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- Like I said there could be more than one poison that was used and was most likely that. The whole thing about being resistant to poison is being resistant to more than one.
- If what Wilfred said was true about him being able to know everything in the house if he so wished, and the MC was being monitored as a child then they mush have noticed something about him. Stomach pains, headaches, unusual weaknesses injecting poison like that isn't easy on the body. And if it was just one poison then Wilfred is fucked because it's one poison, he would know which poison was used. And if MC's mother was known to have used poison, it wouldn't be too far fetched of a possibility for her to make her son resistant to most if not all current ones, and Wilfred would realize that and just check inside the house at least a few times.
- And they would check inside the house at least once if they have monitored him for so long, either way. Maybe that is why he was sent to the private school?
- I'll give you the one about poison (a big maybe he didn't know), but this, you are simply being silly. I am just spitballing here, but who was actually able to detect her? Like maybe he was a person with much less experience than Wilfred, but I just cant remember who? Unless the DeLucas are all so bad at detecting things and that is why they haven't found the cameras MC placed yet.The fact that someone from the most skilled assassins managed to sneak in, is suspicious?
Given that they're the best assassins, sneaking in is probably standard M.O.
I don't think it's suspicious at all that Wilfred (or anyone else) didn't detect her.
- And just by being from the most skilled assassin family doesn't necessary mean they are actually skilled enough to just enter the top family's house just like that and be detected by the MC who inside that house is the second least threatening person there only above Isabel. Cordia, Wilfred, Antonio, Luna are simply much more skilled for him to be able to defeat them and Gracie is just dangerous af.
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I wish Season 2 will have more luna content, she is the best written character, the other two are just tropes
Just started the game and I'm a bit confused about how the MC naming works. As you specifically get the option to choose first and last name, I was kinda surprised that characters were refering to the MC as Mr. <first name>. Shouldn't it be Mr. <last name>/Mr. <full name>, or am I missunderstanding something?
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Problem here is, you can train for some posion resistance, but you some poison don't act like that and you can't build up a resitance.
Therefore, if the culpirt know that the MC has some poison resistance (and would be intelligent about it). Then only two case exist: He want the MC dead or he don't want the MC dead and only want to show whatever he wants.
If you go with the first case, then you would either use a concentration that even kill the elephant or just use a poison that is know that you can't build up a resistance for it - and even then you could use a dose way over the LD50.
For the later case the MC poison resistance is mostly irrelevant. You would use a dose that is sure to not cause the death of the MC. For that you can use every poison in the right dose without knowing of the MC resistance. If you aren't nasty, you would use a poison that don't have a long time accumulation effect.
Also if you want to come to a near dead situtation for the MC, you would need to know a lot about the poison you use and the MC (eg. his weight). So using a poison that you know the MC has a resistance to it, would bring you another variable into the calculation (restiance level), thus making the choice for the right dose more complicated than needed.
Canelony? He has one skill and that is his beard, false, we mean stealth. As far as we remembered, his skill level is so high that is it Serpent level. And all, even Wilfred, have multiple time think that Canelony died in a mission because of that. Also from skill level side, only Cordia may be Serpent level. Wilfred, Antonio, Isabel, Luna, Gracie and MC are not - at least to our knowledge. Some of them may have Serpent potential, but they aren't yet on Serpent level.
So in this world, with the Delcua world logic, we think that isn't that unbelievable that they may not have detected the assasin. Also, if we are not wrong, it was stated that they sense a enemy by its killing intent. So, why could anyone beside the MC sense that, when they weren't her target?
Damn, HG really going all out" wanna threesome? Oh yeah, you like that, don't you.. But first, let me make your life depressed."
8 months later, a full main story update comes, the room doesn't even take 5 minutes, I think the giant screwed it up.....
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Yes, I answered. The delay between the shot that hit Gracie, in slow motion, and the moment where the windows exploded is limited to the instant needed for someone to jump on his feet. And when this someone is the Blizzard Queen, this instant is below one tenth of second.
What doesn't mean that Gracie wasn't hit by a single shot. But it also clearly mean that, unlike what you said, the assailants haven't waited a single second before opening full fire. Then, due to the aiming and precision capabilities offered by an assault rifle, even when turned in single shoot, if the assailants were outside the perimeter like you said, and the shot that hit Gracie was lucky. Or it was effectively an aimed shot, like you also say, and therefore the assailants were at really short range.
You are kidding, right ? Why the fucking fuck would you want to help me ?
No one is here to prove that he's right, and even less that the other is wrong. Breaking news, there's 95% chances that everyone is wrong ; and I said it explicitly twice.
This is nothing more than an opened debate on a public forum. I don't care this much what you think, and you should care even less what I think. We discuss to share our point of view, and to get from other perspectives what we can possibly have missed. This while feeding readers' thoughts. Everything else is just useless vanity.
Hell, you don't even know what are my effective thoughts regarding this scene. All you know is that I said, "you are wrong", to someone stating that there's no way that it can be the Ombra, then explaining why. But believing that it's what I think happened would be presumptuous. I'm just debating, and there's no debate if you don't present opposing arguments to feed the others thoughts and, in return, have yours fed.
And to prefer the T box at short and really short range (where he was) when the target need to be incapacitated. Especially when it's a static target, what Gracie was.
What goes back to my questions, why not kill Gracie, and if really he didn't knew better, why not effectively aim for the heart, that was an easy target at this range ? A mourning Cordia would have been less dangerous than a really angry Cordia ; they know it, they already faced a mourning Cordia in the past (it's a gift for you, another overview on my effective thoughts).
Thanks you for this marvelous schema showing that the shot missed the heart by a hand... Wait, isn't it what I said ?
And kudo for your dedication in order to find a too centered representation of the heart.
