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I'm a bit confused about the "Abandoned" tag. As I understood it, the development was paused, not abandoned? Or did I missunderstand? I haven't played it yet but it's high on my list.
 

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I'm a bit confused about the "Abandoned" tag. As I understood it, the development was paused, not abandoned? Or did I missunderstand? I haven't played it yet but it's high on my list.
Hopes went radio silent for 3 months, so game got the tag.
The tag has no RL relevance towards whether or not a dev is still working on the game. It is applied on this site when a game\dev breaches this site's rules.
Check the rules for full info, specifically Section 3.
 

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Does anyone have at least one render as a teaser for Season 2? :HideThePain: :coffee:.
Would be nice, but AFAIK he hasn't posted any for his Patrons, so not sure how anyone here could get them.
He's only made one post on Patreon since the end of May last year.
Yes, they are, but Wilfred is a sociopath, and doesn't necessarily see that much of a difference. Also, in the Family, disobeying a direct order, just once, is grounds for terminations (and I don't mean getting fired as much as getting fired at). So really, not much different at all.
With regards to them "not being much different at all", you seem to be conflating the punishment with the crime.
Disobeying Cordia's orders & getting killed for it, does not make it remotely the same crime as having her daughter shot.
Just because both equal death as punishment, does not mean that they are similar crimes, in any way.
Death can take seconds, or months. It can be relatively painless, or exceedingly painful.
Wilfred is a very smart man, not a suicidal fool.

We know that he wants Gracie involved in the Family business, because he recognises her talent & potential.
With her Mother already being wary of allowing her to be involved, it would be pretty short-sighted of him to have Gracie shot & most likely make Cordia withdraw her, for her own protection. Especially after her being such a success on the mission that she sneaked onto.
Gracie's performance on that mission has enabled Cordia to see her in a different light, which is precisely what Wilfred wants for her.
If Wilfred had her shot, that new light could very quickly & easily be extinguished.
His own action would be extremely likely to go against his own objective of getting her more involved.

As I previously said, it's a far more desperate move than his position requires.
She has already been on a major mission & was the primary reason for the mission's success.
So he doesn't have much to do, in order to achieve his objective of having her involved. She's almost involved already.
Having Gracie shot would be more likely to make Cordia refuse to have her involved again.
So he wouldn't gain anything by doing it.
Which makes it highly improbable that he did.

Also, as c3p0 said, it only takes one stray bullet & she dies. That would completely destroy his plan to have her more involved.
I just can't see it. It's far too counterproductive.

As you say, we'll have to wait & see. (y)
 
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whatone

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He made 1 post and took off again? Not even 1 preview after this long? This is pathetic
Presumably you're talking about the Patreon post from 15th Nov 2024, as Hopes hasn't posted on this forum since May last year.
Wonder why he doesn't frequent this place anymore? :unsure:

If you're hoping for more content, perhaps posting something encouraging towards him would help a little more than calling it pathetic?
 
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Presumably you're talking about the Patreon post from 15th Nov 2024, as Hopes hasn't posted on this forum since May last year.
Wonder why he doesn't frequent this place anymore? :unsure:

If you're hoping for more content, perhaps posting something encouraging towards him would help a little more than calling it pathetic?
If he would show a little more affection towards the people who support him, maybe he would also receive a little more affection, right?
I don't think it costs much to write a small note from time to time and even more so to the people who support you with their money (including me by the way) you talk as if he were doing some charity work and we owe him devotion.
 
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You talk as if you're a customer & he owes you a product.
When you're a Patron he owes you fuck all.
If you choose to support him, it does not guarantee anything. You can simply choose to no longer support him, if you don't like the rate at which he communicates or delivers.
Other people are not responsible for your choices, you are.

But coming here & slagging him off, when the game has already had extensive delays, is hardly likely to inspire him to provide more.
No, I speak as someone who supports a person on Patreon and only asks for a little education to know something from time to time. I don't require him to update the game every "x" time.
It's not the same.
 
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Read your own words.
Your money is to "support" an artist. Not to "purchase" anything.
You choose to continue your support, or you choose not to.
The only person responsible for your choices, is you.

Complaining about the outcome of your choice is worthless, when you fucking chose it.
Read yours, you write as if I were demanding something from him as if I thought I was his boss, I only ask for some communication, which seems like the minimum to me when people are supporting you with their money and you talk as if I were demanding updates every month.
 

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And complaining about it on a Pirate site is more than a bit hypocritical and idiotic. DM Hopes on Patreon if you are a supporter. If you're not a supporter, then you literally have no grounds for complaint.
 
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I did not reply to you, I replied to the guy crying about no update, then calling the dev pathetic.
You replied to my post, carrying on as if you were entitled to something because you chose to support the dev.
You are not entitled to anything.

