Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[DNS01W]

So, instead of just moving on from a game you didn't like previously, you felt compelled to try it again (without even checking if it had gotten a rewrite that you desperately want? lol also why would it even be rewritten?

The reason I didn't ''moved on" is because of all of the people that made outrageous claims that after checking are just not related to reality.

When reading all the fawning reviews and post after post about how incredible the story is, how magnificient the story, how marvelous and grand it is, how emotional, how deeply felt the narrative is, the game play, the settings, one of the best games ever if not the very best on this forum..... how much more checking should I do before trying it again for myself?

If you try a dish in a restaurant and it's not to your taste and years later you hear from lots of people how fantastic the dish is .... and it being typically a dish that you love... if you are an adult you'll give it a second chance because perhaps you just had the dish on the chef's off day or perhaps they changed the recipe or perhaps your palette was of.... and then you go and taste it and it's slimey, putrid, smells funky.... I for one push back so that others don't have to endure that experience.

If you can't cope with someone listing glaring errors, mistakes, bugs, unfinished options, plain sillyness and story lines that one wouldn't accept from a 8 year old, in other words facts about this game it's not me that has a problem. Perhaps time to grab a mirror and take a long hard look.

Tastes differ. Sure. Not everyone finds the same things funny or pretty or great. However this isn't about taste but about being an adult. And please, don't start about it being a slow burn. I have no problem with slow burns, for a story to work your audience has to get invested in the characters and most of the games that I love take awhile for things to start to happen. But for a slow burn to work you need the audience/player get invested in the characters and they have to actually portray their character in their actions and their dialog. This game has lots of text but never the less it doesn't really flesh out the characters at least not in a believable manner.

Its kind of telling that the 'fans' of this game instead of addressing the points of critique they rather dismiss any criticism to protect the dev. I can only presume that all those people are suffering from sunk cost. Here's an idea for you, if you want to improve something you first have to acknowledge that there is a problem.

Why would it be rewritten asked JJJ184? Because the story doesn't make sense. The characters don't make sense. The stageing doesn't make sense. The lore doesn't make sense. The renders, pretty I give you that, don't make sense in the story.

By the by, all of you that think this game is a 5 star (or anything more then 2 star) game because of the marvelous writing... is there truly not a single one of you that pointed out the glaring grammatical error in the very first line of text which has been present now for FIVE years? English isn't my 1st language either but common guys.... is your bar really that low? And no, it's far from the only fault that can't be blamed on a typo.

 

[c3p0]

Well, the restaurant compare lacks at best. In the restaurant the chef can have a bad day, the ingredient can be bad - althought that goes on the chef - ...

A line of text is the same line of text in any day in any year until it is changed. And thinking that a book, game, whatever, even a recipe should be change, only because you don't like it, your self-opinionated surely isn't lacking.
For grammar errors, I would, if I found them, point it out to the dev, here, in his (public) discord or as a DM. For all other things it is simple a take it or leave it situation. Either you're happy with it and take or not, and at the end leave it. Sure, you can wrote an essay how the game should be, but if the dev or author see it different, than thats it. The character, at least my point of view, were always exaggerated and more on the anime/manga site of a caricature rather than a as near as possible lifelike description.

 

[Stil996]

DNS01W
It's been a while since I played this game and I have a bad habit of skipping text but even I can see some glaring issues with your post, hopefully this might help you understand why you got so many facepalms.

First line of text : "Warning : This game is of fiction.Any names,characters, places events and incidents are either made up or done in a fictitious manner"

5 years and so far no one, absolutely no one, has even bothered to actually write that first sentence in a way that isn't completely against all grammatical rules.

Probably because almost nobody ever reads that stuff except for the occasional pedantic with OCD.

The fantastic writing and story telling comes in full view as soon as the driver mentions that the brakes of the car don't work, he steps out to see what's wrong only to come back because he 'realises' that he has no clue how to fix anything on the car no matter what's wrong with it. And that's the effing professional driver? Yeah, great writing.
The dev then demonstrates that he probably has no driverslicense because he certainly doesn't know anything about cars believing that a parking brake can substitute for normal brakes and that any self respecting professional driver of a wealthy family would drive under those conditions.

Who told you he was a professional driver? you rant over an assumption that nobody inferred! You even note yourself that he is the Consigliere... you later go onto to rant about why a Consigliere would perform the function of a driver... well the obvious reason that jumps to my mind is that he wants to assess an unknown who is about to live in close proximity to the Family VIPs, kinda important for the Family adviser to gain as much knowledge about such matters as he can don't you think?

