Umariel

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After a scene in a fridge (sorting out relations, Antonio as bisex) :unsure:
why Gracie's thoughts at chars screen still shows dislike for Isabel?
 

DarkDestro

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There goes my thought that he just told her he was bi in his attempt to play the role expected of him.
Honestly, it still might be the case though. We hvn't had him say he is straight, gay or bi. So the possibility still exists that he is Gay pretending to be straight/bi.
 
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I know the game has just been updated, but can someone tell me the frequency of the updates and how much content it has? I might look a little selfish when I say this, but I like the game very much and I don't want to wait too long. Little Luna story was too good to wait too long.
 

DarkDestro

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I know the game has just been updated, but can someone tell me the frequency of the updates and how much content it has? I might look a little selfish when I say this, but I like the game very much and I don't want to wait too long. Little Luna story was too good to wait too long.
Know the feeling mate, i just started playing it not long ago. It's amazing! From what i have seen it's been a little inconsistant. But usually around 1-3 months.
The updates are quite decent compared to many other games. I believe the last 6 isabel events were the latest patch.

Luna is by far my favorite in the game. I'm concidering getting her as my PfP but not sure if i need "permission or not" xD
 
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I know the game has just been updated, but can someone tell me the frequency of the updates and how much content it has? I might look a little selfish when I say this, but I like the game very much and I don't want to wait too long. Little Luna story was too good to wait too long.
They way it works is Hopes rolls a pair of dice and whatever number comes up is however many months he spends for that update.
As far as the content. He's just recalling episodes from his past.

Or so I've heard.
 

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Know the feeling mate, i just started playing it not long ago. It's amazing! From what i have seen it's been a little inconsistant. But usually around 1-3 months.
The updates are quite decent compared to many other games. I believe the last 6 isabel events were the latest patch.

Luna is by far my favorite in the game. I'm concidering getting her as my PfP but not sure if i need "permission or not" xD
They way it works is Hopes rolls a pair of dice and whatever number comes up is however many months he spends for that update.
As far as the content. He's just recalling episodes from his past.

Or so I've heard.
Thanks guys. I guess while I'm waiting gonna play some mb bannerlord. For months :(((
 

Doputgun

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I have played some of these kind of games for the story but this game I'm almost playing just for the story. In this game for me other things in the game is secondary importance like the scene with the bj from Isabel.
 

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I know the game has just been updated, but can someone tell me the frequency of the updates and how much content it has? I might look a little selfish when I say this, but I like the game very much and I don't want to wait too long. Little Luna story was too good to wait too long.
Hopes hasn't been doing ETAs regarding updates for awhile now (with good reasons), and he normally doesn't announce their arrival until they're almost ready (like a week or so before release, if I remember correctly).

Regarding content, well it's always done in rotation of main story - lewd/freeroam - main story - lewd/freeroam and so on. The recent Isabel update was lewd/freeroam, so expect continuation in the main story update next.

In the meantime, there's adult games by other devs (like DrPinkCake, PhillyGames & several others) that are also worth playing.
 

Doputgun

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Hopes hasn't been doing ETAs regarding updates for awhile now (with good reasons), and he normally doesn't announce their arrival until they're almost ready (like a week or so before release, if I remember correctly).

Regarding content, well it's always done in rotation of main story - lewd/freeroam - main story - lewd/freeroam and so on. The recent Isabel update was lewd/freeroam, so expect continuation in the main story update next.

In the meantime, there's adult games by other devs (like DrPinkCake, PhillyGames & several others) that are also worth playing.
I have been playing several games but this game had a different impact on me and that's why I'm so impatient. Also thanks for the reply.
 
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Mr. Darke

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Adult is not a synonym to porn it is rather an umbrella term of porn. As such an adult game can have porn in it, but don't must have porn in it to be classified as an adult game.
Adult, when used with other words like "game" and "film" is absolutely a synonym for pornography. In fact, if you google "Adult Film", the word "Pornographic" appears right on the side and 99% of the search results on the first page are porn related. This is obviously not to say that this is its only meaning, but it is a bit disingenuous to act as though it is equally as likely to have this label for extreme violence as it is for pornographic content.

Is it wrong for a game to not focus on sex while calling itself an adult game? Absolutely not, however, we shouldn't act mystified and or make it seem like people that feel mislead are completely unjustified in that emotion; they aren't.

If on this site most adult games are also porn games then it is so, but that don't mean that it can't have adult games with none or only few porn content in here.
I'm pretty sure that, when people actually think about it (meaning after they get past their initial frustrations), no one is saying that a game CAN'T be here with little or no pornographic content. I'm pretty sure they're just explaining why they were frustrated / confused by the lack of it here. Take your phone analogy. It would be more like walking into a place labeled "Phone Store and Apple Phone Service Center" to discover they don't actually sell Apple Phones. It's like, technically they didn't say they sold Apple phones but it would be understandable why people might think they did.

