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rambo455

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at this point i would like just an update on the games progress or the lack their off. doubt it will happen as i see this game being abandoned at this rate. which is a shame as it was a good story.
 

c3p0

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Hopes is in this to milk his fans...been saying this for years and now people are seeing that i'm right.
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Also you're so wrong. Milking is an active activity even, if you only doing cows on a farm. What hopes does, at least from the communictation view point is simple don't give a fuck.
It isn't a smart choice, regardless of his intent. If he want to have a good fanbase and customer, he should communicate and even if he only want to scam people into giving him money for his game, then he should communicate too.
 
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charlesrich

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I'll give him 5 dollars to write 5 sentences on where he's at. No release date, no images, just a general "I'm doing x, and it's going poorly, well, other"
 

WhiteyG

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And yes, as c3p0 mentioned above, his current approach of not communicating with the fans/playerbase and being in silent mode is not optiimal.
Not optimal? :LOL:

It is beyond stupid.

Someone here was supposed to message Hopes. Still haven't seen him pop up anywhere to even give an I'm alive, so funds are being diverted into the Floaty fund for possible eventualities. :devilish:

As far as milking goes. :ROFLMAO: That would require a lot more effort. If you want to see milking MattoElias stop by the WVM thread. He takes it to a whole new level, and if you want to bash the Dev there you can borrow my clubs.
 

Krytax123

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To be fair if he hasnt deactivated patreon payments despite staying silent all this time, he is kinda milking.

But who cares, i even hope he still makes a bit of money, why else would he get any motivation to continue this? And tbh some people deserve to be milked :ROFLMAO: Thinking he's working full power in silent mode is very very very positive thinking at this point unfortunaly.

I just hope he somehow gets the motivation/drive or whatever is missing back to continue this epic story somehow
 
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redbone89

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the problem with VN nowdays is that there is barley no build up to the lewd sences something BADIK did so well.. with chareters like JIll, Bella, Maya etc.. this games feamles give out the cake way to soon
 

Gustavous

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A lot of things changed, I got a job as seaman, travel around the world and moved foward, I usually don't play those games anymore, but there some like this one that still catch my attention, I hope he comes back to continue this, because I truly enjoy the writing.
 

Mortarion

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But to some point I can understand it. Hope post nothing since over since 29th of May this year on Patreon. Even his most recent post on Discord is from 22th July - if that hasn't change.
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He had almost 900 subscribers in April 2021 and now he have a little bit over 400. I don't know what he earns through Steam, but assuming that this also is declining then his goal for being full time dev, may be proven very difficulty to maintain.

I do hope, he is working on the game, but I have no proof of that - sure, I also have no proof of the contrary, yet I begin to think that this game may never be finished.
Steam is a one time sale. That's the reason why the first week of release is so important for a new game.





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Steam takes 30% from the revenue and then come the taxes. Let's assume a optimistic case and 300k is the revenue and a greedy gov with 45% taxes.
Afair is Hopes from Scandinavia and according to a quick 'n dirty google search are the peak taxes there around 25%-55%

Steam revenue300.000$
Steam cut 30%90.000$300.000/100*30
Revenue before taxes210.000$300.000-90.000
Taxes assumed 45%94.500$210.000/100*45
Estimated Revenue115.500$210.000-94.500

I have no clue how healthcare and similar things work there, and to be honest I could not care less.

It should be noted that the values are only assumptions.

What we know in any case is that Steam wants 30%.

The tax rate depends on too many variables that we don't know, e.g. which Scandinavian country exactly, the exact annual income and things that can be deducted from tax and amortisation of operating costs.

Gamalytic's estimates are quite accurate. This was confirmed to me by several devs who have a Steam release behind them.

However, estimated 115K$ is a nice financial cushion - plus the income from Patreon.
 
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GustavoGanz

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Actually a good game ... and as DEV probably still has a good income from its fanbase, it will remain just over the event horizon as long as money is still flowing in. Until those still willing to pay are no longer prepared to do so. Then, from my point of view, it would quickly fall into data nirvana .... POOOOOFFFFF
 
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