You arrive at a mansion but your room has at one side a big drape instead of a wall with a door to access the bathroom. HUH?
I guess they ran out of money? Oh wait, it's a bathroom you actual share with one of the girls. Makes sense that in a MASION they would make it so that a lowly employee under contract (you) would share an unfinished bathroom with one of the daughters of the boss of the mob. REALLY? How much more ridiculous can you be?

IIRC it was clearly mentioned that the MC had been inserted into a part of the daughters private suite, forcing interactions between the MC and the girls, likely grooming them into a special relationship with MC (my guess is he is either the true heir to the family throne or to another house which they can join with in a political marriage)

To show that the girls are part of the mafia, you see in one room a bed surrounded with heavy weapons, because that's what maffia girls do, right? No it isn't funny, it's just silly and bizarre. In other words, really ridiculous.

Everyone has their hobbies, are you claiming there are no girls who are into guns? Not sure where you got that plural from, only one of them has this obsession.

Concerning the women :
Cordia : 49years old. Nevermind that even many a 30 year old would kill to look like her.
Makes me wonder if the dev ever saw a mature woman. Take any scene with Cordia and image that the dev told you that she is 21. Can you find any reason why she doesn't look like a 21yr old? Any? I certainly can't.

Further proof for the lack of believable ages is the character called Bianca who gets addressed by one of the recruits as 'mom' even although she clearly also isn't anywhere near middle aged. Here's a hint, the older you get the more wrinkles. Being in your 40's and not even have 'laugh' lines or a hint of crowsfeet in the corners of your eyes is extremely unlikely.

I know women in real life who are well into their fifties who don't have any wrinkles and they are "normal" woman who work for a living, Cordia is a wealthy, powerful woman who doesn't need to take a step into skin damaging sunlight if she doesn't want to, she has more than enough money for "Plastic Surgery"/Botox/"Mythical Deaging drugs."... + this a porn game... all of these things say her face can be as smooth as she likes
(And this is from a guy who tends prefer mature women that look their age)

 

[JJJ84]

Oh boy.

Let's go through your post bit by bit, shall we?

The reason I didn't ''moved on" is because of all of the people that made outrageous claims that after checking are just not related to reality.

When reading all the fawning reviews and post after post about how incredible the story is, how magnificient the story, how marvelous and grand it is, how emotional, how deeply felt the narrative is, the game play, the settings, one of the best games ever if not the very best on this forum..... how much more checking should I do before trying it again for myself?

If you try a dish in a restaurant and it's not to your taste and years later you hear from lots of people how fantastic the dish is .... and it being typically a dish that you love... if you are an adult you'll give it a second chance because perhaps you just had the dish on the chef's off day or perhaps they changed the recipe or perhaps your palette was of.... and then you go and taste it and it's slimey, putrid, smells funky.... I for one push back so that others don't have to endure that experience.

So you didn't like the game and felt the need to enlighten/educate others?
Goodness me, you're acting exactly like a certain character from the game;

Spoiler: Another example of a........savior lmao

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If you can't cope with someone listing glaring errors, mistakes, bugs, unfinished options, plain sillyness and story lines that one wouldn't accept from a 8 year old, in other words facts about this game it's not me that has a problem. Perhaps time to grab a mirror and take a long hard look.

Tastes differ. Sure. Not everyone finds the same things funny or pretty or great. However this isn't about taste but about being an adult. And please, don't start about it being a slow burn. I have no problem with slow burns, for a story to work your audience has to get invested in the characters and most of the games that I love take awhile for things to start to happen. But for a slow burn to work you need the audience/player get invested in the characters and they have to actually portray their character in their actions and their dialog. This game has lots of text but never the less it doesn't really flesh out the characters at least not in a believable manner.

I'll give you the bugs and unfinished options cause the game did have bugs that the dev and the coder quashed for the most part, and the VN experience mode isn't available yet.
But other than that, everything else you said in this part of the post is entirely subjective, heavily influenced by your own personal bias.
And you're saying the the characters are neither fleshed out nor are believable.
If that is what you believe then it is what it is for you, but saying it's "facts" about this game?

lol it looks like someone needs to practice what they preach (in terms of grabbing a mirror and taking a good long look at himself).

