Jimayo

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Though, Hopes did say that John Wick films (with the Criminal Underworld setting) would probably the modern entertainment media that fits very well to DeLuca's style.
That's a good one to take inspiration from.
 

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Now, I would like to draw attention to another aspect of the game, a "side theater of war" that is no less explosive.

The relationships!

First, we have Luna: a severely traumatized girl who hides behind a wall she built herself. On the outside she appears to be a cool, casual and self-confident fighter, but on the inside she looks completely different. In my opinion, the MC is doing exactly the right thing. Gently and slowly, he gives her what she secretly longs for: warmth, security and tenderness. He shows a lot of empathy and understanding for her nature and, above all, her past. He reminds her that behind the facade there is still a very desirable girl.

Second, here we have Gracie: a “theorist.” Isolated from the outside world, she lacks any kind of interpersonal and social interaction. She gets most of her knowledge from books and the internet. With the MC she now gets to know her own body better and discovers her own sexuality. What is frightening is the way in which this happens.

Thirdly, we have Isabel: the classic story of a severely neglected, unsatisfied and starving wife who knows exactly what and how she wants. You can feel it in every action they take and it's the MC's (unlucky or lucky?) that he shows up at the family's house at just that moment.

What all three relationships have in common is that they are in what I would call the Friendship Plus phase. Garcie and Isabel's jealousies put a smile on my face at times. Furthermore, I assume that Luna and Garcie were secretly talking about the MC. Garcie doesn't have a problem with it yet, recognizing the disservice he's doing to her sister. Nothing has happened yet, but woe betide the love factor comes into play. Either way, the MC is sitting on a powder keg and has the lit match in his hand!

The fourth and last member of the group is Cordia: Here the MC is actually given two tasks by Wilfred.

a) Cordia in the role of mother: The MC has already proven that he can solve interpersonal problems, aka Garcie and Isabel. But the problem of Cordia and Luna is a completely different matter. There is no question that he will solve it. The crucial question will be HOW!

b) Cordia in the function as a woman: ??? no idea what the dev has in mind here.

Conclusion: There is a lot to do. Let's wait and see!
 

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Nope.
It has been said by the dev, HopesGaming that MC at this stage is a weakling, who will in time, get stronger, and rise in ranks.

Also, the fact is, Wilfred and Gildart had been keeping a close eye on the MC throughout his childhood.
Hence while Wilfred's analysis of MC having High potential is correct, that doesn't mean he's had training.
In fact, he's only survived till now because of his sheer luck and his skills in making others seem to underestimate him.
But soon (if he hasn't already, given season 1 finale cliffhanger ending), he will realize that isn't enough and strive to get stronger, more powerful.

So sorry.
No MC hiding his real killer skills for this game.

Though, Hopes did say that John Wick films (with the Criminal Underworld setting) would probably the modern entertainment media that fits very well to DeLuca's style.
thanks for the information

it's make a good plot twist though, if we, the players, are misguided by the game and also by hopesgaming about the mc. i kind of hoping hopesgaming can give us a little more information about the mc past life, the life he had, right before he was escorted by wilfred.
 
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That's a good one to take inspiration from.
The actual media which inspired Hopes to create DeLuca was this Turkish Crime series that he happened to watch on TV.
I think he also said so for one of his FAQ for his Patreon iirc.

It's just that subject of John Wick films came up when he and I were discussing the game (this was actually months ago, back in 2023, heh). I had recently watched John Wick 4 (love the entire franchise, but this 4th one was really special to me), and mentioned to Hopes "You know, in a way, the world of JW kinda reminds me of DeLuca world."

This was his reply:

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So yeah.
I'm not surprised there are others who mention John Wick on this thread too. :KEK:

thanks for the information

it's make a good plot twist though, if we, the players, are misguided by the game and also by hopesgaming about the mc. i kind of hoping hopesgaming can give us a little more information about the mc past life, the life he had, right before he was escorted by wilfred.
Well, Hopes already has a set arc in regarding how MC will develop/grow as a character.
Don't get me wrong, I love John Wick (as in my reply to Jimayo above), but Wick from the first film is already a fully formed character.
MC of this game is the complete opposite of that.

As for MC's past life before the Contract, well we are given breadcrumbs throughout season 1;

- When he got into school, he met Jalen Kaskar, and the two of them formed a friendship, and he ended up living with the Kaskar Family for a while, enough to the close with the Family (Pops, Aunt Layla, Charvi and probably also Jalen's uncle as well).
It is implied he eventually moved out to live on his own, before the DeLucas came to him with the forced contract.

- There is a bit of a gap between the poison gas flashback with his mom and his meet with Jalen at school, which I'm guessing will be explored further in season 2; especially when it's time for our MC to have his reunion with his mother Rina.

i just finished reading all the codex, but i haven't play deluca for a long time now

JJJ84 can i ask your theory? i may be conflating things here from reading all the codex and jumbled memory of playing deluca back then

is the third serpent that reportedly died in the fire dante? is dante the one that went to Silverino house?
Or is MC's dad a Tradimano?

Are we already in the know of what the conflict between Lumina and Cordia is about?

Also I guess one last thing, do you think Mysterious Six has something to do with Scialdone?
MC's father is the one who is advisor to the Silverino Don.
He also married the eldest Silverino daughter Serafina and have a son called Nero (who is, yes. MC's half-brother).

