sadboi242

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That's precisely what I'm talking about. Threads like this one, AWAM, Being a Dik (my favorite game BTW) or similar titles don't accept criticisms. I rarely, very rarely comment on those threads precisely for this reason. As soon as you don't follow the herd, you have 10 pplz facepalming your comment and being agressive, even if you don't troll or anything. Just expressing thoughts became a luxury in those particular threads.
I rarely post in BaDik because of this. And its always the same 10 people in the circlejerk that get hostile.
 
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DanteRed

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That's precisely what I'm talking about. Threads like this one, AWAM, Being a Dik (my favorite game BTW) or similar titles don't accept criticisms.
Wait, which game is AWAM? I'm drawing a blank here. Also, BaDIK is one of my favorites as well and while I don't watch that thread due to spoilers for season 2, I did follow it for it a bit once season 1 was out. I know what you mean regarding the criticism.
 

WhiteyG

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That's precisely what I'm talking about. Threads like this one, AWAM, Being a Dik (my favorite game BTW) or similar titles don't accept criticisms. I rarely, very rarely comment on those threads precisely for this reason. As soon as you don't follow the herd, you have 10 pplz facepalming your comment and being agressive, even if you don't troll or anything. Just expressing thoughts became a luxury in those particular threads.
It was only a joke man. I didn't facepalm you or call you any names. I'm a huge fan of this game and like everyone else who likes this game I would love to see updates happen quickly. However I understand that Hopes works a full time job and is doing this in his spare time. The only people that really catch hell in this thread are those that act like Hopes is making a fortune and should have a large team cranking out updates. I have no problem with you or anyone else that gives legitimate criticism, but the idiots that want to come in here and call the fans idiots and Hopes a milker that's a different story.
 

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That is the life of a game in development. Sometimes what is being worked on is the 'mechanical stuff' and side characters.
I release based on the overall game status instead of episodic.
Yes I understand Hope.
Thanks for letting me rant a bit and handling it maturely.
My favourite developer for a reason xD
Hopefully next update after this upcoming update will be focused on 1 of the main girls minimum :p
God Speed Hope
 

Kakato

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I rarely post in BaDik because of this. And its always the same 10 people in the circlejerk that get hostile.
Yeah and I know who you are talking about. I just hate that behavior. They act as if the thread belongs to them and monopolize every damn discussion/debate. It's really frustrating. If you go against their theories/ideas/points/whatever, you are going to face a hard time. And Staff members/mods don't do anything about that.

Every thread here belong to everyone. Not a portion of pplz who think they hold the absolute truth. Never thought I'd say that, but sometimes, I think I understand the dude who created multiple accounts to shitpost everywhere. This was probably a member who got tired of being tossed around by those pplz. When you think about it, he didn't choose his targets on a whim.
 

HopesGaming

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That's precisely what I'm talking about. Threads like this one, AWAM, Being a Dik (my favorite game BTW) or similar titles don't accept criticisms. I rarely, very rarely comment on those threads precisely for this reason. As soon as you don't follow the herd, you have 10 pplz facepalming your comment and being agressive, even if you don't troll or anything. Just expressing thoughts became a luxury in those particular threads.
It all depends on what the 'criticism' is and very much how it is being said.

For some 'fucking scammer dev is purposely not working on the game' is a valid criticism.
For me and many others - it is not.

Stuff like 'is the next update going to take as long? Why are the update take so long?"
Then the common answer is "hobby game, new code change, etc."
Sometimes they ask it literally one post below someone who just got it answered and people can get annoyed with that.
I ofc just say that it is a hobby but will always aim to improve that part.

And circling back.
Dude: 'This game must have sex now!'
Me: 'No. Don't wanna.'
Dude: 'Can't take criticism!'

So, yeah. I think it is overall the idea of what is criticism and what is just annoying self-entitlement that many seems to get wrong.
 

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That's precisely what I'm talking about. Threads like this one, AWAM, Being a Dik (my favorite game BTW) or similar titles don't accept criticisms.
Thats to harsch to say it. The only ones that are being - to use your therm - "stoned" are trolls that come here and start to accuse of milking and become extremely toxic.


Wait, which game is AWAM?
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That's precisely what I'm talking about. Threads like this one, AWAM, Being a Dik (my favorite game BTW) or similar titles don't accept criticisms. I rarely, very rarely comment on those threads precisely for this reason. As soon as you don't follow the herd, you have 10 pplz facepalming your comment and being agressive, even if you don't troll or anything. Just expressing thoughts became a luxury in those particular threads.
Can't speak for others and I sure sometimes also have a short fuse, but I don't get offendend and agressive over normal dispute. Your hear me?!:ROFLMAO:
So write down your opinion and be active, the more the merrier.

PS: I try to keep Floaty off your back.;)
 
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Kakato

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Ok, I'll put an end to this " stone " thing. hahaha.I might have been too harsh using this word. Sorry about that. Let's change it to " disrespected " :)
 

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For the record I welcome facepalms. I take them as middle school likes :)

I do give facepalms for questions repeated ad nauseum. It just gets so old.

