JJJ84

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Guys, you know when you're following a game during development, that this is bound to happen? That with the expansion of the scope you'll have to restart because saves don't carry the data needed for new stuff? If you cannot stomach this, and I mean I get that it can be annoying and makes you push it further down the line, I suggest not playing games in development at all.
Yeah, I don't get some people saying stuff like "if I need to start from beginning, I'm abandoning the game."

I mean yes, I admit, losing progress is not a pleasant experience (since I generally like to jump in where I left off previously, no way to sugarcoat it no matter how much I want to), but as you've said, it's basically "a necessary evil" for all games in development (unless we're not getting the new gameplay mechanic implemented from 0.7).

I think this may be (I say "may" because Hopes is still testing out the gameplay mechanic to find out whether it can be implemented or not) 3rd or 4th game from f95zone where I am forced to start from the beginning again (with the incompatible save issue with the changes made in the game), so perhaps I'm a bit more immune to the situation than some of the others. But still, .....if people really can't stomach this, they'll need to "abandon" not just this, but many good or potentially good game down the line, or basically wait for a long time for them to finish.
 
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DrakteisckyG

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Is there a problem with this Update that means i need to start a new game, no matter what i do i cant seem to get any of the Isabel Content to progress, i think the last thing i managed to do is the Wine event it says its unlocked in the Gallery however in the Journal it says im yet to complete it, does this mean i need to start a new game?
Same for me, I can't trigger The Magic Touch! and that block Isabel's quests too (I waited for days but no recording or dialogue options with Grace)
I didn't try to restart the game, I will play from the beginning with the next update I guess.
 

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Yeah can't activate the fly bird "Daytime in MC's bedroom, wait a few days" mission. Do I have to start over? :/
 

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Same for me, I can't trigger The Magic Touch! and that block Isabel's quests too (I waited for days but no recording or dialogue options with Grace)
I didn't try to restart the game, I will play from the beginning with the next update I guess.
Do you have the Requirement ; "The Friends of my friend are my friends?" If so you should get a hidden recording as far as I know

Yeah can't activate the fly bird "Daytime in MC's bedroom, wait a few days" mission. Do I have to start over? :/
Most of the time when the game says wait a few days it's 3, however for that event think it might be more try sleeping a few times to skip the days and it probably starts?
 
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Why do I get the distinct impression that the creator might just harbor some strong opinions and pent-up aggression towards a certain critical subset of the playerbase? Maybe I'm reading too much into it.:rolleyes:
Seriously though, that was about as subtle as a golf club to the face.
I mean, personally I love this game since I've always been into plot heavy VNs to begin with, (I just wish it updated more frequently), but I have to say I'm pretty disappointed. Did he really waste time to render and write that entire scene just to be petty? I mean, I could talk about the rest of the update, but unfortunately the inclusion of that pointless scene kind of casts a dark shadow over the rest of it.
 

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Guys, you know when you're following a game during development, that this is bound to happen? That with the expansion of the scope you'll have to restart because saves don't carry the data needed for new stuff? If you cannot stomach this, and I mean I get that it can be annoying and makes you push it further down the line, I suggest not playing games in development at all.
Ah, so lots of people are having "old save does not work" style problems. Good to know, because i had some weird issues i was about to ask, traceback & all, but you just spared me from wasting people's time. Fresh (re)start it is then (what is probably for the best anyway as i haven't played since 0.5 at least). Thanks.
 

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I had intended to wait until v 7.0 comes out since I might have to restart for the 3rd time. 2nd was because I bought a new laptop. After reading the last 10-15 pages I decided to play this update to see what all the hoopla was about. I have now played through the opening mall scene. I will finish it but I think it has a great start with Luna and Gracie being Luna and Gracie but it give MC and Isabel a chance to talk and decide how to move forward.

Without playing the entire update I think, and I don't believe my mind will change, that all this badgering comes down to 2 issues. 1. Expectations of some people, unrealistic IMHO, that there should should be sex by now. and 2. HopesGaming statement from day 1 that this is primarily a story driven game. As has been stated many time this is an ADULT GAME and not a PORN GAME.

With that said I will now finish this update to see if my opinion changes, which I highly doubt.

For the moment I will simply say another great update HopesGaming. Rock on and don't shoot till you see the whites of their eyes.
 

ut1stgear1

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Ok I get the Filius Canis references now. Next scene is the movie theater. I think this SS sums it up quite nicely. Edit: That is a very very funny scene from start to finish. Does this mean I need to start hating on the director. :D

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BisonFan02

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I find it quite hilarious that some people are getting worked up over this scene lol.
Truth be told...it is kinda funny...but a prime reason why devs (said it with WVM burnout) maybe shouldn't frequent here if they can't deflect the BS that fills these threads. Other than a satire joke, it really added ZERO to the story and was kinda a waste of dev time. If he had fun making it, I guess good for him. haha
 

JJJ84

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Truth be told...it is kinda funny...but a prime reason why devs (said it with WVM burnout) maybe shouldn't frequent here if they can't deflect the BS that fills these threads. Other than a satire joke, it really added ZERO to the story and was kinda a waste of dev time. If he had fun making it, I guess good for him. haha
Don't worry. Making that scene didn't take that long, heh. Notice how I didn't even spend time on adding music to the scene. I was writing the scene after the mall scene and was thinking of a proper transition event between em (like with the car scene with mc, luna, and gracie) and suddenly thought of this. It was a fun little thing to do.
 

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Fair enough...note my last sentence. haha It's just a thought...and THAT was how he wanted to transition to another scene? Like I said...I think its funny (believe me....I'll never be accused of ever defending the lionshare of whatever happens here)... but some things just aren't worth it. haha
 

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How does mocking/attacking your fans help to increase your patrons? There's a lot of fine choices on this site, and fans know what they like and why. Has it ever been addressed if the MC's still a virgin? Couldn't he have sex with an old GF, prostitute, and/or DeLuca (not nuclear family) gang member as well? LOL, is Uncle Wilfred celibate?
 
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How does mocking/attacking your fans help to increase your patrons? There's a lot of fine choices on this site, and fans know what they like and why. Has it ever been addressed if the MC's still a virgin? Couldn't he have sex with an old GF, prostitute, and/or DeLuca (not nuclear family) gang member as well? LOL, is Uncle Wilfred celibate?
It probably doesn't except he was mostly poking fun at those bitching/complaining about a game they play for free...how many of "those" are actually fans and patrons...or will ever be ones?
 
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