Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[Rovenant]

HopesGaming

If you dont mind I want to ask a question too.

The game implies that we will have a "team" and will be able to send them to contracts and our reaction to them will change according to the personality trait. My question is: in the game world, is it normal to "change sides" or change your loyalty? For example if Fawkes want to be in our team, is there a way to break the Omerta to your own family to serve another? doing something like this is dishonorable?

 

[djustmie]

help wanted

does anyone know why i cant continue the story from this save?
or how to solve it
(could be i just miss some very obvious option)

thnx

 

[Cartageno]

help wanted

does anyone know why i cant continue the story from this save?
or how to solve it
(could be i just miss some very obvious option)

thnx

Depends on what precisely you want to continue. My first task would be: Go to Wilfred, select talk - Contracts, then go to your laptop and research further.

I dunno whether you're having some troubles but your save is running on version 0.8.0, I recommend to at least upgrade to 0.8.0.2 with the download in the OP.

 

[JJJ84]

Why sometime some of the dialogue choice is in red color? What does it mean? Also red not always mean the best choice so I don't see the point.

I cant remember where it says this (probably in the "?" option) but when you have enough points with a girl you can unlock a scene (red option). I cant remember if you can see the option if you dont have enough score but cant click it, or if you only can see it when you have the score (about the score, you can see the progression in the character option and looking how the image of every chacter change and their thoughts).

The "Introduction" event in the beginning of the game when Luna gives MC a guide of the house actually tells the player following:

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My question is: in the game world, is it normal to "change sides" or change your loyalty? For example if Fawkes want to be in our team, is there a way to break the Omerta to your own family to serve another? doing something like this is dishonorable?

I highly doubt it.
In pretty much all mafia fiction breaking the Omerta or changing your loyalty (i.e. betraying/turning one's back on the Family) means pretty much a death sentence for that person.
Look at what happened to Trino. We don't know the full story behind his actions (even though he claims he did it for the money), but due to that betrayal he got the death sentence (though it was done unceremoniously in Cordia's office due to Antonio's short temper, it still would have happened in The Woods, regardless).

I'd imagine it's the same for every DeLuca-verse Mafia Family out there.
Omerta and the one's Family loyalty lasts for life; and looks to be an unbreakable bond.

Eiza (and probably rest of the few remaining Carnefice Family members) is an exception because her father (the Don) is dead, & Carnefice Family is pretty much extinct (i.e. no more), which makes her be available to be under Contract to DeLucas and be on MC's team.
But that is a very rare case.

With Fawkes, I'd say the only possibility for him to be officially in MC's team would be, either

- Fawkes' father somehow pledges loyalty to Cordia and willingly becomes a Sub-Family of DeLucas (not likely to happen since Feni Family is a member of Bonanzo Family).

or

- Feni Family somehow gets in an alliance with the DeLucas (also not likely, due to the same reason as above, since Bonanzo Family is in an antagonistic relationship with DeLucas).

both options which don't really have high chances of happening anytime soon.

 

[DarkenDragon]

man I just gotta say, I just finished the gracie's mission arc and I am so loving the story so far. honestly I feel like this story writing is pure gold. I'd really love to see this turn into a feature film or a tv series, it would make a killing. though the adult theme will have to be toned down I guess to get a broader audience but honestly the sex stuff doesnt even matter to me now, I want to play it more for the story than anything else. thank you for creating this.

 

[djustmie]

Depends on what precisely you want to continue. My first task would be: Go to Wilfred, select talk - Contracts, then go to your laptop and research further.

I dunno whether you're having some troubles but your save is running on version 0.8.0, I recommend to at least upgrade to 0.8.0.2 with the download in the OP.

thnx for answer

i play ''full expierence''

all the availeble missions are completed now
nothing to do in the computer
event log is empty

just want to continue the story but it says tnat i need to check event log
thing is event log gave no indications (empty because nothing else to do)

new save file to look into if you want

upgrade is running

 

[3 Pood]

thnx for answer

i play ''full expierence''

all the availeble missions are completed now
nothing to do in the computer
event log is empty

just want to continue the story but it says tnat i need to check event log
thing is event log gave no indications (empty because nothing else to do)

new save file to look into if you want

upgrade is running

Wrong tab

But yes, you need to upgrade

 

[Cartageno]

thnx for answer

i play ''full expierence''

all the availeble missions are completed now
nothing to do in the computer
event log is empty

just want to continue the story but it says tnat i need to check event log
thing is event log gave no indications (empty because nothing else to do)

new save file to look into if you want

upgrade is running

The "Full Experience" is within the save, so I get that too (playing it anyway). Thing is for me, when loading up either of your saves, the event tab isn't empty but contains the event "The Contract" with the order to talk to Wilfred (in the way I described earlier).