But I don't think they should be interpreted as malicious, that is most often shit people post that gets deleted anyway.

Looking forward to this still. I have been replaying a couple other games that released this past month so I do not feel the edge of pain from waiting on this one.

(I wish I could LOL at the reactions sometimes. Thanks WhiteyG )
 

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It all depends on what the 'criticism' is and very much how it is being said.

For some 'fucking scammer dev is purposely not working on the game' is a valid criticism.
For me and many others - it is not.

Stuff like 'is the next update going to take as long? Why are the update take so long?"
Then the common answer is "hobby game, new code change, etc."
Sometimes they ask it literally one post below someone who just got it answered and people can get annoyed with that.
I ofc just say that it is a hobby but will always aim to improve that part.

And circling back.
Dude: 'This game must have sex now!'
Me: 'No. Don't wanna.'
Dude: 'Can't take criticism!'

So, yeah. I think it is overall the idea of what is criticism and what is just annoying self-entitlement that many seems to get wrong.
Problem is, with some of these people, their "criticism" is more often than not isn't constructive at all, and it turns in most cases "I demand this XYZ and you're not giving it to me!" Your Filius event portrayed those situations like hitting a nail on its head lol.

I have plenty of questions to ask you, but for now I'll just ask one:

1) Regarding Lore, I remember you mentioning around the time when you were still finishing off Isabel's events, that there will be a Lore Section added in the main menu of the game.
Any chance you'll add that section sometime between now and the next normal update (so it's basically a lore section addition only update), or is it still the plan for lore to be added alongside the next freeroam or story update?

Love the history, backstory of the conflicts between the Families and the characters, so I just wanted to ask.
 
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WhiteyG

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Can't speak for others and I sure sometimes also have a short fuse, but I don't get offendend and agressive over normal dispute. Your hear me?!:ROFLMAO:
So write down your opinion and be active, the more the merrier.

PS: I try to keep Floaty off your back.;)
Exactly the more the merrier. It's fairly friendly thread that's been my experience anyway, and we'll try and keep HornyyPussy on his meds.

:ROFLMAO: You're welcome jaw1986baby anytime.
 
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HopesGaming

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Problem is, with some of these people, their "criticism" is more often than not isn't constructive at all, and it turns in most cases "I demand this XYZ and you're not giving it to me!" Your Filius event portrayed those situations like hitting a nail on its head lol.

I have plenty of questions to ask you, but for now I'll just ask one:

1) Regarding Lore, I remember you mentioning around the time when you were still finishing off Isabel's events, that there will be a Lore Section added in the main menu of the game.
Add chance you'll add that section sometime between now and the next normal update (so it's basically a lore section addition only update), or is it still the plan for lore to be added alongside the next freeroam or story update?

Love the history, backstory of the conflicts between the Families and the characters, so I just wanted to ask.
The lore will probably be added in between the one that will be released in a few days and the next one.
Had to priorities the lore section a bit down due to all the new things.
 

HornyyPussy

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Exactly the more the merrier. It's fairly friendly thread that's been my experience anyway, and we'll try and keep HornyyPussy on his meds.

psst C3PO it's off his back not of his back.
I'd take offense to that if i cared..........

But i couldn't have said it any better than Hopes did earlier about the "hostility" in this thread. Constructive criticism is always welcome.
 

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I'm excited to see a new update. I have been a Patron in the past and for good reason...it's a really great game. I personally just want a great story and any good "adult" content is just a bonus to me. This is also definitely one of the games that inspired me to try game development too so I am very happy to see a new update is coming! :)
 

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Also, we haven't had a decent facepalming session in what feels like weeks ... ;)

I think one major problem with discussion forums is an inherent bias. I mean, there's loads of games here which are just objectively incredibly bad (the technical term I think is "do not hit all of my personal sweet spots"). So I ignore them and their respective threads and focus on those of games I am interested in. So most people on this thread will see the game more favorably than the average conoisseur of perversions.

But yeah, flaws can be pointed out and questions need to be allowed to be asked without hostility from the resident White Knight Light Brigade (at this point I am ever so incospiciously and proudly pointing at my badge of the very same, three stars on it under a laurel leaf). And also the dev. And indeed it doesn't always happen. Since I do not know any of the threads mentioned earlier, I can only talk of this one. Here, sometimes criticism comes in a not very constructive way. Especially when people obviously are infatuated with a game but it doesn't update quickly enough, content isn't enough, or the story took a wrong turn and focussed on the wrong character. They tend to talk everything of the game down, not only the part they dislike, and that gets harsh criticism, and they tend to personally attack others who like this shit.

And that's when sometimes people go overboard with defending against valid criticism. It doesn't have to be correct criticism, just valid, i. e. making a point and explaining it. Then, when I disagree, I can defend the game. But I must change my tone from the one used towards the trolls and other insufferable excuses for the human race, that is true. However, the general trend seems to be - unfortunately - to take any criticism and/or disagreement personal.
 
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