Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[c3p0]

i love the art

As I've seen you know in two threads with similar comments. Do you know you can just watch a thread by clicking on the watch button in the upper right?

 

[TimHawk]

still... they are different
as luna said
'wilfred's devision'
picked and trained by wilfred himself after they reached the highest rank (capo)
only do s rank missions

if that is not considered a promotion then i don't know what is

Aye and on the "save Eizas's sister mission", which exceeds S-Rank both Capos and Gents are part of the crew.

You could be totally right and there is a different level of respect and prestige, that we havent seen yet, between those 2 Ranks, maybe we can ask Hope when he opens the next Q&A if there is a difference in authority between the two.

 

[ArtKing22]

Aye and on the "save Eizas's sister mission", which exceeds S-Rank both Capos and Gents are part of the crew.

You could be totally right and there is a different level of respect and prestige, that we havent seen yet, between those 2 Ranks, maybe we can ask Hope when he opens the next Q&A if there is a difference in authority between the two.

yep
and on Antonio's mission, we've seen that there were no Gents whatsoever
only capo's
so i can only assume that it wasn't s ranked mission
and as we've seen so far
even tho capo is the "highest" rank in mafia families
there are special ranks out there
like serpents in the deluca family
or sterling rank in the silverino family

and we know that capos and serpents are nothing alike

so i believe that Gent is a special rank just like those but not the same

and when they mentioned the Gents they said that they are ex-capos
which means that now they are something else, better ,because no one wants a demotion

 

[TimHawk]

yep
and on Antonio's mission, we've seen that there were no Gents whatsoever
only capo's
so i can only assume that it wasn't s ranked mission
and as we've seen so far
even tho capo is the "highest" rank in mafia families
there are special ranks out there
like serpents in the deluca family
or sterling rank in the silverino family

and we know that capos and serpents are nothing alike

so i believe that Gent is a special rank just like those but not the same

and when they mentioned the Gents they said that they are ex-capos
which means that now they are something else, better ,because no one wants a demotion

Or a lateral move that is better suited to their skillset.

I wonder if it's also related to certain promotion paths. Like Wilfred seems to be grooming Gildart as the next consigliere and the next Capo Bastione would then come from the Capo ranks ? We know Serpents are discovered and groomed but it would be interessting to get answers to all those questions.

The whole universe is really fascinating and I can't wait for Hope to give us more insight, preferably without creating 50 new questions in the process

 

[ArtKing22]

Or a lateral move that is better suited to their skillset.

I wonder if it's also related to certain promotion paths. Like Wilfred seems to be grooming Gildart as the next consigliere and the next Capo Bastione would then come from the Capo ranks ? We know Serpents are discovered and groomed but it would be interessting to get answers to all those questions.

The whole universe is really fascinating and I can't wait for Hope to give us more insight, preferably without creating 50 new questions in the process

no i have a strong feeling that wilfred wants Grace to be the next Consigliere.
its seems that her mind works like his..
they can almost predect the future and make perfect plans (almost)
thats why he is training her (secretly)

but its still fun to discuss these things and make theories about them lol

 

[c3p0]

I see the Gent is as some kind of "special force" picked from the capos. Thus, in rang they might not be higher, but would still have a higher authority in a joint operation.

 

[TimHawk]

no i have a strong feeling that wilfred wants Grace to be the next Consigliere.
its seems that her mind works like his..
they can almost predect the future and make perfect plans (almost)
thats why he is training her (secretly)

but its still fun to discuss these things and making theories lol

I think his masterplan for Gracie is to have her form a team with the MC and groom those two to handle all future planning duties eventually.

We still don't know why Cordia was not afraid for Gracie but of what she might do once she joins the family, so I think Cordia will try to keep Gracie as far away from weapons or violence as she can.

 

[ArtKing22]

I see the Gent is as some kind of "special force" picked from the capos. Thus, in rang they might not be higher, but would still have a higher authority in a joint operation.

just like Gildart is the (team leader) within the Gents
he is still a Gent just like them
but he have a special authority and privileges (he knows more stuff like the situation with the MC , and wilfred trains him out of all the other Gents)

 

[TimHawk]

I see the Gent is as some kind of "special force" picked from the capos. Thus, in rang they might not be higher, but would still have a higher authority in a joint operation.

Yea like I said, I too see them as a action/reaction force like Navy Seals or Rangers, seperated from rank but more training and more specific missions.

 

[ArtKing22]

in the end that is considered something higher/better

 

[ArtKing22]

I think his masterplan for Gracie is to have her form a team with the MC and groom those two to handle all future planning duties eventually.

We still don't know why Cordia was not afraid for Gracie but of what she might do once she joins the family, so I think Cordia will try to keep Gracie as far away from weapons or violence as she can.

the key to solving Grace and Cordia's mystery is "Lumina"
as soon as we know who Lumina is, we will know why Cordia is afraid of Grace's talent.

 

[TimHawk]

the key to solving Grace and Cordia's mystery is "Lumina"
as soon as we know who Lumina is, we will know why Cordia is afraid from Grace's talent.

So far Hope seems to have put her on the sociopath scale, she is scary detached from her feelings and only logic can sway her one way or the other.

From "she wants to have Antonios undivided attention" to "having no use for Antonio".
From "hating Isabel for stealing her brother" to "Isabel being her beloved big sister".
From "wanting friends" to "having no use for them".

She seems to be incapeable of empathy, everyone and everything seems to be just another variable for her. She is one scary girl, that is for damn sure.

 

[ArtKing22]

So far Hope seems to have put her on the sociopath scale, she is scary detached from her feelings and only logic can sway her one way or the other.

