Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[JJJ84]

It's a bit funny how some (though not all) of these people who try to be vocal in their complaints about the game tend to be showing the similar pattern, saying "their opinion = facts" lol

 

[BaasB]

It's a bit funny how some (though not all) of these people who try to be vocal in their complaints about the game tend to be showing the similar pattern, saying "their opinion = facts" lol View attachment 590498

My only Complaint is that HopesGaming needs to release the game, the* wait is killing me

 

[JJJ84]

Just some questions before before the update releases - HopesGaming, from what you've been telling us every now and then, there's to be quite a bit of lore added to this update (or the one after that? Can't remember), right (in addition to Isabel's lewd rotation content)?

So with that in mind, I have two questions (not sure whether it has been asked or not).

1) Regarding lore in general, could we perhaps get a history of each Family (plus perhaps a bit of Mysterious Six as well?) regarding such things like major conflicts they had (war or skirmishes with other Families), their diplomatic actions (alliances with another Family etc), and perhaps how they are perceived by the civilians of Lucania etc etc?
I wouldn't say lay it all out to the point where it spoils the main story, but perhaps these lore entries can be updated as MC meets and encounters new Families/enemies etc.

2) The DeLucas' Family crest is the Serpent. But what are the Family crests of rest of the Big 5 (plus other smaller families who have or will play prominent parts in the future)? Also, are there any crests for the Mysterious Six? Or do they simply have no crest (perhaps they operate without one)?

Doing all this would probably be quite a bit of work. But still, I consider myself a bit of a sucker for stuff like this, and I would be pretty glad if you can do something like this (since I feel it may add an extra layer to the game's immersion) - doesn't have to be in this update or the next. As long as it comes sometime in the future, I'll be glad (though if it is too much work and not possible to do any of this, I'll be understanding also).

 

[HopesGaming]

Just some questions before before the update releases - HopesGaming, from what you've been telling us every now and then, there's to be quite a bit of lore added to this update (or the one after that? Can't remember), right (in addition to Isabel's lewd rotation content)?

So with that in mind, I have two questions (not sure whether it has been asked or not).

1) Regarding lore in general, could we perhaps get a history of each Family (plus perhaps a bit of Mysterious Six as well?) regarding such things like major conflicts they had (war or skirmishes with other Families), their diplomatic actions (alliances with another Family etc), and perhaps how they are perceived by the civilians of Lucania etc etc?
I wouldn't say lay it all out to the point where it spoils the main story, but perhaps these lore entries can be updated as MC meets and encounters new Families/enemies etc.

2) The DeLucas' Family crest is the Serpent. But what are the Family crests of rest of the Big 5 (plus other smaller families who have or will play prominent parts in the future)? Also, are there any crests for the Mysterious Six? Or do they simply have no crest?

Doing all this would probably be quite a bit of work. But still, I consider myself a bit of a sucker for stuff like this, and I would be pretty glad if you can do something like this (since I feel it may add an extra layer to the game's immersion) - doesn't have to be in this update or the next. As long as it comes sometime in the future, I'll be glad (though if it is too much work, I'll be understanding also).

1. The lore was supposed to be in 0.05.1. Have a good chunk of it written. But sadly, it will not be in 0.06.
I postponed due to it taking too long and took too much time off the main update. Will probably be in the 0.06.1
(can be in 0.07 due to the new gameplay mechanics)

But yes, it contains detailed information about all the different families (big to small) their founders, important members, allies and enemies, important events, etc.

There are details on notable events such as "the big war" and others.

2. All families have their own crest. Those would be detailed in the lore section. I probably hire an artist to make their crests.

 

[JJJ84]

1. The lore was supposed to be in 0.05.1. Have a good chunk of it written. But sadly, it will not be in 0.06.
I postponed due to it taking too long and took too much time off the main update. Will probably be in the 0.06.1
(can be in 0.07 due to the new gameplay mechanics)

But yes, it contains detailed information about all the different families (big to small) their founders, important members, allies and enemies, important events, etc.

There are details on notable events such as "the big war" and others.

2. All families have their own crest. Those would be detailed in the lore section. I probably hire an artist to make their crests.

That's totally fine. I consider the lore stuff something that I'd love to see, but still consider it as something extra (which should not get in the way of your main updates).

Still, really glad to hear they're coming sometime in the future (even if they don't come in 0.06.1 or 0.07, I wouldn't mind, as long as they can get added somewhere down the line).

 

[itshowyoumetme]

I always find it odd when people complain about there being non-sexual dark and uncomfortable tones in adult games. There can be rape, slavery, bestiality and not to mention the massive amounts of incest in games on here, those seem to all be uncontroversial, but add in murder and psychological torture in a mafia game and suddenly some people are shocked and appalled.

Don't get me wrong, I can absolutely see why some people wouldn't like Luna's backstory. It's not for everybody, I just find it odd that with all the things that are on here, this is what people find controversial. The Luna update was personally my favorite because it was difficult story to tell well, without coming off as crass/murder porn-y, but Hope pulled it off really well. I also think it fit the game overall.
Another example where people got outraged was Acting lessons. I'll avoid spoilers so I'll just talk around it a bit. i was personally not a big fan of "that part" of the game, not because it didn't fit in an adult game or that it was dark or anything but just that I thought that it made the other choices up to that point a bit too binary, leaving you with just an A or B choice (I know there were more variables in there, but that was how it came off to me). I disliked it because I felt it removed agency from the player. Other than that, it was an excellent game and the ending/s were well executed, but some people freaked out at that game in the same way as people freaked out about Luna.

I dunno, it takes all kinds I guess. It's just always confused me what some people gets riled up about.

