Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[whichone]

Als, as other already pointed out, we don't know what Dominico is capable of. Is he really is MC rival I would think that he would be on the same power level as the MC himself. So if the MC isn't impressed by Dominico's showcase fight then I assume it is because he hasn't seen his full potential yet.

Being a rival just means that they are competing for the same goal.
It doesn't automatically mean that they are at the same skill level.
We do know that MC will only show "just enough" skill to beat his opponent.
This makes me think that MC is looking at Dominico, who is putting on a show, and recognising that he is not a threat.
I think, as you suggest, that this could be a situation where MC has underestimated his opponent.
Maybe Dominico only did was necessary to beat the other 2 & has a lot more in his bag...

This will, presumably, be settled at the Frenetico.

 

[JJJ84]

With this, we do not know if it is intentionally done by the MC, or if it's just something that comes naturally to him.
It may not be surreptitiously chosen by him, perhaps it's just autonomic?

We also do not know what his current upper limit is.
He saved Luna & beat the quasi-Capo, all while appearing totally out of his depth & bewildered.
The Contracts also add to his accomplishments.
He outsmarted the Nuns. He took total charge of the Snooping Bonans, with Leilanna (can't remember her rank, is she Elite?).

I wonder if/when the MC will face a challenge he cannot (yet) overcome...
Perhaps Dominico can give him the Hero's Journey failure, before the Frenetico, then MC faces him in the tournament, expected to lose again, but pulls off the win using knowledge learned in the defeat?

Well, at the moment, he feels content with where he is at, being at Soldato and not wanting to advance.
He's never felted the need (or desire) to become stronger yet.
When he, along with his rival get their training from the 4 Serpents some time later in the story, I think would be the time where he realizes before then that just his "survival mode" and "doing barely enough" to beat the opponents is no longer enough.

I mean it could happen when MC comes up against a much higher ranked member of an opposing Family. But it would be really interesting for me if MC does take a loss against Dominico in a practice match that really gets heated (and ends with Dominico pulling an unexpected move that MC didn't expect at all).

And like you said in Frenetico, MC gets serious and goes all out (no holding back) with Dominico in their spectacular bout that is close and with MC winning in the end (with loud applause from many in the stands, if there are any in the stadium. I'm guessing there are lol. And MC and Dominico's bout is talked about for a long time even after the Tournament is over).

Seen some say before that they think (and wish) MC is gonna last a long time in this world just using his "survival mode" and "doing just enough" attributes, but I disagree, and personally am not a fan of that route in terms of story.
One can only go so far without improvement, and if MC continues rising in ranks more and more without showing his limit and getting some training, sooner or later plausibility of it all drops significantly.

 

[whichone]

Well, at the moment, he feels content with where he is at, being at Soldato and not wanting to advance.
He's never felted the need (or desire) to become stronger yet.
When he, along with his rival get their training from the 4 Serpents some time later in the story, I think would be the time where he realizes before then that just his "survival mode" and "doing barely enough" to beat the opponents is no longer enough.

I mean it could happen when MC comes up against a much higher ranked member of an opposing Family. But it would be really interesting for me if MC does take a loss against Dominico in a practice match that really gets heated (and ends with Dominico pulling an unexpected move that MC didn't expect at all).

And like you said in Frenetico, MC gets serious and goes all out (no holding back) with Dominico in their spectacular bout that is close and with MC winning in the end (with loud applause from many in the stands, if there are any in the stadium. I'm guessing there are lol. And MC and Dominico's bout is talked about for a long time even after the Tournament is over).

Seen some say before that they think (and wish) MC is gonna last a long time in this world just using his "survival mode" and "doing just enough" attributes, but I disagree, and personally am not a fan of that route in terms of story.
One can only go so far without improvement, and if MC continues rising in ranks more and more without showing his limit and getting some training, sooner or later plausibility of it all drops significantly.

Yeah, being naturally good will only take you so far.
Without practice & training others, with lower natural skill, can overtake your competency quite quickly.
I wonder if the Contracts are not MC's training ground?
So, without the skills, he cannot take charge with Leilanna as much and certainly doesn't command the respect of the Nuns, who send him on a wild goose chase.
Compared to when he has the skills and they don't even attempt it with him.
All those failures, with the old Soldato, etc. which we can now complete easily, maybe they're indicative of the MC's progress?

 

[Cartageno]

Without practice & training others, with lower natural skill, can overtake your competency quite quickly.

To quote Sir Terry Pratchett:

"If you trust in yourself ... and believe in your dreams ... and follow your star ... you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy."

 

[JJJ84]

Yeah, being naturally good will only take you so far.
Without practice & training others, with lower natural skill, can overtake your competency quite quickly.
I wonder if the Contracts are not MC's training ground?
So, without the skills, he cannot take charge with Leilanna as much and certainly doesn't command the respect of the Nuns, who send him on a wild goose chase.
Compared to when he has the skills and they don't even attempt it with him.
All those failures, with the old Soldato, etc. which we can now complete easily, maybe they're indicative of the MC's progress?

Perhaps (regarding contracts being training).
And perhaps Frenetico is like the Midterms or the Finals in terms of test of their abilities (in a non-lethal way).

Though even with the contracts and the MC's stats increasing, he always held back hiding what he can really do (as with Gildart's assessment of MC's fight with the Quasi-Capo).

Don't know how others feel about this, but I'd actually love to see situations where for MC, holding back is no longer an option.

