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HopesGaming

The Godfather
Game Developer
Dec 21, 2017
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It should be 100% in this forum because it's a porn game. And trust me i am not complaing about the game story or sex scene. When i comented about the MC getting sex scene with main chick by 2030 it was suppose to be a funny comment.

And also i appreciate the game you are making. I was planing to support the game but you got famous pretty quickly. I don't support famous game cause my support doesn't make any differnece on weather the game live or die. If a game got famous i am getting it free anyway. I try to support small game which might not make it (that's not working for me very well though:confused:).

personally i don't think you should make a porn game for 10 year (cause it seems like this game is going on 10 year roadmap). But my opinion that matter is completly irrelevant. That is between you and the people who support the game. I Just don't think you should level it as a story game when clearly its not.
It's good to see you support new devs. That is always something that is respectable.
Season 1 is concluded, in which it has always been story before sex. Season 2 is where it gets ramped up and all the girls will have their sex. This is something that is known in the community.
It has been slow with how it has been going, that is true. Even the many regular members of the game has been vocal about. That is something that is in need of change and will for sure be once the game gets released on steam.

I label it as an adult game that is focused on the story. That is what I believe it is.
 

xvertion121

Member
Sep 3, 2017
366
387
(Cutting out nonsense like "Stockholm syndrome" or "putting on a pedestal")

First, there is no hypocrisy at all. You may express your true feelings, of course, but the assumption that the situation is "overdue" is just plain wrong. That might be how you want to see it, but it is not in any way what was told to everybody from the start what this game would be about. It's like a singer announcing an instrumental and you keep crying that the lyrics need to start - yes, most songs have lyrics, but not all, and you have been told before that this one wouldn't.

And what "adult" should mean, well, we can talk about this forever, because "should" is just a personal opinion. An adult game does mean a game with adult content that isn't suitable for minors. Which doesn't have to be sex by the way, could also be violence (though less likely on this forum). But not every game that includes adult content is all about seeing the adult content. That is not "changing definitions", you are trying to apply your own understanding to an established concept which exists in other media for decades (film) to centuries (printed books, images, etc.)



Funny thing, over here the sky indeed is rarely blue. It's mostly grey-ish (and obviously black at night).



(a) I doubt your "90%" statistic heavily. Do you have anything even remotely reasonable to support that? Because my guess (which is just as unsubstantiated) would be that most of those who want a porn game just moved on to actual porn games.

(b) A game (or anything else) including something does not mean it is mainly about that stuff. It may just be a seasoning of some kind. As has been said from the start, porn will not be a focus of this game. But your comparison to onlyfan models is actually astonishingly apt. They might be in it for some easy money and they might show some lewdness - however that does not give you the right to complain if they don't put a 20 inch dildo up their ass (unless they promised to do so). They can decide what they do and you can enjoy it or leave it be. You do not have any right to tell them what to do. Neither do you have any right to complain that a game doesn't include enough sex for you when it was communicated clearly that it won't.
Wow Dude
(Cutting out nonsense like "Stockholm syndrome" or "putting on a pedestal")

First, there is no hypocrisy at all. You may express your true feelings, of course, but the assumption that the situation is "overdue" is just plain wrong. That might be how you want to see it, but it is not in any way what was told to everybody from the start what this game would be about. It's like a singer announcing an instrumental and you keep crying that the lyrics need to start - yes, most songs have lyrics, but not all, and you have been told before that this one wouldn't.

And what "adult" should mean, well, we can talk about this forever, because "should" is just a personal opinion. An adult game does mean a game with adult content that isn't suitable for minors. Which doesn't have to be sex by the way, could also be violence (though less likely on this forum). But not every game that includes adult content is all about seeing the adult content. That is not "changing definitions", you are trying to apply your own understanding to an established concept which exists in other media for decades (film) to centuries (printed books, images, etc.)



Funny thing, over here the sky indeed is rarely blue. It's mostly grey-ish (and obviously black at night).



(a) I doubt your "90%" statistic heavily. Do you have anything even remotely reasonable to support that? Because my guess (which is just as unsubstantiated) would be that most of those who want a porn game just moved on to actual porn games.

(b) A game (or anything else) including something does not mean it is mainly about that stuff. It may just be a seasoning of some kind. As has been said from the start, porn will not be a focus of this game. But your comparison to onlyfan models is actually astonishingly apt. They might be in it for some easy money and they might show some lewdness - however that does not give you the right to complain if they don't put a 20 inch dildo up their ass (unless they promised to do so). They can decide what they do and you can enjoy it or leave it be. You do not have any right to tell them what to do. Neither do you have any right to complain that a game doesn't include enough sex for you when it was communicated clearly that it won't.
Ha ha, At this point you are just making argument to win. When i say sky is blue you know what i mean by that. About my 90% stat. That's my asumption, sure i could be wrong but you would at least agree that most people (meaning more then 50%) play this game as porn game for sex scene.

And nobody is complaining about what only fan girls are doing. My whole point was if you don't want to be called sex worker then don't do stuff on onlyfan and if you don't want to label your game as porn game then don't put sex scene in it.

Cause if you do those thing people 100% rightfully label you as sex worker and your game as a porn game. And if you want to think that this is story game and only fan models vargin then good for you. I am happy for you But don't get mad at people when they label a porn game as a porn game.
 