From "she wants to have Antonios undivided attention" to "having no use for Antonio".
From "hating Isabel for stealing her brother" to "Isabel being her beloved big sister".
From "wanting friends" to "having no use for them".

She seems to be incapeable of empathy, everyone and everything seems to be just another variable for her. She is one scary girl, that is for damn sure.

which raises the following question.

was Lumina part of the original 4 serpents who betrayed Cordia?
was she the mastermind because she is the same as Grace changing sides quickly without even a drop of emotion.
or i should say Grace is the same as her. in term of thinking logic and don't understand human feelings and incapeable of empathy

thats why Cordia is afraid of her?

 

[TimHawk]

which raises the following question

was Lumina part of the original 4 serpents who betrayed Cordia?
was she the mastermind because she is the same as Grace
or i should say Grace is the same as her. in term of thinking logic and don't understand human feelings and incapeable of empathy

thats why Cordia is afraid of her?

I wish I could answer that, but I really have no clue. It's certainly related in one way or the other and Lumina must've done something truely horrific to have rattled Cordia that much and for that long.

 

[ArtKing22]

My Personal Thoughts :

Grace gets shot during family dinner / lunch, in front of everybody, same as our MC getting poisoned. There is a "mole" in DeLuca family just like the Kashker family (MC's friend Jay's family).

That forgettable Joe or whatever his name was, is a member of Mysterious Six that kidnapped Luna (baby) and made her kill daddy. He even has kept his beard.

Wilfred is a part of bigger conspiracy and he's busy playing several sides of this mafia game simultaneously. He's cold, ruthless and nasty even for Cordia's standards. He'd torture and almost kill his students in the name of brutal training.

Gracie's always fooling everyone especially her sister playing a victim since childhood, to get whatever she wants. She wants to go on missions and after getting discovered by none other than Wilfred she's a new plan.

the MC's poison came from within.. no doubt about that
but Grace's shot was an all out attack on the family
so its not a mole situation.

as for Joey.. he is without a doubt wilfred's son

as for wilfred.. he is willing to eliminate all the families for The deluca family
he is the most loyal person to the family in my opinion
so there is no way he would do anything against the Deluca
he would kill anyone in the name of the ((Deluca family))

and if you read his description
likes_ Delucas
dislikes_non-Delucas
its as simple as that.

 

[c3p0]

as for wilfred.. he is willing to eliminate all the families for The deluca family
he is the most loyal person to the family in my opinion
so there is no way he would do anything against the Deluca
he would kill anyone in the name of the ((Deluca family))

and if you read his description
likes_ Delucas
dislikes_non-Delucas
its as simple as that.

Agreed, he won't betray the Delucas. Yet, what he thinks should be done and what Cordia think should be done are two different things. So, although I don't doubt that he won't betray the Delucas, I also think he will do whatever should be done, in his mind, so the Delucas can prosper.

 

[ArtKing22]

Agreed, he won't betray the Delucas. Yet, what he thinks should be done and what Cordia think should be done are two different things. So, although I don't doubt that he won't betray the Delucas, I also think he will do whatever should be done, in his mind, so the Delucas can prosper.

all part of his "Controling nature" as the MC Phrased it
sure he would do anything
he would kill a friend
a family
as long as they are not Delucas
he would even kill a kid if he thought that he would posses a threat to the family in the future
just like the situation with Fawkes.
but in the end everything he do is for the sake of the family regardless the method

 

[Fajlar6]

for now we haven't seen none.
only time would tell...
lets wait and see.
they still have aloooot to cover before getting into those.


besides
if you look closely at the 4 serpents
you'll notice that
Gottardo looks like a Delinquent/Thug so maybe he has his own gang
Serpent is an assassin / spy / sniper
i can only assume that Cynthia is the mother superior of the church (Because Amata is a nun and she looks up to her)
so who knows .. maybe the 4th serpent is a cop or a detective.
that would be cool

Hmm,, ok. Thanks for the answer

(I wanna make fanfiction story about this game, as I always told on/in The Discord server and here... And made my own MC become a Delinquents)

(Is it okay though,, to make it here?)

 

[Fajlar6]

all part of his "Controling nature" as the MC Phrased it
sure he would do anything
he would kill a friend
a family
as long as they are not Delucas
he would even kill a kid if he thought that he would posses a threat to the family in the future
just like the situation with Fawkes.
but in the end everything he do is for the sake of the family regardless the method

Correct (I agree)

 

[SuperiorManUltra]

My Personal Thoughts :

Grace gets shot during family dinner / lunch, in front of everybody, same as our MC getting poisoned. There is a "mole" in DeLuca family just like the Kashker family (MC's friend Jay's family).

That forgettable Joe or whatever his name was, is a member of Mysterious Six that kidnapped Luna (baby) and made her kill daddy. He even has kept his beard.

Wilfred is a part of bigger conspiracy and he's busy playing several sides of this mafia game simultaneously. He's cold, ruthless and nasty even for Cordia's standards. He'd torture and almost kill his students in the name of brutal training.

Gracie's always fooling everyone especially her sister playing a victim since childhood, to get whatever she wants. She wants to go on missions and after getting discovered by none other than Wilfred she's a new plan.

Agreed, Grace getting shot could be her own planing gone wrong. Maybe.
Wilfred is undoubtedly one of the most Shaddy characters in this game. He's a king / Queen maker.
Joe has exceptional Stealth skills far beyond any trained assassin, yet he is almost never serious during mission unlike other DeLuca Capo. He's always acting stupid especially in front of higher ups. Yet a mysterious six member feels a bit of a stretch.
Cordia has no character development - almost. Her story isn't getting much importance.