Why are you forgetting the part where I said that the property is full of trees (that offer perfect cover) and surrounded by a two meters wall (that prevent any shooting above short range) ? But I guess that they disguised themselves as workers, and carried step ladders to conceal their assault rifles.
Well, I guess that it answer my indirect question above.
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Be noted that there's also the houses all around that add to the difficulty of the task.
Shooting from the other side of the wall imply that the Capos/Soldatos/Gents living in those houses can shoot you in the back without problems, and while having full cover since they are inside their house. While shooting from inside the property mean that you have the wall to cover your back.
To some extend, you can also fire from a car, the alley to the house is straight as far as I remember. But I guess that, if you can see the windows from the car, Antonio would have seen the car from his window.
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just coming here to say that expecting save compatibility from a single dev who works on a game in his free time is a bit too much when even big gamedev companies
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Just feels weird I guess, again what I wrote about the culprit I pretty much stated that it wasn't Wilfred probably, but the most clues point out to him until we learn more. I still believe that the ones who attacked the MC just wanted to scare him, since according to Gracie they used a 'lethal amount to kill a human'.
Again as you said they could have just used an amount that would kill an elephant or something, if they wanted to kill him, so why risk something like that? Still feels like they wanted to scare him with a 'human killing amount' since they knew it would not in fact kill him. And if you think about it it leaves a lot of questions.
Who made the meal?
Who delivered it?
Could have someone noticed something?
Meh, we'll see.
I was being sarcastic and thinking about the MC when I said I can't remember who not Joey. I was thinking that the MC doesn't have more skill than Wilfred. We don't know the layout of the MC's room, but since it was a bathroom highly doubt there were windows and you tell me Wilfred wouldn't know that someone has entered the house.
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It is your own prerogative what criteria to set if you want to play games. But games in development will have bugs, will have retcons, and yes, often will have save game troubles. If you can't handle the broken saves, you indeed should stay out of the "in development" section. Mechanics change necessitating major changes or just plain simple errors will happen all the time - one-person hobby dev or multi million AAA company, and to expect otherwise is naive at best.
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If I am correct about that one I think I wrote about his mother giving him more than one poison to build up resistance. Based on what? First of all it is a theory and second... common sense? Why build a resistance against one poison, it makes no sense at all. If it makes sense to build resistance against one poison among of all the possible choices then it is my fault and you are a being beyond my comprehension so I am sorry o Mighty One. I guess they just use 1 poison in the mafia world...
Same answer as before, just tell my why does it make sense to be resistant to one type of poison if one is trying to build resistance against poison? Unless as I mentioned a few times only one poison exists in DeLuca world or MC simply got lucky with the type of poison, which is simply dumb as fuck from a writing standpoint. We can almost be 100% sure that a truly deathly poison like 'Cyanide' wasn't used since there are in fact poisons like it that you simply can't build resistances from no matter how much you try. The amount used for the MC was lethal to humans so he would have died if something without resistance was used.
Everyone says he is important to the DeLucas, so maybe that is why? Wouldn't you check on a child that is extremely important to your family? And would it be that difficult for them to do it? They did say he was monitored ever since he was a child, and you say they haven't at least once checked his in-house situation? Unless, they saw him once in a playground and said "Bro this kid is going to become a god" then fair enough you were right. Again it is a theory and common sense, if they in fact monitored him ever since he was a child. That means a prolonged period of time not just once.
No one? How about the MC, he detected her way before she was inside his room at least 40-60 seconds before that? If we had more info it would make more sense, I guess. Was he awake or no? When did he detect her? How long did it take him to set up his trap? How long did he wait? If she was close to his room why didn't she hear him move from his bed in the dead of the night? As you said she comes from the most skilled of assassins, shouldn't good hearing be one of the most basic skills an assassin should have?
Unless there is a window inside his room in which case MC wouldn't be able to hear her at all until she was pretty much next to it, she is a top assassin, there is no echo outside and if she was being careful then she would not be heard at all until she touched the window.
No one mentioned any radars, but again more information on how everything was done would be helpful. Presumably in their rooms. But what if Wilfred was not, if you can tell me who am I to assume shit who are you to assume he was not? If you look closely their conversation lasted a up to a minute, max two.
If Wilfred was in his room as you said, you are going to tell me that he woke up and dressed up in a few second at around the time when the MC pointed the gun at Eiza and came inside that short span of time. He was properly dressed and his clothes are not really the ones a person can quickly put on.
That whole conversation didn't last that long. Unless Wilfred sleeps dressed.
But one thing you wrote here was super funny I simply need to quote it, "MC detecting her when she exposed herself to kill him (in HIS room)" so you say he noticed her only when she exposed herself in HIS room, that is what you wrote not me.
So yeah I apologize, clearly in a split second the MC made a trap and 'waited for her' as he said, at the time she exposed herself. I mean it makes sense he did all that in 1 second. I have to hand it off to you that makes so much sense. It's sarcasm, since you can't clearly understand it.
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First of all never said hired by DeLucas, but Wilfred. Cordia is THE Deluca and Wilfred is known to act by himself. And again she couldn't have made to his room undetected as he was 'prepared' for her, he couldn't have prepared that quickly. MC said he waited for her. You said MC discovered her by the time she was INSIDE his room and if he discovered her by the time she was behind his door, or maybe window, he wouldn't have enough time to prepare or at least she would be able to hear him move being top assassin and all.Jesus wept, she's from the most skilled assassins in the DeLuca world.
But no, of course someone would spot her, because she's just that shit at her job.
Maybe that's why she subsequently got hired by DeLuca's, because she's so shit at her job?
No. They hired her because she'd proven herself adept at her job.
She got inside the house and made it to MC's room undetected, because that's what she's been trained to do, by the best in the business.