For what all what's it worth this game is proper labeled and in the first post it is also decleared what this game is...

So to be blunt, if you don't like this game because it has no porn in it and are not happy with it, then you have only yourself to blame for.
No. Just no. People do not only have themselves to blame if they misunderstood what this game was. I'm not saying it's Hopes' fault either, but it damn sure isn't their fault either. We are on a site, primarily populated by pornographic games, the tags include pornographic labels, "adult" is a synonym for "porn" especially when paired with other words, and no, the first post doesn't declare "This is not a pornographic game."

Again, Hopes has done nothing wrong... but neither has the person that thought there would be more sexual content in this game. The only thing I will say, though I'm not sure as to how much it would help, but maybe it could be put on the first post (and maybe in red) that this isn't a porn game. I mean, as much as it keeps getting said, I have to wonder why it isn't there already.

I get it, many of us like this game. There's a lot to like. Many people are all about the nuance and dark themes, but let's not let our fandom cause us to be overly defensive to where we keep treating it like it's insane to associate "adult" with "porn" and that people keep doing it for "reasons" that are beyond us, lol.
 
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Adult, when used with other words like "game" and "film" is absolutely a synonym for pornography
I would not say it is an 'absolutely' synonm for pornography but it is however very much linked together.
But many other non pornogeraphic movies are called adult. Game of Thrones is called an adult movie. But not much pornographic focus on that series.
  1. Adult is defined as grown up or something intended for a mature audience or of a mature nature.
    A film that is rated NC-17 is an example of an adult movie.
But, it is true. Adult is very much linked to something sexual. BUT no one is saying anything different. What is being said is that the FOCUS (main theme) is not necessarily on the porn. An adult movie is about how explicit the scenes can be.

we shouldn't act mystified and or make it seem like people that feel mislead are completely unjustified in that emotion; they aren't.
This I heavily disagree with. If this was a 0.01 release with zero information out there- yes, I would've agreed.
But reading the reviews, comments, OP, Faq, tags, my patreon front page, etc. and you will clearly get an idea that this is an adult game where the focus is not on the sex. So when someone blindly downloads my game and expect it to be how they want it to be instead of reading what it actually is- then no, I will never agree with those statements. It's their fault 100% and I will always have a dislike for those kinds of people.

I'm pretty sure they're just explaining why they were frustrated / confused by the lack of it here. Take your phone analogy. It would be more like walking into a place labeled "Phone Store and Apple Phone Service Center" to discover they don't actually sell Apple Phones. It's like, technically they didn't say they sold Apple phones but it would be understandable why people might think they did.
Some of them are, while other of them are extremely toxic due to the lack of porn.
And the phone analogy does not make sense as you are making it clear that it is a phone shop (porn game) that does not sell phones (porn). Which is a ridiculous analogy.

A better analogy would be; ice cream shop (18+ shop) now some shops sell only vanilla (pure porn) and another shop only sells chocolate (adult game). They both sell ice cream but it is about flavor.
Now, an entitled brat enters the chocolate shop and demands it to sell vanilla. Even though there is a huge banner outside that clearly says 'CHOCOLATE ONLY SHOP'. Yet the brat is stomping his feet and yelling, going to shop sites to give it a low review, and even going as far as attacking the people that like the chocolate shop because there is no vanilla flavor.

Can you see the difference?

No. Just no. People do not only have themselves to blame if they misunderstood what this game was. I'm not saying it's Hopes' fault either, but it damn sure isn't their fault either. We are on a site, primarily populated by pornographic games, the tags include pornographic labels, "adult" is a synonym for "porn" especially when paired with other words, and no, the first post doesn't declare "This is not a pornographic game."
I would say 100 times yes. As mentioned above. I have done everything to make sure to tell people what this game is. F95zone has done everything on their part to tell what this game is (reviews, comments, TAGS)
If all of those things are not enough- what is? Why even have any informational stuff if we base our whole life on baseless expectations.

