Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[MiciChan]

Does anyone know when the story will continue?

 

[Anthaeus]

Does anyone know when the story will continue?

The honest answer is no. All of the info is somewhere in the 1300+ pages of posts, but here's a quick summary.

The next update will be mainly missions and any other bits and pieces needed to get the game ready for chapter 1 to be released on Steam.

Like any steam release, there will probably be some updates to correct issues before development resumes in earnest on the story.

Hopes, (the solo developer), lives in Denmark, which has a very high cost of living. He has needed to work a full time job to pay the bills, and this means long development times. This might change after the steam release but probably won't.

Hopes has always been clear about the fact that although he would like to work full time on the game, real life issues take priority.

 

[Cartageno]

I think it's pretty apparent how this dev feels about the people who don't like the lack of sexual content.

Yes, that is true. He may not disapprove of them on a personal level but their opinion won't change stuff. Just like a chef in a Chinese restaurant may not bake a pizza even if people demand it, or a rock band may not be doing a rap song. He is "offering" a game he makes and people who like the theme and the way can enjoy it. We can still discuss whether he does what he does well, but there is a certain part of the audience this game is going for (like any other game) and if you (general "you", not necessarily "jhustrue you") are not part of this audience that is not inherently the game's (or better developer's) fault.

(The scene you are referring to is in my understanding more about the style of complaints than the content by the way, but that is probably not important for this discussion here.)

Is there penetrative vaginal intercourse to orgasm in the game? Yes.
Is there a blowjob in this game? Yes
Are there grinding to orgasm scenes in this game? Yes
Are there other foreplay scenes? Yes

Would someone that thinks there is no sex in the game please provide their definition of sex as I think it could be quite interesting to read.

I think they are referring to the well known definition by behavioral psychologist William J. Clinton.

 

[OnlyFriend]

See you in next november for the next update

 

[c3p0]

In fact, if you were using the Royal We, We can still mean one person. I should start using the royal we, practicing for the future.

We think, as in our role as the official spokeperson of Floaty, that you are right. Therefore from now on, we will refer to us from now one with we.

Come to think of it, I actually thought Gracie's "Working for Family" storyline will get resolved in this season 1, but it didn't.

As you already know, the recording shows. Perhaps it would be more from Cordia, if it wasn't for the cliffhanger.

We don't like this update, we haven't seen a glimpse of any dragoons and neither of Floaty. We would urgent the developer of this game to change all his plan and immediately add the necessary things to include at least one Floaty scene and one dragoon scene with each update. Otherwise we can not recommend this game, because of the lack of it.
We also future encourage this site to add the tags "Floaty" and "Dragoons" to it.

Is there penetrative vaginal intercourse to orgasm in the game? Yes.
Is there a blowjob in this game? Yes
Are there grinding to orgasm scenes in this game? Yes
Are there other foreplay scenes? Yes

Would someone that thinks there is no sex in the game please provide their definition of sex as I think it could be quite interesting to read.

We also would like to hear their definition. Maby we could compare it with well know definition of "sex" that are from general accepted english authorities and see if we can find out the difference. As it is nothing that we can do, could change if they are willing to participate in it or not, so we only can wait and see.

Oh, Allan. We are astonishes and highly honoured to know that you have used your valued time for our post and even given us a reward with your gracious reaction. We know, we will cherish that for the rest of our humble life.

 

[Hysni]

WTF wait allot of time for game to be updated... and what do you see ? 2 events nothing more Mc stil cant penetrate one of Main girls + last death of princess ? wtf Gracie or Any other girls and Milf should be Alive And Mc should Have Sex with Them

Story needs to be changed give power to Mc -Cordia gives all power to Mc- MC become Don Impregnatore
(If there was real Mobster story ok go on but this characters are not real - Of course Sex actions must be More and More )

Hope Dev Doe's not kill one of Girls or Milf = will spoil the game

 

[HornyyPussy]

WTF wait allot of time for game to be updated... and what do you see ? 2 events nothing more Mc stil cant penetrate one of Main girls + last death of princess ? wtf Gracie or Any other girls and Milf should be Alive And Mc should Have Sex with Them

Story needs to be changed give power to Mc -Cordia gives all power to Mc- MC become Don Impregnatore
(If there was real Mobster story ok go on but this characters are not real - Of course Sex actions must be More and More )

Hope Dev Doe's not kill one of Girls or Milf = will spoil the game

No

 

[Cartageno]

(If there was real Mobster story ok go on but this characters are not real - Of course Sex actions must be More and More )

Sorry, I don't get the first part - what do you mean by "real" here?

