- Sep 18, 2018
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You discovered what looks like porn right? Doesn't mean she is a porn actor.
- Sep 7, 2019
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If it's not commercial porn it's amateur porn, no difference, a main LI ruined.
I know the saying is "Show, don't tell" but sometimes it's better to tell and not show. Like why did I need to see that Hailey "thing"? She could've been an interesting character but now she goes straight to the bin.
Also to the dev you can't say...
"Hailey has done some porn in the past as some have seen."
"Where did I say she was a porn star?"
"You discovered something that looks like porn, doesn't mean she's a porn star."
Maybe I'm just stupid but this just doesn't make any sense to me.
Also to the dev you can't say...
"Hailey has done some porn in the past as some have seen."
"Where did I say she was a porn star?"
"You discovered something that looks like porn, doesn't mean she's a porn star."
Maybe I'm just stupid but this just doesn't make any sense to me.
Okay let me clarify. Porn is considered any sexual content correct? So me saying you have seen her porn, should make sense. Now that doesn't mean she is a porn actor. Something is fishy about it, yes. It was placed there to inquire about, if that's not for you that's perfectly fine. I understand why you feel that way, just know her story began with that scene.
Apart from Lins first interaction, all things will have a choice. You will always get to choose your fate, girl, and sometimes how they are (Mono or Sharing *with MC*)
Apart from Lins first interaction, all things will have a choice. You will always get to choose your fate, girl, and sometimes how they are (Mono or Sharing *with MC*)
Yes definitley tell us if there is NTR, this is a real turnoff to a lot of people and it would be real nice if we can totally avoid such abusive kinks. Also why can't we say NO to Lin, she is ugly and not sexy at all - this is sexual harassment as the MC works for her and it should be his choice to participate or not
Lancastle:
First thanks so much for the Mac release!
A most excellent VN. Really sound technically. Love all the ladies. Writing is sound and I enjoyed the pace. Looking forward for the dark/light struggle to emerge and those choices become clearer. Really enjoyable to play, thanks to you and the rest of the crew for all of your hard work.
First thanks so much for the Mac release!
A most excellent VN. Really sound technically. Love all the ladies. Writing is sound and I enjoyed the pace. Looking forward for the dark/light struggle to emerge and those choices become clearer. Really enjoyable to play, thanks to you and the rest of the crew for all of your hard work.
Actually my guess was something racially different than her doing porn. RADICALLY different. I'll wait quietly to see if my suspicions prove out...
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Yeah a porn actress gets paid, she is happy to do a train for free?
Very different!
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Lmao I don't know about you guys, but I'm laughing so damn hard with MC pants
thanks, dev, I haven't laughed like that in a long time
thanks, dev, I haven't laughed like that in a long time
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I see sharing/swinging content with that character in this games future. (why else would it have that in it).
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Honestly to me, it seems like it be better to just come out and say what the "reveal" is especially since I think you said in another post it will be revealed in the next conversation with her anyway. If she actually made a porno, or even just a single porn picture, most people won't care about the context. That's enough for many to not just drop her as a love interest but to drop the game entirely. Because it will seem like it sets a precedent that you're willing to show LI's getting fucked by other guys in a fake out picture, in their past, against the girl's will, or whatever the context. And it will feel to many like it was done just to screw with the players expectations or cause drama. They will always be waiting now for the same shoe to drop about a different girl. Not saying that's right, but that's how it often is and how many developers have ended up doing this kind of stuff.
You seem like a developer who really cares about their game and wants to interact with the community and that's awesome and should be commended. So, I'm just trying to give my thoughts on the matter. Though, it is also hard for me to rationalize how *showing* a love interest, after she has clearly been established to be a love interest, getting banged (by two guys apparently) even in her past is not there to cause jealousy and uneasy in the MC and/or player which is basically the site definition of NTR. Now, you've said it isn't, but I'm just trying to explain why that's a disconnect some people are feeling.
Note: I actually don't hate sharing content (one of my favorite VN's has sharing content) I just want to have a say in seeing it and have it become an option after I know the characters and if I want to share a girl with them. I don't even dislike NTR if it is avoidable (and not just skippable). I just want to know what to expect going into a game.
I'm not saying all the girls have to be virgins or something (though that would be good too,
), and can't have sexual history. I actually like hearing about the LI's pasts if it helps build up their character. Key word, *hearing*. I just think we don't need to see that kind of stuff. I'm always of the belief that most players are here to see the MC score with the love interests and time spend rendering scenes with other guys would be better spend adding scenes with the MC and the girls. If a girl has a sexual history or trauma, or past event that involves sex that needs to be brought up for story purpose, then a line or two of dialog is usually more than enough to get the point across for the player.I have a long list of games that I'm waiting to download and usually a game I find goes to the bottom of that list unless it has something setting it apart (such as unique renders or an interest setting). Urban-Fantasy is my favorite genre and there are too few games of that type out there. So, this game was jumped up to the top of my "to download" list when I saw it. But I like to read the last page of a thread before I download a game and so I did that here. And now I'm not sure what mindset I'm supposed to have going into it.