Not saying this has to happen immediately, but I'd say probably when MC is at the rank of Elite Soldato (for a while) may just be a reasonable time for it to happen. Since only especially high level proven soldiers reach Capo rank, and if MC reaches that rank, the facade of "being underestimated" really fades for the most part, since the rank speaks for itself).

 

[whichone]

Don't know how others feel about this, but I'd actually love to see situations where for MC, holding back is no longer an option.

Not saying this has to happen immediately, but I'd say probably when MC is at the rank of Elite Soldato (for a while) may just be a reasonable time for it to happen. Since only especially high level proven soldiers reach Capo rank, and if MC reaches that rank, the facade of "being underestimated" really fades for the most part, since the rank speaks for itself).

I think this will happen naturally.
I mean, there's clearly a Mysterious Six showdown coming. I imagine the 6 will be pretty highly skilled & MC will be pushed to, at least, his maximum.
Could certainly see that being something which warrants his promotion to Capo &, as you say, everyone will be aware of how badass he is, by that point.
The reputation from taking down the M6 is big enough, on its own. Add being a Capo to that, a position which commands respect on its own, yeah, he can't stay under the radar forever.

I definitely agree, that it feels as though he's going to have some situation/opponent that he underestimates. Everything points to Dominico, for this.
As we said before, I think the Frenetico will be his comeback & will give others a glimpse of what he's really capable of, but even that won't be him at maximum capability.
It's gonna take something big, like a fight with the M6, to push him all the way.

 

[Angelsong]

For users who run Linux and receive an error when opening the game, try this:

Delete the following folders from 0.7.2 and see if that works:

lib/pythonlib2.7
lib/linux-i686/eggs
lib/linux-i686/lib
lib/linux-x86_64/eggs
lib/linux-x86_64/lib

Currently works for me. Found this post from a pinned message on The Deluca Family's Discord. Seems that Ren'Py SDK 7.3.5 files got mixed back in accidentally. I hope they fix this next update but in the mean time this should do it.

 

[scythe_pol]

Seems to work. Thank you !

But....Well; the former version I used to play was more complete or I don't understand this new game play. Impossible to make money and we cant go further in the story If I dont have money but cant have money if i cant do missions but cant do missions if cant get more xp/money.... This is an impossible grinding. How does-it works currently ? in the past, wasn't a problem since missions were doable and not that technical. Now I'm stuck on the story unable du buy anything needed to do nothing and trying those impossible missions make me loose money and gain nothing.

Any idea to get at least enough money to go further than the firsts few minutes of the game ?

 

[Lord Verminaard]

Seems to work. Thank you !

But....Well; the former version I used to play was more complete or I don't understand this new game play. Impossible to make money and we cant go further in the story If I dont have money but cant have money if i cant do missions but cant do missions if cant get more xp/money.... This is an impossible grinding. How does-it works currently ? in the past, wasn't a problem since missions were doable and not that technical. Now I'm stuck on the story unable du buy anything needed to do nothing and trying those impossible missions make me loose money and gain nothing.

Any idea to get at least enough money to go further than the firsts few minutes of the game ?

There is playthrought for contracts in the OP. Apart from it, first progress in the story line, the punishment mission gives you 300. Spend starting money on stealth gear and that 300 for Lunas mission "Gracies gunned down jeans". After that play nimble fingers for a time, stealing jewelery from the house. Repeat it until you have enough money to progress in girls stories, their missions give you the stats you need. When "Promotion" event opens do it because it gives you 1000 and good gear.

New system a bit harder at the start but after you get use to it, you realize it is very good.

 

[Cartageno]

To add to the lords's information: advance the girls' storylines as fast as you can. They will add some much needed extra points to your abilities and sometimes give out good amounts of money.

 

[Dragon59]

To add to the lords's information: advance the girls' storylines as fast as you can. They will add some much needed extra points to your abilities and sometimes give out good amounts of money.

Realizing I didn't have the stats for a full score on a contract, I played the needed side story for a few more scenes to buff MC's stats a bit.

 

[Bassio]

sorry for the question from version 7.1 to version 7.2 is there any difference in terms of story content?

 

[MrLKX]

sorry for the question from version 7.1 to version 7.2 is there any difference in terms of story content?

Only some bugfixes.

 

[JJJ84]

sorry for the question from version 7.1 to version 7.2 is there any difference in terms of story content?

None. Some upgraded GUI and the fact you can now see what MC is equipped with for his contracts in MC's profile section.
For information on what is changed between versions, it is easier if you take a look at the Changelog in the OP.

 

[Grubb Raines]

Is there a way to remove the flashing arrow in bottom right of the text box?

 

[JJJ84]

Is there a way to remove the flashing arrow in bottom right of the text box?

lol I've been playing this game for a long time, and haven't even noticed that flashing arrow you're referring to until you brought it up now.
I'm playing on PC (so can't speak for people who play on smaller screens like Android), and there those arrows are tiny that I don't find them to be a big deal.

 

[dickfaced]

Can anyone do better than this?

 

[JJJ84]

How did you gain Green on Delivery Boy?

This has me curious as well .

 

[Cartageno]

I know that we've covered all endings, between us. Not sure if anyone's done them all on one save.
I wonder if Green is gained by having completed all endings, including waiting by the flag for Wilfred?

I am pretty certain I covered all three. I am even more certain that mine is yellow. Not a guarantee but IMO: that's not it.

 

[JJJ84]

I know that we've covered all endings, between us. Not sure if anyone's done them all on one save.
I wonder if Green is gained by having completed all endings, including waiting by the flag for Wilfred?

I just tested it out (waited on and on with the flag instead of screw it and going back), and color still stays the same, no change.