And no, it is not "of course" though "more and more" will certainly happen but it will just be less than in other games on this site (though as has been mentioned, we already have more than in some games).

 

[jish55]

So because this is the end of season 1, that means we'll be seeing this game finally being put on steam. Once that happens, if Hopes gets a lot of support from the steam sales and in turn, more supporters on Patreon, could lead to him working on the game full time. What people need to remember with this game is that, as Hopes has stated time and again, this is a hobby and not his main job, where he only works on it when he has the time.

 

[Jimayo]

sister path?

I believe her name is lucy. She's the model's sister.

 

[Segnbora]

I mean, like many other people I'd love to see more sex in this story. But the dev has never, ever, ever been unclear about their priorities. One can't legitimately argue that they've been misled.

 

[JJJ84]

I mean, like many other people I'd love to see more sex in this story. But the dev has never, ever, ever been unclear about their priorities. One can't legitimately argue that they've been misled.

He's been saying from Day 1 in his Patreon page the following:



He also stated there will definitely be sex with the main girls in season 2 (game is planned to have at least 3 seasons from what he said before), multiple times now, for months.

Yet some folks are in uproar as if he deceived them from the beginning.
It's ridiculous to say the least lol.

 

[Fajlar6]

no sex scenes(yet)?,, No problem
Just half?,, No problem

One of the girls die(shot/killed)?,, That is the BIG problem for me

 

[Demonius]

i have a feeling that Gracie has

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[milfkiller]

any milf scene?

 

[Lorenz1]

Does anyone have a save BEFORE the new content? The one in the OP is after everything is finished.

 

[Cartageno]

any milf scene?

No, not yet.

 

[Lorenz1]

What's wrong with the one linked in the OP?

It has everything finished, all main quests of the updated are marked as done.

 

[Agul]

Oh, I am not upset. I may be pedantic - gotta admit that - but not upset as such.

Any pronoun needs something to refer to somebody/a group of people by definition, that is why it is a pronoun. "He is hungry" is useless if you don't know who "he" is. Same with "we". There is no "I and some others" unless you specify it. If you use it without context it falls back to default which here is everybody who could be in it, i. e. all.



I am gonna stop you right there because it has been said multiple times that it isn't. It is an adult game. Which means it contains porn but it isn't about porn as the main driving factor.



Firstly, this includes my opinion as well as yours, so I am just as much allowed to voice it as you are. Secondly, your opinion that the game is boring is perfectly fine, as already said, but you are judging the game on some metrics it does not want to meet. Sure, you can consider the music of Beyoncé boring because it is just generic pop without impact, and I would be with you all the way, however, she isn't going for the music we like, so we would only be allowed to judge actual quality aspects. We can say we consider it boring but it would be pointless because what we want is not what she is going for.



Again, you are complaining that you do not like the cake because you wanted a steak. Which would be perfectly reasonable if you had been promised a steak but you haven't. If you don't want to have the promises on the inside of your eyelids, I am happy to remind you.



Why is porn in a narrative focused game at all? Because why not? There is no reason to only have one or the other. And there is no reason, if you want to have one of them in it to go to any extreme.

And yes, the game is titillating, however not everybody has the same preferences as you and preferences in terms of speed of development (I mean of the stories, not of updates here) and wants for background on a character before going into action differ. I would guess even within the same person, depending on how much they get involved with the storyline and how they feel on a certain day.

And while I will not disagree with "pay-off for characters in the game is about having a narrative that makes sense of the sex scenes", I will disagree with the order of what you say - not every story is "narrative so the sex makes sense but we're here for the sex", there is "sex is a part of the narrative, since it comes to it". But yes, I do want those scenes to happen in the end. But stuff can be easily the conclusion to a story without it being the main focus.