Its kind of telling that the 'fans' of this game instead of addressing the points of critique they rather dismiss any criticism to protect the dev. I can only presume that all those people are suffering from sunk cost. Here's an idea for you, if you want to improve something you first have to acknowledge that there is a problem.

lol has it really never occurred to you that we dismiss the said "criticisms" like the ones you're referring to cause, they're absurd, and are basically trolling, without even being remotely constructive nor being objective?
And no, not everyone who thinks this game is great are patrons; and if it wasn't already obvious enough already, f95zone is a pirate forum.
So you're way off base in regarding your "sunk cost" logic.

Why would it be rewritten asked JJJ184? Because the story doesn't make sense. The characters don't make sense. The stageing doesn't make sense. The lore doesn't make sense. The renders, pretty I give you that, don't make sense in the story.

Again, this is all subjective.

I'll pull up an example from another media, the John Wick films.
Many people love those films and think they are great.
But let's say hypothetically you have a different opinion about those films; You don't think they're realistic, the story doesn't make sense. The characters don't make sense. The stageing doesn't make sense. The lore doesn't make sense.

That's all fine and well if you think that to yourself, but saying it out loud (thumping your chest while you're at it lol) saying they're terrible movies as a "fact" cause you felt the need to "save" others who don't agree with you like our Filius in our screenshots above?

lmao, no thank you.
We can make our own minds regarding what we think is good or not, and we don't need any "saving" from you or anyone who thinks in the same mindset.

By the by, all of you that think this game is a 5 star (or anything more then 2 star) game because of the marvelous writing... is there truly not a single one of you that pointed out the glaring grammatical error in the very first line of text which has been present now for FIVE years? English isn't my 1st language either but common guys.... is your bar really that low? And no, it's far from the only fault that can't be blamed on a typo.

lol what are you even talking about?

The very first line of the game is the following;



There's nothing wrong with that line in neither grammar or spelling.
(but if you're referring to that Warning disclaimer before the game starts, lmao who cares about that little bit anyway that most people just tend to zip past or ignore? As Stil996 mentioned above, only someone who is occasional pedantic with OCD would care so much and categorize it as a huge issue)

And even if there was somehow an error in various parts of the game regarding spelling and grammar?
Well, English is my second language as well, but I'd say it's incredibly petty judging the quality of a game on that small aspect.
You saying that gives me the impression you're nitpicking just for the sake of nitpicking in order to bash this game in any way possible.

 

[Dragon59]

 

[Cartageno]

I know women in real life who are well into their fifties who don't have any wrinkles and they are "normal" woman who work for a living

Case in point an ex of mine. She was clearly older when we shared the bed, she is at least 15 years younger now ...

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But would this game be the same without them?

Though our mutual friend might still think we're just fanboying. But everything about that has already been tackled by this golden protocol robot here.

 

[Jimayo]

The reason I didn't ''moved on" is because of all of the people that made outrageous claims that after checking are just not related to reality.

When reading all the fawning reviews and post after post about how incredible the story is, how magnificient the story, how marvelous and grand it is, how emotional, how deeply felt the narrative is, the game play, the settings, one of the best games ever if not the very best on this forum..... how much more checking should I do before trying it again for myself?

If you try a dish in a restaurant and it's not to your taste and years later you hear from lots of people how fantastic the dish is .... and it being typically a dish that you love... if you are an adult you'll give it a second chance because perhaps you just had the dish on the chef's off day or perhaps they changed the recipe or perhaps your palette was of.... and then you go and taste it and it's slimey, putrid, smells funky.... I for one push back so that others don't have to endure that experience.

If you can't cope with someone listing glaring errors, mistakes, bugs, unfinished options, plain sillyness and story lines that one wouldn't accept from a 8 year old, in other words facts about this game it's not me that has a problem. Perhaps time to grab a mirror and take a long hard look.

Tastes differ. Sure. Not everyone finds the same things funny or pretty or great. However this isn't about taste but about being an adult. And please, don't start about it being a slow burn. I have no problem with slow burns, for a story to work your audience has to get invested in the characters and most of the games that I love take awhile for things to start to happen. But for a slow burn to work you need the audience/player get invested in the characters and they have to actually portray their character in their actions and their dialog. This game has lots of text but never the less it doesn't really flesh out the characters at least not in a believable manner.

Its kind of telling that the 'fans' of this game instead of addressing the points of critique they rather dismiss any criticism to protect the dev. I can only presume that all those people are suffering from sunk cost. Here's an idea for you, if you want to improve something you first have to acknowledge that there is a problem.

Why would it be rewritten asked JJJ184? Because the story doesn't make sense. The characters don't make sense. The stageing doesn't make sense. The lore doesn't make sense. The renders, pretty I give you that, don't make sense in the story.