PS: The last line there about "sharing *with MC*" is a little oddly worded. Like are there LI's that to get we have to accept someone else sharing them with us? Or are there like a pair of bisexual girls who offer to share one another with the MC? There are a bunch of different ways that can be taken, could you add some clarity to what you mean by it?
PPS: Sorry for the rambling. I'm just wordy and have lots of thoughts.
I'll probably download the game anyway because I love Urban-Fantasy and if the game has regular updates and good content going forward, I'll toss some cash your way later. So, please don't think anything I said was a demand or me telling you what to do. I'm just giving some thoughts on the whole issue.
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Maybe just to ruin her character for so many people, dunno why but that's what it achieved.
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Thanks for your input. You do touch some valid points. I didn't do this to Hailie to "Ruin" her or for anyone. I also get, showing is a risk vs telling. In this update you find out she couldn't talk about it. I won't ruin anything for the update though. I will say this. If you want to commit to one solo you will choose this, if you want to share you will also choose this. I am not a fan of tricks and being played. I do like mystery and some confusing situations that will be more clear later. I hope that is understandable and makes more sense.Honestly to me, it seems like it be better to just come out and say what the "reveal" is especially since I think you said in another post it will be revealed in the next conversation with her anyway. If she actually made a porno, or even just a single porn picture, most people won't care about the context. That's enough for many to not just drop her as a love interest but to drop the game entirely. Because it will seem like it sets a precedent that you're willing to show LI's getting fucked by other guys in a fake out picture, in their past, against the girl's will, or whatever the context. And it will feel to many like it was done just to screw with the players expectations or cause drama. They will always be waiting now for the same shoe to drop about a different girl. Not saying that's right, but that's how it often is and how many developers have ended up doing this kind of stuff.
You seem like a developer who really cares about their game and wants to interact with the community and that's awesome and should be commended. So, I'm just trying to give my thoughts on the matter. Though, it is also hard for me to rationalize how *showing* a love interest, after she has clearly been established to be a love interest, getting banged (by two guys apparently) even in her past is not there to cause jealousy and uneasy in the MC and/or player which is basically the site definition of NTR. Now, you've said it isn't, but I'm just trying to explain why that's a disconnect some people are feeling.
Note: I actually don't hate sharing content (one of my favorite VN's has sharing content) I just want to have a say in seeing it and have it become an option after I know the characters and if I want to share a girl with them. I don't even dislike NTR if it is avoidable (and not just skippable). I just want to know what to expect going into a game.
I'm not saying all the girls have to be virgins or something (though that would be good too,
I have a long list of games that I'm waiting to download and usually a game I find goes to the bottom of that list unless it has something setting it apart (such as unique renders or an interest setting). Urban-Fantasy is my favorite genre and there are too few games of that type out there. So, this game was jumped up to the top of my "to download" list when I saw it. But I like to read the last page of a thread before I download a game and so I did that here. And now I'm not sure what mindset I'm supposed to have going into it.
PS: The last line there about "sharing *with MC*" is a little oddly worded. Like are there LI's that to get we have to accept someone else sharing them with us? Or are there like a pair of bisexual girls who offer to share one another with the MC? There are a bunch of different ways that can be taken, could you add some clarity to what you mean by it?
PPS: Sorry for the rambling. I'm just wordy and have lots of thoughts.
Sharing will be with MC only as of guys and girls... not certain just yet. Only plan for MFF as of right now.
- Dec 1, 2021
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Thank you for responding!
I just played the game (I was actually typing this as you posted your response,
) and I have to say, it looks like you're either going for a Hailie was mind controlled or maybe it isn't her and it just looks like her (like an unknown twin, a double, or something else). But if she was mind controlled, and the MC was mind controlled but he remembered, then she ought to remember so I don't think that the route you're going, could be wrong.I am interested in the way you're taking it, but I can see why it's rubbing people the wrong way. There is maybe a concern that if it's mind control then maybe the other girls could have been mind controlled too. Like at the back of some people minds now is the question of when does the Sasha or Svarin's mind control sex tape show up?
I still think it may be in the best interest of keeping viewers to be forthright and just come out with at least the basics of the reveal. Like saying, "It isn't really what it seems," or "She didn't really do what you think," or something. But that's up to you and it could help the issue but may not, its a gamble either way.
I did enjoy the content so far so I will be looking forward to the next update.
I do shed more light onto why MC remembers in part 2, working on this right now actually lol. MC starts to break the control which I call "Corruption"Thank you for responding!
I just played the game (I was actually typing this as you posted your response,
I am interested in the way you're taking it, but I can see why it's rubbing people the wrong way. There is maybe a concern that if it's mind control then maybe the other girls could have been mind controlled too. Like at the back of some people minds now is the question of when does the Sasha or Svarin's mind control sex tape show up?
I still think it may be in the best interest of keeping viewers to be forthright and just come out with at least the basics of the reveal. Like saying, "It isn't really what it seems," or "She didn't really do what you think," or something. But that's up to you and it could help the issue but may not, its a gamble either way.
I did enjoy the content so far so I will be looking forward to the next update.
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Looked for the multiple penetrations tag. Will there be lots of DP scenes? I need DP scenes (MMF or orgy or whatever) or its a waste of my time.
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