(Side note: later on the event log will be empty but still enough to do, then you have to change the rider to Event Log. Edit: see 3Pood's post above)

 

[Rovenant]

The "Introduction" event in the beginning of the game when Luna gives MC a guide of the house actually tells the player following:

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I highly doubt it.
In pretty much all mafia fiction breaking the Omerta or changing your loyalty (i.e. betraying/turning one's back on the Family) means pretty much a death sentence for that person.
Look at what happened to Trino. We don't know the full story behind his actions (even though he claims he did it for the money), but due to that betrayal he got the death sentence (though it was done unceremoniously in Cordia's office due to Antonio's short temper, it still would have happened in The Woods, regardless).

I'd imagine it's the same for every DeLuca-verse Mafia Family out there.
Omerta and the one's Family loyalty lasts for life; and looks to be an unbreakable bond.

Eiza (and probably rest of the few remaining Carnefice Family members) is an exception because her father (the Don) is dead, & Carnefice Family is pretty much extinct (i.e. no more), which makes her be available to be under Contract to DeLucas and be on MC's team.
But that is a very rare case.

With Fawkes, I'd say the only possibility for him to be officially in MC's team would be, either

- Fawkes' father somehow pledges loyalty to Cordia and willingly becomes a Sub-Family of DeLucas (not likely to happen since Feni Family is a member of Bonanzo Family).

or

- Feni Family somehow gets in an alliance with the DeLucas (also not likely, due to the same reason as above, since Bonanzo Family is in an antagonistic relationship with DeLucas).

both options which don't really have high chances of happening anytime soon.

I wasnt talking about breaking the Omerta, but changing loyalty.
Something like when someone saves your life and you are in debt with them. Or in families where the Omerta isnt for the entire life.

So, maybe is like you said, and no matter the situation isnt appropiate to change sides, or maybe there isnt a protocol to follow with the pacificatori with this matter either. But if we know for sure about this we can already understand if some characters will be allowed or not to be with us, and that way without expecting someone to change sides and follow us when that doenst make sense in the world.

 

[3 Pood]

The "Full Experience" is within the save, so I get that too (playing it anyway). Thing is for me, when loading up either of your saves, the event tab isn't empty but contains the event "The Contract" with the order to talk to Wilfred (in the way I described earlier).

That's because you are running a version later than 0.08.0. Seriously. that bug is the most annoying thing, as it was fixed almost immediately, but because it was the version that leaked people still are running into it even though a later version is available free to the public

 

[Cartageno]

That's because you are running a version later than 0.08.0. Seriously. that bug is the most annoying thing, as it was fixed almost immediately, but because it was the version that leaked people still are running into it even though a later version is available free to the public

I assumed as much (it helped that I read some posts in this forum, too, to strengthen my conviction), which is why I suggested upgrading to (at least) 0.08.0.2, which is what I am running.

 

[JJJ84]

I wasnt talking about breaking the Omerta, but changing loyalty.
Something like when someone saves your life and you are in debt with them. Or in families where the Omerta isnt for the entire life.

So, maybe is like you said, and no matter the situation isnt appropiate to change sides, or maybe there isnt a protocol to follow with the pacificatori with this matter either. But if we know for sure about this we can already understand if some characters will be allowed or not to be with us, and that way without expecting someone to change sides and follow us when that doenst make sense in the world.

That would depend on what actions are being taken by the individual, regarding "changing loyalty."
Is the person making a formal oath (like what MC did with Blackie in that "Promotion" event), making it permanent or just helping out for a single, one-off time?

If it is a one-off thing (as you said, paying back a debt), well.....I'd think a debt can be paid without one actually changing their loyalty to their existing Family.

