I think I know what will happen in the update from Luna. She will fall for the Mysterious Six and Nero will go to save her. and It was with the elimination of the Six and the beginning of the transformation of the MC from the rank and file of the soldier of the family Deluka into the legends of the criminal world. "This is the Nero Delucca the one who alone put the whole Mysterious Six with saving Lady Cordia’s daughter."
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I did read it. And I do see what you are trying to say with the different movie examples.
But as I mentioned, I think you just missed the whole relationship between mc and Luna. How Luna showed sides to MC that she hasn't done to anyone else and have 'let down' her barrier. He is the guy she fears would know her backstory. Fear he would think she was 'disgusting'. That look he showed her during that event triggered all that.
Also, I think you have misunderstood how trauma work. It doesn't have to be spectacular for it to trigger. No need for loud bangs or violence. A good example is from webmd 'Triggers can include sights, sounds, smells, or thoughts that remind you of the traumatic event in some way. Some PTSD triggers are obvious, such as seeing a news report of an assault. Others are less clear. For example, if you were attacked on a sunny day, seeing a bright blue sky might make you upset. '
About the mc coward situation- he is a coward, haha.
But even cowards can have their moments of bravados. It doesn't mean they suddenly lose all their fears and worries after that situation (he was even shaking during his bravado situation and could barely talk). It takes time to become truly involved in the underground life.
And for me not going savage like other devs; I can understand the devs. If there is anything they hate more than those negative people in a thread (that ofc comes back after every update even when they say they hate the game), then it is being told that they are not 'good enough'.
But at the same time, constructive criticism comes from people that have an interest in the work. And I do listen a lot to it (I just make it clear if I disagree, hehe).
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I think I understand what you're saying. There is a moment in the game where the MC can choose what he thinks of the entire Luna fight scene. I suppose it did not make sense to me because My choice was the third one "You're Awesome!". So in my head, the MC was thinking she is awesome and he likes her wild side or rather the brutal way she eliminated that Soldato.
I could not make the connection between "You're Awesome" and her reaction in this case for obvious reasons. It makes a lot of sense if any of the other two options are picked I'm sure, but because I picked the third option I didn't even imagine him being shocked due to her actions or her grotesque killing spree. Anyhow, the way you explain the scene makes sense now. I missed the whole point because I've chosen the third option leading me to believe that MC is actually super OK with her being a savage killer, therefore missing the whole shocked look on his face point.
I was wondering why the had the same look on his face regardless of the choice you pick, even though he (Me) was thinking she's awesome. LoL
I will make a mental note of that scene choice and replace it in my mind as "You're Awesome! But also WTF .." or something along those lines.
I could not make the connection between "You're Awesome" and her reaction in this case for obvious reasons. It makes a lot of sense if any of the other two options are picked I'm sure, but because I picked the third option I didn't even imagine him being shocked due to her actions or her grotesque killing spree. Anyhow, the way you explain the scene makes sense now. I missed the whole point because I've chosen the third option leading me to believe that MC is actually super OK with her being a savage killer, therefore missing the whole shocked look on his face point.
I was wondering why the had the same look on his face regardless of the choice you pick, even though he (Me) was thinking she's awesome. LoL
I will make a mental note of that scene choice and replace it in my mind as "You're Awesome! But also WTF .." or something along those lines.
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Notice that no matter the option.I think I understand what you're saying. There is a moment in the game where the MC can choose what he thinks of the entire Luna fight scene. I suppose it did not make sense to me because My choice was the third one "You're Awesome!". So in my head, the MC was thinking she is awesome and he likes her wild side or rather the brutal way she eliminated that Soldato.
I didn't even make the connection between "You're Awesome" and her reaction. It makes a lot of sense if any of the other two options are picked I'm sure, but because I picked the third option I didn't even imagine him being shocked due to her actions or her grotesque killing spree.
I will make a mental note of that scene choice and replace it in my mind as "You're Awesome! But also WTF .." or something along those lines.
His face reaction stays the same. And even if he thinks it's awesome. He is still in shock.
In awe so to speak.
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For what little it's worth, the scene worked fine for me.
My takeaway was that denial is Luna's coping mechanism. She tells herself that it was just a bad experience that happened a long time ago, that she's really fine, that's she's not broken. Because deep down she knows that she did break and she doesn't believe she can heal. She's crazy, she's a freak, a monster, a murderer, its all her fault that Sofia died, etc, etc. And she's sure that if anyone knew the truth about what she really is they'd be horrified. They'd hate her.
After all, at that point the only people who know the full story at that point are Luna and Cordia*. She definitely hates herself and she's convinced that Cordia hates her too. If she had a flashback it probably wasn't to her actual captivity. It would have been to telling her mother what happened and finding out that Cordia wouldn't even look at her afterwards.