This is not a porn site. This is an adult site. I don't agree that these two things are the same.
Notice how some games have the 'no sex' tag. (can't remember the name of the tag)
Why would the site have tags that say no sex when it is supposedly a pure porn site? Because it isn't. It is about the 18+ stuff. All of that can be softcore all the way to hardcore. It can be a story with only nudity and gore while it can be a game of no story but pure fuckfeast. (and both styles are perfectly fine)

Point is, let the owner of the site be the ones that determine what the site is for.

that this isn't a porn game. I mean, as much as it keeps getting said, I have to wonder why it isn't there already.
Because it would be stupid to go to each thread and write "This is a porn game, lot's of sex."
And then another thread "This is not a porn game, lot's of story"

That's why they have the tags. It's in the op. It clearly shows the current sexual stuff in the game.
So even if they ignore the reviews and the comments. There is still the tags and the faq in the main op. That should be enough. There is a limit to how much handholding there can be done. (Which is where we go back to- yes it's their own fault for being 'misled')


I get it, many of us like this game. There's a lot to like. Many people are all about the nuance and dark themes, but let's not let our fandom cause us to be overly defensive to where we keep treating it like it's insane to associate "adult" with "porn" and that people keep doing it for "reasons" that are beyond us, lol.
To end with, I respect your opinion, Drake, and please do not see it in any way or form an attack against you.
I just heavily disagree with what you're saying and will always detest those people.

One thing is disliking the game and the story. That is fine.
But acting like I am in the wrong for doing the game the way I want to do. Telling me that the site is supposed to be like this and that. How they were being misled?
B*, please. I do whatever I want. (Targeted at the entitled brats not you, Drake)
 
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I would not say it is an 'absolutely' synonm for pornography but it is however very much linked together.
But many other non pornogeraphic movies are called adult. Game of Thrones is called an adult movie. But not much pornographic focus on that series.
  1. Adult is defined as grown up or something intended for a mature audience or of a mature nature.
    A film that is rated NC-17 is an example of an adult movie.
But, it is true. Adult is very much linked to something sexual. BUT no one is saying anything different. What is being said is that the FOCUS (main theme) is not necessarily on the porn. An adult movie is about how explicit the scenes can be.



This I heavily disagree with. If this was a 0.01 release with zero information out there- yes, I would've agreed.
But reading the reviews, comments, OP, Faq, tags, my patreon front page, etc. and you will clearly get an idea that this is an adult game where the focus is not on the sex. So when someone blindly downloads my game and expect it to be how they want it to be instead of reading what it actually is- then no, I will never agree with those statements. It's their fault 100% and I will always have a dislike for those kinds of people.



Some of them are, while other of them are extremely toxic due to the lack of porn.
And the phone analogy does not make sense as you are making it clear that it is a phone shop (porn game) that does not sell phones (porn). Which is a ridiculous analogy.

A better analogy would be; ice cream shop (18+ shop) now some shops sell only vanilla (pure porn) and another shop only sells chocolate (adult game). They both sell ice cream but it is about flavor.
Now, an entitled brat enters the chocolate shop and demands it to sell vanilla. Even though there is a huge banner outside that clearly says 'CHOCOLATE ONLY SHOP'. Yet the brat is stomping his feet and yelling, going to shop sites to give it a low review, and even going as far as attacking the people that like the chocolate shop because there is no vanilla flavor.

Can you see the difference?



I would say 100 times yes. As mentioned above. I have done everything to make sure to tell people what this game is. F95zone has done everything on their part to tell what this game is (reviews, comments, TAGS)
If all of those things are not enough- what is? Why even have any informational stuff if we base our whole life on baseless expectations.

This is not a porn site. This is an adult site. I don't agree that these two things are the same.
Notice how some games have the 'no sex' tag. (can't remember the name of the tag)
Why would the site have tags that say no sex when it is supposedly a pure porn site? Because it isn't. It is about the 18+ stuff. All of that can be softcore all the way to hardcore. It can be a story with only nudity and gore while it can be a game of no story but pure fuckfeast. (and both styles are perfectly fine)

Point is, let the owner of the site be the ones that determine what the site is for.



Because it would be stupid to go to each thread and write "This is a porn game, lot's of sex."
And then another thread "This is not a porn game, lot's of story"

That's why they have the tags. It's in the op. It clearly shows the current sexual stuff in the game.
So even if they ignore the reviews and the comments. There is still the tags and the faq in the main op. That should be enough. There is a limit to how much handholding there can be done. (Which is where we go back to- yes it's their own fault for being 'misled')




To end with, I respect your opinion, Drake, and please do not see it in any way or form an attack against you.
I just heavily disagree with what you're saying and will always detest those people.

One thing is disliking the game and the story. That is fine.
But acting like I am in the wrong for doing the game the way I want to do. Telling me that the site is supposed to be like this and that. How they were being misled?
B*, please. I do whatever I want. (Targeted at the entitled brats not you, Drake)
There is a breed of individuals who attempt to browbeat and force their agenda upon anyone they think they can buffalo. Even with the understanding that their position has no merit. To them it is a game to see how far they can push the boundaries... Loathsome creatures there only to cause division and strife hiding behind having an open discussion as venom drips from their lips.
 
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