As to "who apart from me is calling" and so forth: I will not claim to be able to speak for others but from this thread I very much gather that most of the regulars are happy with the way the story develops (if not with the release schedule). I mean, that's why they're regulars. Would JJJ84 ask as many questions about characters' backgrounds if he was only here for the fap? Would whichone take stances as he does? How about Abhai or Ayhsel or c3p0?

Of course they might disagree. Or even if they agree we might be the victims of group think. But there are enough people who chose this very game and follow it because they are happy with how it is done. And, to repeat a point, how it is intended to be done.

I have been summoned, my future subjects!! Please... no applauds.. ok.. some applauds!

This is actually wrong and in fact you are doing precisely what you accused Cartageno of doing: assume stuff. There is technically nothing to say Hopes is trying to satisfy his audience. If anything, and going by what he did in game, you have an scene criticizing this kind of behavior with Caenis.


This statement is true. Claiming we does not imply all. Cartageno simply assumed you were claiming "all". While understandable given context*, this is still his bad.

*I personally believe that you used we instead of I there not because you are trying to be a voice for other people, but because you wanted to make your case stronger by claiming there is another people thinking like you. This is, however, my assumption. Untested, as such it can be wrong.

In fact, if you were using the Royal We, We can still mean one person. I should start using the royal we, practicing for the future.


You are assuming again he wants to create quality spank material. This statement was proven false by Hopes himself. So you are saying it is not helping doing something he does not want to do. Where is the problem?


This is the point. In red and bold: "trying to judge it on something it doesn't want to be is just a moot point in a discussion" otherwise, we might as well criticize this game for being a terrible children's game. Clearly does not make sense.

This has been systematically proven wrong. It is not porn. It is erotica. Porn is all about the titillations, erotica includes sexual content but it is not the only aspect of the art at hand.

Indeed you can. People can also complain about your complains and people can complain about people's complain about your complains and it follows ad infinitum.

You are confusing sex with porn. Sex is the act, porn is type of art that specifically looks at representations of sex for stimulations' sake.
Stop assuming this is porn and your request are all irrelevant.

I didn't go through every single post, but I saw enough (well I did see your initial post and couple others), and lol.
As Carta stated, Hopes stated from the very start that DeLuca was going to be a story first focused game.
There will be sex/bed action, but full sex won't arrive until it is fitting for the story.

So to go on complaining "Can't fuck the main girls yet."
lmao, do you even hear yourself?

F95zone (a.k.a. the Zone), is an adult games website.
Not every game will have the girls jump the MC's bones the first chance they get.

There's plenty of games by devs on this website which take the slow burn approach toward the LIs which a lot of the fanbase are in it for the story, rather than the sex (and games like Hillside, and Summer's Gone 2 quite popular games, don't have sex scenes yet, but even so are great games).

- The DeLuca Family (obviously)
- Hillside by DarkBlue
- Rebirth by LikesBlondes
- Summer's Gone by OceanLab
- A Father's Sins by Pixieblink
- Price of Power by Pandaman games

There should be more, but those are the ones which come to my mind at the moment.
And people for these games are primarily in it for the story, with sex being the icing on the cake for them.
You seem like a person who thinks of the sex being the main cake (and thus, is unlikely the main target audience of Hopes to begin with).

And to add further, there are even games on this site which has zero sex scenes (like The House in Fata Morgana) yet has great storyline, so any possible argument you may raise saying "This is a porn game website" is just.... nonsense.

F95zone is an Adult game website, and in that very wide "Adult game" umbrella, it houses porn/quick-fap games, but also slow-burn, more story oriented games (that will have sex in them) like DeLuca and others.

In the end, it's just you're not the target audience/players (so you have only yourself to blame, for not realizing sooner what kind of game this is lol).

I hope at least some of you can see how ironic it is that in my original post, I complained I might not live to see the end of The DeLuca Family due to its expanding plot and ever lengthening list of characters - now I have so many of the Hopes Defense Force Mafia replying to me, I might not reach the end of this post.