Personally my disappointment about the update was that I thought the end was the perfect place for the MC and Luna to have sex for the first time. I can understand why that wasn't feasible for 'production' reasons though.
*Yes, Gracie seems to have worked it out all as well, but Luna sees her as innocent and pure, so I suspect she doesn't acknowledge it. Wilfred may know also know everything, but he plays his cards so close to his chest that no one knows what he really thinks.
My takeaway was that denial is Luna's coping mechanism. She tells herself that it was just a bad experience that happened a long time ago, that she's really fine, that's she's not broken. Because deep down she knows that she did break and she doesn't believe she can heal. She's crazy, she's a freak, a monster, a murderer, its all her fault that Sofia died, etc, etc. And she's sure that if anyone knew the truth about what she really is they'd be horrified. They'd hate her.
After all, at that point the only people who know the full story at that point are Luna and Cordia*. She definitely hates herself and she's convinced that Cordia hates her too. If she had a flashback it probably wasn't to her actual captivity. It would have been to telling her mother what happened and finding out that Cordia wouldn't even look at her afterwards.
Personally my disappointment about the update was that I thought the end was the perfect place for the MC and Luna to have sex for the first time. I can understand why that wasn't feasible for 'production' reasons though.
*Yes, Gracie seems to have worked it out all as well, but Luna sees her as innocent and pure, so I suspect she doesn't acknowledge it. Wilfred may know also know everything, but he plays his cards so close to his chest that no one knows what he really thinks.
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I, for one, will start by being a little less laudatory. When you started saying that the update was gonna touch Luna's past and be dark, I braced for something truly heartbreaking, and while you delivered, I couldn't help but find the kidnapped children story unfolding before my eyes somewhat... cliché. Don't get me wrong, the fact that it happened at all was a refreshing surprise (or would have been if we weren't "teased" about darkness). Nonetheless, I couldn't help but find the unfolding of this part predictable starting from the moment sweet Luna was kidnapped (well, Wilfred told us most of it anyway). Maybe because, although I don't know the movie robertfierce talked about, the theme of kidnapped children trained to be killer has been done already in various media.
So, why I am telling you that? While I'm being the voice of dissonance, there's something I have to say as well. And it is that it doesn't matter to me if something is predictable as long as I'm into it. The best stories are more often than not those famous ones that have been told and retold over the centuries, polished by numerous talented people into what they are today, and this is because we instinctively know them that we can appreciate the author's writing abilities. The scene that really sold it to me was toward the end, when sweet Luna finally broke (and break she did, poor thing). When I saw that little girl with a crazy smile singing how she was gonna kill the mustachioed guy. This is where everything connected, this is where my throat found a lump, this is where my eyes got teary. And this is where you shined as an author, to me.
Because it doesn't matter if the unfolding of the story is predictable or not, what matters is that I care for these characters you invented. I used to find Luna cute and crazy, now I find her cute, crazy and strong as hell. I like her more than ever (especially after her reaction following the oath). Gracie also showed a new side of her personality that makes her twice more interesting. Wilfred and Cordia as well can now be seen differently. In fact, the revelation about Luna's past changes everything and at the same time, it validates everything. And that's great authoring skills here!
So keep up the good work, and don't worry about being influenced by mafia movies and/or books, this is a mafia game, for Joey's sake!
I, for one, will start by being a little less laudatory. When you started saying that the update was gonna touch Luna's past and be dark, I braced for something truly heartbreaking, and while you delivered, I couldn't help but find the kidnapped children story unfolding before my eyes somewhat... cliché. Don't get me wrong, the fact that it happened at all was a refreshing surprise (or would have been if we weren't "teased" about darkness). Nonetheless, I couldn't help but find the unfolding of this part predictable starting from the moment sweet Luna was kidnapped (well, Wilfred told us most of it anyway). Maybe because, although I don't know the movie robertfierce talked about, the theme of kidnapped children trained to be killer has been done already in various media.
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So, why I am telling you that? While I'm being the voice of dissonance, there's something I have to say as well. And it is that it doesn't matter to me if something is predictable as long as I'm into it. The best stories are more often than not those famous ones that have been told and retold over the centuries, polished by numerous talented people into what they are today, and this is because we instinctively know them that we can appreciate the author's writing abilities. The scene that really sold it to me was toward the end, when sweet Luna finally broke (and break she did, poor thing). When I saw that little girl with a crazy smile singing how she was gonna kill the mustachioed guy. This is where everything connected, this is where my throat found a lump, this is where my eyes got teary. And this is where you shined as an author, to me.