Dante I'm guessing will most likely be the original third Serpent, as well as the current "Serpent." (sniper, the High Five guy)
Elektra, in the second meet with MC in the Frog Queen event, mentions Dante was originally engaged to Rina until she betrayed the DeLucas.

Lumina, from what I can tell is not mentioned in the visual novel part (i.e. rendered sections) of the game.
However, if I'm recalling correctly, there is her grave in the cemetery with tombstone in Lucania freeroam which states her name and her..... obituary?

Codex is where it was explained in depth about Lumina's character though. So at this moment, the player who read the Codex I'm guessing knows more about MC himself.
All MC would know would be that Cordia had a sister, but not what really went down between them.

As for Mysterious Six and Scialdone, uh who knows.
That's for Hopes to decide. I'm guessing any info about Mysterious Six, he's gonna keep those cards pretty close to his chest until ready cause they would be huge spoilers.


Not much, but I hope that answers some of your questions.
 
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If I remember correctly there is one mention : Cordia fear that Gracie is a new Lumina
That is indeed correct.
She is mentioned in Recording 8 for Cordia's office.
Guess I'm a little bit rusty given it's been a while since I last went through the events and recordings. :LOL:
 
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Codex is where it was explained in depth about Lumina's character though. So at this moment, the player who read the Codex I'm guessing knows more about MC himself.
Am I correct in assuming that I only have access to this codex in "Full Experience" mode?

Because in the “Story only & free movement” mode I can’t find it. Or am I just blind?
 

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Am I correct in assuming that I only have access to this codex in "Full Experience" mode?

Because in the “Story only & free movement” mode I can’t find it. Or am I just blind?
Full Experience mode, there is definitely Codex, Just Story from what I understand should also have the Codex avaiable cause you still get access to the laptop in MC's room.
Only mode which doesn't have it is the VN mode.
 

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JJJ84 goofing up on DeLuca lore? :eek: This is clearly a sign of the apocalypse.
Hehe, been incredibly busy.



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:HideThePain::KEK:

Progress of other AVNs have also greatly slowed compared to one or two years before, let alone DeLuca refreshers.

But I do plan to do some refresher sometime soon-ish hopefully.

oh man, maybe I should read the change log too: it's big and wide there!!!
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I mean that explains why you couldn't find it. :KEK:
Codex is only on the Steam release.
This screenshot is from Just Story (just quick opened the game out of curiosity and selected it lol)

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Online books you basically buy from the black laptop on the bed.
 

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I just played the game a second time to make saves on Noralgic points. I noticed something while going through the cliffhanger that makes the strange family even stranger:
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Dante I'm guessing will most likely be the original third Serpent, as well as the current "Serpent." (sniper, the High Five guy)
Thank you. I am glad to find out I am not the only one who thinks this. I am 99.9% he will turn out to be the mc's dad.

oh man, maybe I should read the change log too: it's big and wide there!!!
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I waited until season skipping .9. Since I knew it wasn't going to have any new story content(lore is background information, not story content to me) I decided to wait and let them get a, hopefully, bug free final version and I'm glad I did. With how much story there is in the lucania free roam, I like the change to vn form.
 
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I just played the game a second time to make saves on Noralgic points. I noticed something while going through the cliffhanger that makes the strange family even stranger:
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Why is it that strange? I've seen a lot of mafia movies and I can't think of one where the mafiosos didn't carry a gun at all times.
 
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Why is it that strange? I've seen a lot of mafia movies and I can't think of one where the mafiosos didn't carry a gun at all times.
Yeah, not to mention the mansion even got raided by Mysterious Six once, with Luna and Lucan taken several years ago.
With all that's happened it would be surprising if the mansion didn't have at least one weapon stashed somewhere for every single room of the house so the household can always be on alert and prepared if shit hits the fan again.
 

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Yeah, not to mention the mansion even got raided by Mysterious Six once, with Luna and Lucan taken several years ago.
With all that's happened it would be surprising if the mansion didn't have at least one weapon stashed somewhere for every single room of the house so the household can always be on alert and prepared if shit hits the fan again.
You have to understand the chronology of my being surprised. In the second run, I just focused on the relationships (see my post above) and completely ignored the story and the surrounding stuff (with excessive use of the TAB key). I even blocked out where the MC was. With the cliffhanger, the concentration weakened and from this situation, the realization that there were weapons in the room was all the more drastic. Then I tried to analyze where the two of them had the weapons with them, because I couldn't recognize a host. So the logical explanation I came to was that they were attached under the table.
 

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Thank you. I am glad to find out I am not the only one who thinks this. I am 99.9% he will turn out to be the mc's dad.
While i agree on the matter of the Serpent probably being Dante, i strongly suspect Rina not only betrayed the DeLucas but was cheating on him with Cordia's fiance (the one whose face has been burned off from Cordia's photograph), so no, Serpent is not the MC's dad at all. Complicated relationships all the way.

I waited until season skipping .9. Since I knew it wasn't going to have any new story content(lore is background information, not story content to me) I decided to wait and let them get a, hopefully, bug free final version and I'm glad I did. With how much story there is in the lucania free roam, I like the change to vn form.
How does one Free Roam in Lucania anyway? Have had none of that so far, to the point of suspecting i picked the wrong mode by distraction. :oops:
 
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