Something permanent (i.e. formal Oath) though, I'd say would likely be a huge "no-no" even if an individual becomes a 'made-man' (like Blackie said).
There may not be a rule said out loud about it yet, but my assumption is, a made-man released by the Family (with no longer any obligation to work for the Family), is still expected to not work for other Families and is expected to just live out his life as a civilian (and working for rival or enemy Families especially I'd say would get them the death sentence more likely than not).

If we're taking your example with Fawkes per say, traditionally him being in a same team with the MC is highly unlikely. But there could be circumstance or possibilities around that.

Either Feni Family somehow has a huge fallout with the Bonanzo Family, forcing the Feni Family to seek another Family for asylum (yeah, sounds a bit similar to Eiza's arc, I know), or Fawkes' father could die and Fawkes becomes the new head of his Family, and decide to ally with DeLucas.

So possibilities can exist, yet it all depends on the circumstance/situation changes.
And traditionally, I'd say such act is probably hugely frowned upon, especially if it's permanent and not a one-time thing (to pay back a debt for the sake of the honour/respect).

 

[Rovenant]

That would depend on what actions are being taken by the individual, regarding "changing loyalty."
Is the person making a formal oath (like what MC did with Blackie in that "Promotion" event), making it permanent or just helping out for a single, one-off time?

If it is a one-off thing (as you said, paying back a debt), well.....I'd think a debt can be paid without one actually changing their loyalty to their existing Family.

Something permanent (i.e. formal Oath) though, I'd say would likely be a huge "no-no" even if an individual becomes a 'made-man' (like Blackie said).
There may not be a rule said out loud about it yet, but my assumption is, a made-man released by the Family (with no longer any obligation to work for the Family), is still expected to not work for other Families and is expected to just live out his life as a civilian (and working for rival or enemy Families especially I'd say would get them the death sentence more likely than not).

If we're taking your example with Fawkes per say, traditionally him being in a same team with the MC is highly unlikely. But there could be circumstance or possibilities around that.

Either Feni Family somehow has a huge fallout with the Bonanzo Family, forcing the Feni Family to seek another Family for asylum (yeah, sounds a bit similar to Eiza's arc, I know), or Fawkes' father could die and Fawkes becomes the new head of his Family, and decide to ally with DeLucas.

So possibilities can exist, yet it all depends on the circumstance/situation changes.
And traditionally, I'd say such act is probably hugely frowned upon, especially if it's permanent and not a one-time thing (to pay back a debt for the sake of the honour/respect).

I really suck at explaining in English hahaha. I was trying to say "debt" like when someone saved your life and you are in debt for life or something like that. Being this world one that highly valuate the traditions maybe something like that was enough reason to avail a change.
Or maybe it's possible with contracts under certain conditions (like with Eiza).

Or what happens if your family failed you. For example when MC life threatened in the main house (so the family is falling to protect their own) does a situation like this allow an exception?

 

[3 Pood]

I still have the useless money text on screen all the time with the latest version, so I made a small hotfix.
Using it money is only displayed when you actually need it (in the shop).

The shops are not the only place you spend (or earn) money. And the bug was fixed, if it was stuck you just need to click on the laptop.

 

[Blackwater909090]

love this game, can't wait for more, looking forward towards season 2.
Thanks Hopes. Will continue supporting.

 

[The CaeSar]

Android version of 0.08.0.3?

 

[Allan Trumbull]

Android version of 0.08.0.3?

Available. But bugged

 

[The CaeSar]

Available. But bugged

Ok will wait for the next update then

 

[DarkDaemonX]

I have nimble fingers at 95%, but I have literally done everything in the walkthrough post, and went through all possible options too.

Can someone please tell me what to do?

Never mind, it was most likely that I never got the painkillers from the dog, because I was never empty on those, it's 100% done now.

 

[Cartageno]

I have nimble fingers at 95%, but I have literally done everything in the walkthrough post, and went through all possible options too.

Can someone please tell me what to do?

Never mind, it was most likely that I never got the painkillers from the dog, because I was never empty on those, it's 100% done now.

Not without seeing your save to find out what exactly is missing. My last one was attacking the guard, but this may differ.