Because it doesn't matter if the unfolding of the story is predictable or not, what matters is that I care for these characters you invented. I used to find Luna cute and crazy, now I find her cute, crazy and strong as hell. I like her more than ever (especially after her reaction following the oath). Gracie also showed a new side of her personality that makes her twice more interesting. Wilfred and Cordia as well can now be seen differently. In fact, the revelation about Luna's past changes everything and at the same time, it validates everything. And that's great authoring skills here!
So keep up the good work, and don't worry about being influenced by mafia movies and/or books, this is a mafia game, for Joey's sake!
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The kidnapped story is a bit cliche, but to be honest, I didn't know anything about this going in, and someone mentioned that you'll learn about Luna's past. Consider her age, it was easy to come up with the conclusion. I had kidnapped and put into a hunger games (i think that's how that story plays out anyway, never watched) or experiments as a child. And .... obviously correct. Not sure what else it would be and still make sense.
As for Luna's reaction and the I did not break line, I felt it was good and a bit obvious for the reasons mentioned above. It's clear the MC got passed barriers that no one else has, and his reaction would definitely be one that would perturbed her. As she mentioned, she didn't want him to know how she was, and call her disgusting, etc.
So aside from being a bit cliche'd which is a bit hard to do, it's a very well thought out scene and story.
Love it so far, and much different from what I was expecting just from the name. Especially given the whole lot ofincest landlady stories in this niche of games.
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Oh, and Luna, best girl.
And final bit, maybe because the game isn't completed yet, but I do feel like there isn't enough to do given the amount of time you are given. Even more so, with the later quests requiring more days in between to continue. Would be nice if moving on with the story automatically move days to allow them to be completed earlier or something. Because it almost feels like a good bit of wasted time. Currently have 12k of money that I'll probably use a couple of thousands of, and get many thousands more as the game progress.
As for Luna's reaction and the I did not break line, I felt it was good and a bit obvious for the reasons mentioned above. It's clear the MC got passed barriers that no one else has, and his reaction would definitely be one that would perturbed her. As she mentioned, she didn't want him to know how she was, and call her disgusting, etc.
So aside from being a bit cliche'd which is a bit hard to do, it's a very well thought out scene and story.
Love it so far, and much different from what I was expecting just from the name. Especially given the whole lot of
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Oh, and Luna, best girl.
And final bit, maybe because the game isn't completed yet, but I do feel like there isn't enough to do given the amount of time you are given. Even more so, with the later quests requiring more days in between to continue. Would be nice if moving on with the story automatically move days to allow them to be completed earlier or something. Because it almost feels like a good bit of wasted time. Currently have 12k of money that I'll probably use a couple of thousands of, and get many thousands more as the game progress.
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I'm sure that Fifi is going to come back with a bang like a kick ass warrior and save MC and Luna from a tight spot and slice the scum that hurt her with a fucking katana
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[SPOILER İMAGE] I'm about to lose my mind from laughing. When music stops and we see her LMAO
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HopesGaming just one question buddy...
how would you describe the future relationship of mc with lady cordia ? motherly or something else ? how does she see the mc ?
how would you describe the future relationship of mc with lady cordia ? motherly or something else ? how does she see the mc ?
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Btw I would say thanks to the author.
I finally know how to deal with angry women (it worked, I swear).
I finally know how to deal with angry women (it worked, I swear).
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+Morality is bad or good thing? + need to be good thing with not bad word but everytime I want choice +morality choices I see some bad things about it This confuse me. Can someone say?
This confuse me. Can someone say?
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HopesGaming changed that value to "Dispassion" already. i.e. How ruthless and mafia-like you will be in executing your job.+Morality is bad or good thing? + need to be good thing with not bad word but everytime I want choice +morality choices I see some bad things about it
e.g. Saying "Honor is important" to the Serpent gets minus "morality" which is confusing. It actually means you are still 'passionate' and not a ruthless killer (yet). Meanwhile, looking at a shooting (instead of looking away) gets + "morality", you are getting more "dispassionate" about the business.
Indeed. The goal is not to avoid anything cliche. But rather to make it my own.
The point was just that there was no reference point when I was creating Luna's backstory. As cliche as it may seem to be, heh.
The point was just that there was no reference point when I was creating Luna's backstory. As cliche as it may seem to be, heh.
Sadly, I can't talk about anything related to the future. Those things are part of Cordia's character development. I would like to go in-depth with everything but for now, my mouth is zipped.
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HopesGaming, you are doing a great job keeping the future of the story close to the vest. But can you give us a quick glance at the development progress for the next update, now that the issues that held up the current release have been resolved? Will you be able to get back on track for a shorter release cycle? I don't think you need to shoot for monthly as DrPinkCake has shown, quality takes time but can we expect something before the end of the year?
It will go back to the normal release schedule which is 2-3 months.
And what my long (too long) post was about is: you succeeded in doing just that
Not too long at all, haha.And what my long (too long) post was about is: you succeeded in doing just that