Cartageno

Devoted Member
Dec 1, 2019
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Wow Dude


Ha ha, At this point you are just making argument to win. When i say sky is blue you know what i mean by that. About my 90% stat. That's my asumption, sure i could be wrong but you would at least agree that most people (meaning more then 50%) play this game as porn game for sex scene.

And nobody is complaining about what only fan girls are doing. My whole point was if you don't want to be called sex worker then don't do stuff on onlyfan and if you don't want to label your game as porn game then don't put sex scene in it.

Cause if you do those thing people 100% rightfully label you as sex worker and your game as a porn game. And if you want to think that this is story game and only fan models vargin then good for you. I am happy for you But don't get mad at people when they label a porn game as a porn game.
Oh, you might label it all you want. That's fine by me, after all everybody has their own understanding when pop turns rock or rock turns metal. What's just not correct is using your own understanding of what somebody does to try and get them to do something they never wanted to do with their understanding. If you think onlyfans is sex work (personally I see several steps inbetween), great. But that does not mean they need to do anything to somehow complete the picture.

The dev Hopes told from the beginning what this game would be about. If you call that a porn game, okay, your prerogative - I will still claim you're wrong, but whatever. However just because he started making a game which you classify as a porn game does not mean he does have to complete in any way what else you understand by that. As Hopes said he has an idea of what he wants to do, regardless of how you and I would put it into categories. Just because we may (or may not) feel the need to put a label onto something does not mean we have any reason to expect what we personally associate with that label from somebody else. Even less so if they already told us that certain things are not what their game is about.

As for the other stuff: my comment about the sky being blue was intended as a joke, but I do indeed doubt that "more than 50%" play it for the porn as such. As I said, it might have started out that way some day back in 2018 - but with everything that was said back then and since then, with everything in the game, most people who wanted a game like that just moved on because this is not gonna be the game - ever. People who still play it play it for what it is and enjoy it for what it is. I may be wrong in this assumption, but again whatever: Hopes has an idea of what he wants to do. We may disagree with that it is a good idea. But if he wants to roll with it we have no right whatsoever to tell him otherwise.
 

greenjf

Member
Sep 23, 2020
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I'm running into a weird bug. I go to load a save and it loads me into the town free roam. it does not matter what save I load, I'm back pretty much at the beginning where I did it(new playthrough).
 

Boehser Onkel

Forum Fanatic
Modder
Feb 20, 2021
4,091
6,158
I'm running into a weird bug. I go to load a save and it loads me into the town free roam. it does not matter what save I load, I'm back pretty much at the beginning where I did it(new playthrough).
actually no ... sadly

its a bug related to the gameplay
if you had chosen "full experience" you stuck and have to start over
oh , and dont use "full experience" for now

OR

i have a workaround for my game with this - using URM


turn this

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to this , before talking to wilfred

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after this activate "true" again

its better to start over
if chose full experience , make this steps above talking to wilfred - tested and works
the only part which is bugged is the freeroam lucania part
the forum has a search function and a scrollbar ...
 

Boehser Onkel

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Modder
Feb 20, 2021
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minor bug HopesGaming

Screenshot_4.png
c0704_1

default lunaFearlessSerpentF = False
label lunaFearlessSerpent:
hide screen click_screen
hide screen click_screen2
stop music fadeout 3
image a250322_1="Free roaming/Luna/Fearless Serpent/a250322_1.jpg"
scene a250322_1 with slowfadeboth
lu "Mhm."

idk why this render is called there

edit : found it


label Electric_Control:
$_game_menu_screen = "save"
hide screen DisableQuickSave
$ config.rollback_enabled = True
$config.has_autosave = True
$config.autosave_on_quit = True
$config.autosave_on_choice = True
hide screen missionEvents
stop music fadeout 2
image a250322_1="Free roaming/Adventure/Events/Elektra/a0704_1.jpg"

label Electric_Control2:
$_game_menu_screen = "save"
hide screen DisableQuickSave
$ config.rollback_enabled = True
$config.has_autosave = True
$config.autosave_on_quit = True
$config.autosave_on_choice = True
hide screen missionEvents
image a250322_1="Free roaming/Adventure/Events/Elektra/b0704_1.jpg"

label Electric_Control3:
$_game_menu_screen = "save"
hide screen DisableQuickSave
$ config.rollback_enabled = True
$config.has_autosave = True
$config.autosave_on_quit = True
$config.autosave_on_choice = True
hide screen missionEvents
image a250322_1="Free roaming/Adventure/Events/Elektra/c0704_1.jpg"




............ after correcting this ones , its calling now a isabel picture(a15993_1.jpg) .... :unsure: :unsure: :rolleyes:

label TriaQuaedam:
stop music fadeout 2
image a250322_1="Free roaming/Isabel/QuestLine6/a15993_1.jpg"
scene a15993_1 with slowfadeboth
pov "You wanted to speak with me?"


edit2 : thats all , correcting this ones calls now the right render at start of Fearless Serpent

Screenshot_5.png



wrong name - its isabella (tria quaedam)

Screenshot_2.png
 
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ed3k47

Newbie
Aug 7, 2018
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In the gallery, under replays for Cordia, mine is still greyed out. I was wondering if there are any replays for Cordia? I have all the others open, but hers, and I am not sure if I missed something or there are just no replays for Cordia yet. Also, in the contracts/missions, I have 100% in everyone.
 
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