AL.d

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I've often felt that the labels Visual Novel and Kinetic Novel are misapplied. Kinetic Novel sounds like a novel that has more interaction. Yes, I know that the term Visual Novel was first, but Kinetic Novel sounds more dynamic than merely "visual."
I don't get why it's called "kinetic" either, since it's non-interactive, but it is what is...

Not so sure about the first part actually. Yes, the idea of RenPy is easing the creation of VNs but people made very un-VN-like stuff over the years and we can even make this go further. It is possible to make a calculator in RenPy. Not the best way to program a calculator for sure, and probably not the most comfortable calculator to use later on, but a calculator it would be. And as countless students will attest to, that ain't a game ;)

Completely agree about the question of text amount being removed from any "game or no" discussion though.
Well yes, you can do more than VN with it. But its creators made it as a VN engine. And anyone using it for other genres is probably punishing themselves. I 've seen games with custom rpg combat mechanics in Renpy and left wondering why the hell can't you use the engine that is actually made for rpg combat...I get the feeling it usually happens to devs who aren't completely sure what game they started making. Something that kinda happened to this one too I think.
 
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Cartageno

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Well yes, you can do more than VN with it. But its creators made it as a VN engine. And anyone using it for other genres is probably punishing themselves. I 've seen games with custom rpg combat mechanics in Renpy and left wondering why the hell can't you use the engine that is actually made for rpg combat...I get the feeling it usually happens to devs who aren't completely sure what game they started making. Something that kinda happened to this one too I think.
The latter I get. Even if ignoring the annoying RPGM movement (which you can - but it isn't made for it, so you can already punish yourself here as well) the mechanics are very specific and maybe you do not want that JRPG style to begin with. Also many other things about RPGM are more uncomfortable for the player which you might want to avoid.
 
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Well, game engines doesn't really belongs here. Nevertheless, for what use something was intended and for what someone use it are two completely different aspects.
I think, I've seen somewhere that one has made a file manager with Ren'py or something like that.
 

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Hi all. By all you should know who I mean. Not you JJJ.

Anyway I liked the update. Obviously it was very short. I’m a little upset. Not pitchfork upset, more like spork upset. Can't be to mad because I know more is coming soon. If not I am prepared to break out the chilled salad fork. Just saying I wouldn’t fuck around you know. ;)
 
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One of the best games i have ever played don't hesitate just downloand it the story is very interesting graphics could be better but still its pretty good
 

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I think it's a mistake in the new Isabel dialog when talking about what PC did with Gracie before. It says that Gracie is saying the line, instead of Isabel.
 

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So im confused - I just finished the current playthrough, what exactly did 9.0 add? Because it feels the exact same as last version, aside from the Grace/family dinner table at very end.

But all the missions are the same, all the quests are the same (I did notice the spycams were new as opposed to just audio). I love this overall universe and this game is in my top 5 so I was kinda disappointed to see not a whole lot of new game scene stuff (there may have been a lot more of the cutscene segment renders added I dont know, as I usually just blow through those).
 

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So im confused - I just finished the current playthrough, what exactly did 9.0 add? Because it feels the exact same as last version, aside from the Grace/family dinner table at very end.

But all the missions are the same, all the quests are the same (I did notice the spycams were new as opposed to just audio). I love this overall universe and this game is in my top 5 so I was kinda disappointed to see not a whole lot of new game scene stuff (there may have been a lot more of the cutscene segment renders added I dont know, as I usually just blow through those).
v0.09 added the following (in comparison to v0.08):

- TriaQuaedam : basically it was a Isabel lewd event, but it's categorized as a Main Event
- Cogwheel : Story 11 from Main story. Ombra Family arc
- Death of a princess: Story 12 from Main story. Gracie/Family dinner table event you mentioned. Season 1 finale event.
 
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Dr Huge Vee

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Well I was thinking Dev said the rest of the content of the update will come next month So any private conversation with Dev about it
 

uhhhok

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Well I was thinking Dev said the rest of the content of the update will come next month So any private conversation with Dev about it
nah, wait till end of the month, since it is February, it will be here early, just a couple of weeks and next update will be released.

who knows, we can even get it early cuz hopes said he has done all that content, it is just that he was not happy with it, so some changed here and there, proofreading and testing is all left.
 
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nah, wait till end of the month, since it is February, it will be here early, just a couple of weeks and next update will be released.

who knows, we can even get it early cuz hopes said he has done all that content, it is just that he was not happy with it, so some changed here and there, proofreading and testing is all left
so I think i remember correctly that this update will be purely contract related and no story
 

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so I think i remember correctly that this update will be purely contract related and no story
yes, majority of story of season 1 is done in this update, dev says in upcoming one we will some misc. content, event and contracts.

I am very excited to play contracts, even though story is the main part, since hopes has given such importance and time and efforts on contracts, I am sure they will be fucking brilliant.
 
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