status, as any elite rank can be.
The clothing system in the delucaverse is actually part of the lore, as weird as that may sound. To make it very short - old system (old big 5's) the clothing were very strict. New system (new big 5's) is more relaxed and loose about the clothing requirements.
Now, it is common for lower rank people to wear the traditional outfit at all times, while it technically is not a rule per se. It is a sign of respect to the Family and at the same time to shown pride in being part of the Family.
Due to the new system change (looser requirement on outfits), slowly a new habit/tradition has appeared. The higher status you have the less 'strict' your uniform code becomes as it is a sign of experience and Family bond by wearing something more 'casual'.
If a lower rank wear something outside what is the norm for the Family at that rank and something more casual, ironically, it will be a sign of disrespect towards the family even if the new changes actually allow for casual clothing.

Soldato ranks usually wear the outfits while once they get Elite soldato some become a bit more relaxed in their clothing while others stick with it until they are at the upper end of an elite soldato rank before doing the 'switch'.

Some Families still follow the old system to some degrees. Ombra Family is one such Family where 90% of even their elites wearing the outfits. Basically have to be a quasi capo before it is acceptable to wear anything else.
Deluca is way more lax, which makes sense as Cordia was one of the pioneer for the new Mafia system.

It can be a bit confusing, but hopefully my explanation made somewhat sense.

4) So you've previously said that while main girls (Luna, Gracie, Isabel, Cordia) will not be appearing in the contracts, at least some (if not all) of the side girls, their chance of appearing in these contracts are very high.

We already have Amita, Amata the nun sisters, Lelianna, and Alexa in the first set of contracts.
Can you share names of any other side girls who are candidates to appear in the future contracts (as a tease for things to come), or would revealing their names be considered too spoilery (for e.g. character like Eiza, is it possible for someone like her to appear in contracts even if she already would be working for a different Capo as stated by Cordia)?

Main girls can appear. If I said that, I changed my mind since, heh. They just won't appear much.

Dunno about which side characters as yet. Haven't been thinking about contracts lately.

5) Eiza's little sister Fina, are there any plans for her to play more part in (any of) future stories, or is her role in the game done with the conclusion of the Ombra mission?

No. Beside some few insignificant appearances here and there - there are no major plans with her.

6) Capos (Angelo, Caterina) have been trying to get MC to join their crew in a hilarious way, but will this whole "which crew will MC join" question be addressed (and there be a payoff) in season 2?
If the choice is given, might lead to a bit of branching paths (Angelo's crew path, Caterina crew path), but it could be interesting.

Actually, I know Luna has always been a solo-Capo till now (since it seems she sort of seems to like it that way and noone is crazy enough to join her crew even if she wants a crew), but it would be pretty cool to have a choice where MC can say "You know what? Luna's a Capo, so I'll join her crew." Surprising, Cordia, Wilfred, all the Capos, and of course Luna herself.

Right now I have a different plan for MC which makes it harder to do any routes like that.

Actually, about Luna - there are many people who want to join her team. They would love to. She is after all really popular in the Family and a big status in the Mafia world.
It's just that Wilfred and Cordia isn't allowed her to have a team.

7) I love Amita and Amata, the nun sisters and their religious habits, but will we ever get a situation where we see the sisters out of their religious habits and in casual clothes (for e.g. undercover, or any other specific purpose)?

Perhaps. Dunno. Probably.

8) When a side character turns out to be more popular than expected (for instance, Onorina, I remember you saying her popularity has been rising since the Ombra event), where do you prefer to increase their content? Include them more in the main story, or add in/increase their contracts content? Or is it both?

Depends on where it is fitting. Onorina is part of the new Gracie quest line. Albeit little but her dialogue would probably have been less involved if not for her popularity.

9) Something that has been discussed couple of times before in the thread.
In terms of rivals, with MC, he has Dominico (and possibly Ombra Quasi-Capo, that is if he counts as one), and Luna has Apce (whom you said will make a comeback in the future).

That is spoiler territory, so can't say too much unfortunately
But, Apce isn't a rival for Luna. That isn't the current plan I have for him.

10) I know Eiza doesn't show a lot of strong emotions (such as anger) with her expressions, but given she was forced to work for Ombras due to her sister being a hostage, how strong is her animosity towards the Ombras?

For instance, with MC and Siobhan starting their interaction with Ombra event, if she saw MC & Siobhan meet (their second meet) while keeping an eye out for her Unofficial Boss, will she be angry (and be really holding a grudge) towards Siobhan, daughter of the Family who ruined her Family, that MC might need to hold her back?

Very strong animosity and would not be happy with any members of the Ombras. But her Family Code will always be above her feelings, so there won't be a situation where it is needed to hold her back.

11) With Frenetico Games, like the athletes who train for Olympic games, will we get some events where MC (and other DeLuca participants) training for these games?
If that's to be considered, could we please have some combat training sessions between MC & Luna as part of it (striking yes, but lots of wrestling & jiujitsu, where MC & Luna tumble over each other, which I'd expect there to be hilarious yet lewd situations, heh.

[povname] is already training with the Family behind the scenes. But showing it, and especially the Luna part, sounds fun.

12) I'm guessing the answer to this question will likely be "No", but I'll ask anyway.
Will there be any point in time where the game takes place outside of Lucania?
I mean, yes, given MC's situation, all events for him I'm guessing would likely be taking place in Lucania, but even if it's not from MC's perspective, I do wonder whether we'll see characters in situations outside Lucania.

For example, "Serpent" gets asked by Cordia (when he comes to Cordia's office and meets MC for "first" time in the game) "How long will you stay at Lucania?" which he replies "Not long." (felt like he was sort of implying he does some stuff outside Lucania)

So I do wonder whether we'll see any Serpents or others doing a job outside Lucania in the game.

Hmm, Lucania is just the town name and not the map area. So in that sense we have been outside of Lucania a couple of times now. There may be situations in the future where the Mc will have to travel a long distance.

 

[MrLKX]

Regarding Luna's modus operandi, it is not surprising that she is not allowed to have her own crew. I imagine that depending on the mission, the losses could be massive.

What I could imagine is putting together a small team that complements each other well but works apart from the actual established crews. Initially consisting of Luna and MC, who so far has been the only one to get Luna out of one of her phases quickly, Joey and possibly Dominico. This way, the existing rivalry between Dominico and MC could be deepened and highlighted, and then later he could be taken out, due to the conflict between him and MC, and then Gracie could be established as a team member once she is accepted in the family business.

 

[c3p0]

The shame is that we wasted the fantastic page number 1111 (in standard settings) on that.

Only one whole page? I think we've wasted a few pages in total to this shit.

Also JJJ84: I can feel you. It is the same for me too. Previous there were some debate and other things, now it is mostly lazy question or troll, then pro team make at least a full page of post and con team to, without any gain.

 

[JJJ84]

Only one whole page? I think we've wasted a few pages in total to this shit.

It seems less since Mods did a cleansing with couple of pages, but I think at least 10 or even upto 20 pages were in the whole "abandoned" shit if we count what's been said in this thread in the past couple of weeks.
Frankly, I'm just tired of the crap like that.