Anyway, it's useless to talk to you, have a good night. ;)

And complaining about it on a Pirate site is more than a bit hypocritical and idiotic. DM Hopes on Patreon if you are a supporter. If you're not a supporter, then you literally have no grounds for complaint.

I have written to him twice and he hasn't answered me either, but some of you here are very smart and you know everything.

And I write about the topic wherever I feel like since the dev doesn't even bother to answer on Patreon.
 

whatone

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I have written to him twice and he hasn't answered me either, but some of you here are very smart and you know everything.
If you don't like the lack of communication, or slow time for the update, stop supporting him.
It's your choice. If you choose to continue supporting a game where you are not happy with the dev's delivery, or communication, it's your own fault.
It's not fucking rocket science.

Perhaps you're just a masochist?
 

Krytax123

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If you don't like the lack of communication, or slow time for the update, stop supporting him.
It's your choice. If you choose to continue supporting a game where you are not happy with the dev's delivery, or communication, it's your own fault.
It's not fucking rocket science.

Perhaps you're just a masochist?
Stop being such a wannabe thread police, yeez youre annoying.

Its very fine to be disappointed with the development, you can be disappointed and still want a project to succeed (and therefore hang around). The story/characters are just really great but everything else about the development of this avn sucks ass at the moment.

Even more as a former supporter

And its not like the patreon's are getting any more communication lol, its as barebones and unsatisfiying as it gets and kinda looks like he is trying to get rid of as much supporters as fast as possible.

I just struggle to comprehend how anyone could invest so little and feel not grateful at all for all the money he has received and still does.

I understand hiccups in the development proccess and that the devs have a life which sometimes gets complicated which can result in long update times, what i dont understand is the entire lack of communication about all that. His patreon post from 15th nov is a bad joke.

And its just strange as hopes seemed to be a cool guy who didnt had any troubles with communication.
 

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I'm hanging in because it'd be a f'in tragedy if this is how Luna DeLuca's story ends. Every time I see the threat light up I think maybe there's news, but it's always people talking about how there isn't any news ... which is sad.
 
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Stop being such a wannabe thread police, yeez youre annoying.

Its very fine to be disappointed with the development, you can be disappointed and still want a project to succeed (and therefore hang around). The story/characters are just really great but everything else about the development of this avn sucks ass at the moment.

Even more as a former supporter

And its not like the patreon's are getting any more communication lol, its as barebones and unsatisfiying as it gets and kinda looks like he is trying to get rid of as much supporters as fast as possible.

I just struggle to comprehend how anyone could invest so little and feel not grateful at all for all the money he has received and still does.

I understand hiccups in the development proccess and that the devs have a life which sometimes gets complicated which can result in long update times, what i dont understand is the entire lack of communication about all that. His patreon post from 15th nov is a bad joke.

And its just strange as hopes seemed to be a cool guy who didnt had any troubles with communication.
I've been trying to get him to understand that but the only thing I've gotten is for him to call me a masochist, don't waste your time with that haha.
 

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I've been trying to get him to understand that but the only thing I've gotten is for him to call me a masochist, don't waste your time with that haha.
It's not rocket science, so I don't understand your difficulty in following simple rationale.

No-one asked you to respond to me, when I pointed out that the previous guy slagging the dev off, calling him names, is not likely to provide the update people are hoping for any more quickly.
In fact, quite the opposite.

I did not call you a masochist, learn to read & don't lie.
I said "perhaps you are a masochist" because you're complaining about the outcome of your own choice, yet you're continuing to make the same choice.
As I said, if you're not happy about the lack of communication, or the slow delivery of updates, then stop supporting the dev.
It's your choice & the only person responsible for your choices, is you.
Stop being such a wannabe thread police, yeez youre annoying.
The only person trying to dictate what others discuss, is you. Right there, in your quoted text.
I have not told anyone to "stop" posting what they want to. Others can post what they want, same as I can reply to them how I wish to.
You have no say in it, so who's trying to be thread police? You utter hypocrite.
 
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Krytax123

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The only person trying to dictate what others discuss, is you. Right there, in your quoted text.
I have not told anyone to "stop" posting what they want to. Others can post what they want, same as I can reply to them how I wish to.
You have no say in it, so who's trying to be thread police? You utter hypocrite.
"Discuss" is a funny way to call it. And you told the other poster in different words to stop crying and shut up nonstop, as it seems like you got very defensive about the lack of development.

Telling people to stop being an idiot is not really restricting their freedom of speech, is more like a hint but i concluded already that all of this is lost with you.

Do whatever you want and be as annoying as you want, have fun.
 
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