By the by, all of you that think this game is a 5 star (or anything more then 2 star) game because of the marvelous writing... is there truly not a single one of you that pointed out the glaring grammatical error in the very first line of text which has been present now for FIVE years? English isn't my 1st language either but common guys.... is your bar really that low? And no, it's far from the only fault that can't be blamed on a typo.

That's a lot of text for arrogantly saying my opinion on what constitutes a good story and good vn is the only correct opinion and everyone who disagrees is incorrect.

And the fact a grammatical error is all it takes for you dismiss the wonderful story that this game has speaks volumes about who you are. Fun fact: Nobody else cares.

 

[rambo455]

so i was searching for the last update message on how the game is doing but cant seem to find it. am i just reading over it or is it really so far back ? (if its here at all)

 

[RicksTheBricks]

It doesn't seem like there's a solution for the problem I'm facing. Do I actually just have to restart and hope it doesn't happen again?

Hello, Sorry about the sudden message but I'm a newcomer to the game and I've recently come across this same problem. Did you manage to find a fix for it or did the starting a new save work? Respond when you can! Thanks.

 

[HornyyPussy]

Man, don't you just love dingbats that try to pass of their opinions as facts..............

 

[JJJ84]

Man, don't you just love dingbats that try to pass of their opinions as facts..............

Hopes putting that Filius scene in that game was a stroke of genius.
Now, whenever anyone tries to pass opinions as facts, we can poke fun at them using that scene

 

[HornyyPussy]

Hopes putting that Filius scene in that game was a stroke of genius.
Now, whenever anyone tries to pass opinions as facts, we can poke fun at them using that scene

It's almost as if he catched on early about this place

 

[imadumb]

It doesn't seem like there's a solution for the problem I'm facing. Do I actually just have to restart and hope it doesn't happen again?

probally, u need to reach some other side story first, then, u can do My name is Luna after this, do some gracie story and probally should work

 

[Dragon59]

Hopes putting that Filius scene in that game was a stroke of genius.
Now, whenever anyone tries to pass opinions as facts, we can poke fun at them using that scene

Definitely! Something from the fine Shakespearian tradition.

 

[whichone]

5 years and so far no one, absolutely no one, has even bothered to actually write that first sentence in a way that isn't completely against all grammatical rules.

I'd be interested to see how good your grammar is, when writing in a foreign language.
Also, you should probably get your own punctuation & spelling correct, before advertising such hypocrisy in criticising someone else's.

sweaty dreams"..... because there is an option....
5 years.... WTF !?
but.....
palette was of....

An ellipsis is 3 dots, not 4. Certainly not 5.
"Palette was off", not "of".

Concerning the women :

A colon should never be preceded by a space (except in French).

in a 'OMG who took away the meds of the writer please someone call the hospital asap' kind of way.

"an OMG", not "a".
Those are apostrophes (used for contractions & possession), not quotation marks.

deadends

This is not even a word. "Dead end" is two words.

stageing

Also not a word. Perhaps you mean "staging"?

People in glass houses really shouldn't throw stones.

 

[HornyyPussy]

I'd be interested to see how good your grammar is, when writing in a foreign language.
Also, you should probably get your own punctuation & spelling correct, before advertising such hypocrisy in criticising someone else's.

An ellipsis is 3 dots, not 4. Certainly not 5.
"Palette was off", not "of".

"an OMG", not "a".
Those are apostrophes (used for contractions & possession), not quotation marks.

This is not even a word. "Dead end" is two words.

People in glass houses really shouldn't throw stones.

 

[whichone]

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Sorry for the ellipsis one, I know you have a liking for elongated ones...

 

[HornyyPussy]

Sorry for the ellipsis one, I know you have a liking for elongated ones...

I pull it of though

 

[whichone]

I pull it of though

True dat......................
Nice "of" reference! I see what you did there...

 

[JJJ84]

I'd be interested to see how good your grammar is, when writing in a foreign language.
Also, you should probably get your own punctuation & spelling correct, before advertising such hypocrisy in criticising someone else's.

An ellipsis is 3 dots, not 4. Certainly not 5.
"Palette was off", not "of".

A colon should never be preceded by a space (except in French).

"an OMG", not "a".
Those are apostrophes (used for contractions & possession), not quotation marks.

This is not even a word. "Dead end" is two words.

People in glass houses really shouldn't throw stones.

I'm guessing he'd be like Ralph from Simpsons or is that even too much to ask

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