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What I have so far is some nonsense about language, some really arbitrary points about porn/erotica for people that think this game is high art, comparisons to famous musicians/novelists that don't make sense. Cartegeno is saying something about cake and steak, but the real issue is he's telling me his chicken fingers are steak. On the inclusion of porn thing, when you add stuff like peeking on girls in the bath/shower, wet dreams and secret adulterous blowjobs; you might not be going to an extreme, but you're making an affirmative decision about the content of the game.

It doesn't make sense to include things like this that people playing are clearly meant to jerk off to and then start talking about how TDLF is "erotica" and not "porn", your point is completely arbitrary. There is more than enough story to start justifying an escalation of the sex scenes; a satisfying, merited escalation. The problem is the story isn't getting to the point and isn't interesting enough on it's own to justify it's length. Can a game like this have a great, well written story and would those of us that are primarily here for porn enjoy it? Yes, absolutely. But as the narratively focused game you're saying it is, it seems to be going downhill fast (or extremely slowly, because we'll all be demented and pissing our pants before this game ends). You're telling me Hopes intention is for something I don't want. I'm telling you I think his game is failing even at that.

Now the other dude: something about Hopes never said he wanted a satisfied audience? I don't really know what point you're trying to make because I probably starting skimming through the scene in question because it isn't nearly as clever or interesting as you think it is. How can you really act like this isn't a laughable statement? He doesn't want people to enjoy his game? That I don't believe.

I'll redress this erotica/porn point one last time. Merriam Webster defines pornography in this case as
: material (such as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement

on erotica, the relevant definition is this
: literary or artistic works having an erotic theme or quality

In actual fact, people can and do use these words interchangeably, but I think we can reach and answer that makes sense. Let's look at TDLF: It's a game that explicitly shows 3d models fucking - there's animations, there's cum, it's very much committed to this presentation because it's formatted like any number of porn games. The sexual content is meant to excite. You can tell me this game is art or a great novel or something so it satisfies the definition of erotica, but really it's just another ren'py game with sex scenes. It makes more sense to call it porn. Your own definition of porn calls this game porn.

Okay, last guy. Yes, I will complain you can't fuck the main girls yet. When would fucking be fitting? Another three years? Why don't you explain for us all how long it would take to make "fitting" sex scenes?

"Not every game will have the girls jump the MC's bones the first chance they get."

Okay, so not first, not third, not fiftieth, not even after years. This statement by you is so disingenuous because you're framing it like the game just started and people are complaining. There's slow burn, we know, then there's a slow burn that dies down because you're trying to keep it alive in a monsoon. You wait for things to dry out, but by the time you came back, you can't remember why you were trying to light a fire in the first place. That's what this game is like, and it's a perfectly valid view to hold.

Is good porn the main draw? I mean sure, but I like enough story for context and payoff. Again, if you like story for story, okay. IMHO, this story is getting out of hand and I don't get why you're trying to champion it instead of being real with your criticism.

I don't care what non-porn games are on here. F95 is 99% porn. It's so cheap that you'd just say "you're not the target audience" to deflect all criticism of the game when you don't have a constructive rebuttal. This game *has* had good updates where I like the story and felt the scenes included were just fine and dandy, the point is that we're getting further and further down the line in this meandering story. Since you're strawmanning me on the "this is a porn game website" point, I'll do you the same courtesy: you might think people who are starting to dislike TDLF's story have a short attention span, but failing to gain and maintain audience interest - which includes critically: being concise, is a failure of the game. It's been years, the people who are commenting this are being completely reasonable.

 

[frozenfeet]

lol there are games like Summer's Gone and Hillside which if I'm not mistaken have been in development for similar length of time to DeLuca (if not longer), and have no sex scenes yet (in fact, Hillside only has couple more updates to go until game's complete and there's still no sex scenes. Despite that, great game that's enjoyable).
And yes, those games devs also have the "story first" policy of the game which the dev maintains, as well as the people who complain/whine saying "where are my sex scenes!" (particularly those who want quick fap lol)

So no, I don't find that to be a valid thing to say.
Just people who whine feeling entitled, because the dev is not following their demands.

For those people, I'm actually tempted to say they should try out games like The House in Fata Morgana, a great game but has zero sex scenes

You would be mistaken, Hillside does have sex scenes in it. One is with Lucy and the other is with Kaylah. Also Hillside was released in 2020.