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Gustavous

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May 12, 2020
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A lot of things changed, I got a job as seaman, travel around the world and moved foward, I usually don't play those games anymore, but there some like this one that still catch my attention, I hope he comes back to continue this, because I truly enjoy the writing.
 

Mortarion

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But to some point I can understand it. Hope post nothing since over since 29th of May this year on Patreon. Even his most recent post on Discord is from 22th July - if that hasn't change.
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He had almost 900 subscribers in April 2021 and now he have a little bit over 400. I don't know what he earns through Steam, but assuming that this also is declining then his goal for being full time dev, may be proven very difficulty to maintain.

I do hope, he is working on the game, but I have no proof of that - sure, I also have no proof of the contrary, yet I begin to think that this game may never be finished.
Steam is a one time sale. That's the reason why the first week of release is so important for a new game.





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Steam takes 30% from the revenue and then come the taxes. Let's assume a optimistic case and 300k is the revenue and a greedy gov with 45% taxes.
Afair is Hopes from Scandinavia and according to a quick 'n dirty google search are the peak taxes there around 25%-55%

Steam revenue300.000$
Steam cut 30%90.000$300.000/100*30
Revenue before taxes210.000$300.000-90.000
Taxes assumed 45%94.500$210.000/100*45
Estimated Revenue115.500$210.000-94.500

I have no clue how healthcare and similar things work there, and to be honest I could not care less.

It should be noted that the values are only assumptions.

What we know in any case is that Steam wants 30%.

The tax rate depends on too many variables that we don't know, e.g. which Scandinavian country exactly, the exact annual income and things that can be deducted from tax and amortisation of operating costs.

Gamalytic's estimates are quite accurate. This was confirmed to me by several devs who have a Steam release behind them.

However, estimated 115K$ is a nice financial cushion - plus the income from Patreon.
 
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GustavoGanz

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May 23, 2023
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Actually a good game ... and as DEV probably still has a good income from its fanbase, it will remain just over the event horizon as long as money is still flowing in. Until those still willing to pay are no longer prepared to do so. Then, from my point of view, it would quickly fall into data nirvana .... POOOOOFFFFF
 

TrixRabbit

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Feb 11, 2024
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Just finished Act 1. Shame that it sounds like this is heading into "abandoned" or at least "indefinitely on hold" territory.
 

jivce

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Nov 28, 2019
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Steam is a one time sale. That's the reason why the first week of release is so important for a new game.





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Steam takes 30% from the revenue and then come the taxes. Let's assume a optimistic case and 300k is the revenue and a greedy gov with 45% taxes.
Afair is Hopes from Scandinavia and according to a quick 'n dirty google search are the peak taxes there around 25%-55%

Steam revenue300.000$
Steam cut 30%90.000$300.000/100*30
Revenue before taxes210.000$300.000-90.000
Taxes assumed 45%94.500$210.000/100*45
Estimated Revenue115.500$210.000-94.500

I have no clue how healthcare and similar things work there, and to be honest I could not care less.

It should be noted that the values are only assumptions.

What we know in any case is that Steam wants 30%.

The tax rate depends on too many variables that we don't know, e.g. which Scandinavian country exactly, the exact annual income and things that can be deducted from tax and amortisation of operating costs.

Gamalytic's estimates are quite accurate. This was confirmed to me by several devs who have a Steam release behind them.

However, estimated 115K$ is a nice financial cushion - plus the income from Patreon.
If I remember correctly he is from Denmark (I could be wrong) but they pay company taxes on 22% not 45%.
 
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Dessolos

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Wait, when did this get abandoned, what did I miss
looks like today. But not really unexpected communication been piss poor from what I can tell. I still hope it's in the works and if it isn't o well I can still enjoy playing S1 on steam then cry I won't see the next bit of the game which im dying to see.
 
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