 

[JJJ84]

I always find it odd when people complain about there being non-sexual dark and uncomfortable tones in adult games. There can be rape, slavery, bestiality and not to mention the massive amounts of incest in games on here, those seem to all be uncontroversial, but add in murder and psychological torture in a mafia game and suddenly some people are shocked and appalled.

Don't get me wrong, I can absolutely see why some people wouldn't like Luna's backstory. It's not for everybody, I just find it odd that with all the things that are on here, this is what people find controversial. The Luna update was personally my favorite because it was difficult story to tell well, without coming off as crass/murder porn-y, but Hope pulled it off really well. I also think it fit the game overall.
Another example where people got outraged was Acting lessons. I'll avoid spoilers so I'll just talk around it a bit. i was personally not a big fan of "that part" of the game, not because it didn't fit in an adult game or that it was dark or anything but just that I thought that it made the other choices up to that point a bit too binary, leaving you with just an A or B choice (I know there were more variables in there, but that was how it came off to me). I disliked it because I felt it removed agency from the player. Other than that, it was an excellent game and the ending/s were well executed, but some people freaked out at that game in the same way as people freaked out about Luna.

I dunno, it takes all kinda I guess. It's just always confused me what some people gets riled up about.

Yeah, I mean it's not the first time someone complained Luna's backstory (and it probably won't be the last lol). What I loved about "My name is Luna" update was the fact that we got to explore the inner layers of Luna's psyche, cause for her trauma etc. It just makes me really feel for and understand her character a lot more than before.

From the start Hopes has told a story that's unique & gives the characters to this game real depth, and I personally feel Luna update is a prime example of that (even though it's very dark).

One thing which annoyed me quite a bit about the person who most recently complained was the fact he basically started insulting the people who liked the update (like myself & many others), saying things like "inexperienced, infantile players, those who cry over JVN "
I mean it can be different strokes for different folks, and he's got a right to an opinion (so not saying he needs to be agreeing with rest of us), but there's the respectful way, and an insulting way to go about it.

- Example of Respectful way: "I didn't like the Luna update. I felt it was [XYZ reasons] for my tastes etc etc."
(no need for any conflict of any kind if this approach was used)

- Example of Insulting (plus wrong) way to make a point: "The game is [ABC]. It looked like an primitive attempt to break a tear from inexperienced, infantile players, those who cry over JVN
(trying to state an opinion as fact, plus insults rest of the fanbase)

There were some people before (since Luna update) that did make their point the respectful way. To those people, while I disagree with them, still have my respect. Unfortunately, there are some who complain that fall into the later category.

 

[Aweful]

I thought it was great. Sad but, great. It added so much depth to Luna's character.

I say if you can't handle it, go grab a juicy juice and try another game.

 

[Ayhsel]

Don't liking a piece of art is always fine. Asking artist to change their art is always wrong. Nothing is taboo in art. Even if we find it horrendous and super against our views. Censhorship is bad.
EDIT: Asking artist to change their art is always wrong, as long as nobody got hurt producing it. Just in case. Some serial killers consider themselves artists.

 

[Zirael Q]

only 1 day left, yay

 

[preglovr12]

Let's get back on topic here folks.

 

[9000000gab]

Dont worry some people just like hating on stuff.
Ur one of 3 developer that i think better than everybody else. you Dr.pinkcake and philly

 

[7empest5teele]

Luna's disturbing history was shocking in several ways, but it is something she went through, something that made her the woman she is today.
Personally I get the distinctive feeling though that all of it was perpetrated by someone she knew, rather than someone against her family, in order to make her the "Serpent" she is meant to be.

 

[Weltmeister]

Can't wait for tomorrow. This would make my covid-19-quarantine a bit brighter.

 

[Jack_Sparrow_Pirate]

I am not able to progress to story 5.
When I work with old man it shows me that i am at soldato.

 

[Cyndallan]

I am not able to progress to story 5.
When I work with old man it shows me that i am at soldato.

You need to click wilfred -> work -> events
It should have the rank-up event there

 

[Cyndallan]

I feel like I should remind people that march 20 release is for Caporegime tier and up

Btw just finished my replay with long story, 2nd time.
Had the same effect on me as the first round

 

[Sheppard3rd]

I feel like I should remind people that march 20 release is for Caporegime tier and up

Btw just finished my replay with long story, 2nd time.
Had the same effect on me as the first round

Luna`s story keeps me still awake at nights

 

[scarletlove]

Luna's backstory being super dark; it took me to some places I don't like to visit. That being said, I was captivated with it from start to the end. Like many other members here, Luna is my favorite character in this game and it was really great to get to know her backstory.

HopesGaming
Others have said it before but let me reiterate. You have a masterful way of storytelling. Your work impacts me in a similar way as when I read a book and get totally immersed in it, identify and care for the characters and want to be a part of their journey. This game is one of my favourites and I always look forward to your releases. I'm a sucker for happy endings and truly hope that's how you plan to end your story as well. That being said, no matter how you take the story forward, as long as you are true to your characters, I have no doubt that I will enjoy it no matter the ending. Cheers!!!

 

[istlover08]

luna... is not my favorite girl HOWEVER i feel her back story was masterfully executed hopes gaming has excellent writing and really knows how to blend dark as fuck with the more cartoony fight scenes and add on the sexual elements this game to me is a true master class in terms of erotic games atm probably one of the best VNs ive ever played.
Edit. in my opinion this game does dark moments far better than games like acting lessons and to a slightly smaller extent depraved awakenings both of which feel like they have dark moments and bad things happen simply because they either want a twist or to shock the player where this game you can clearly see the thought in every moment and see most of it was set up from the beginning and are used for a purpose.