Joshy92

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I do love the game there are just a few little things I'm not really sold on yet. And is thirteen chapters going to be enough to give a satisfying conclusion to all these different story threads?

I don't know maybe I'm just being picky or something.
 
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I do love the game there are just a few little things I'm not really sold on yet. And is thirteen chapters going to be enough to give a satisfying conclusion to all these different story threads?

I don't know maybe I'm just being picky or something.
The main thing that's not really for me is the Clem femdom thing. I am ok with her corrupting and pushing Kat a bit, but ultimately I think that should be Luke and them doing it as a couple or Kat doing stuff with Luke's full knowledge and consent.
I know that many people want Kat to cheat on Luke as that is their kink, but for me it wouldn't suit this game or them as a couple.
 

Joshy92

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The main thing that's not really for me is the Clem femdom thing. I am ok with her corrupting and pushing Kat a bit, but ultimately I think that should be Luke and them doing it as a couple or with Luke's full knowledge and consent.
I know that many people want Kat to cheat on Luke as that is their kink, but for me it wouldn't suit this game.
For me it's the drug storyline that seems a bit weird. And the way Luke thinks and acts sometimes is not cool imo.
Especially when he didn't tell Kath that he touched Clem's boob or that her mum tried to suck him off.
 
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Yeah for me when it comes to the cheating thing from Kat it really depends on how things develop. Right now yeah wouldn't suit the game either but if something happens later I can see it. Like a big / Major fight with Luke and that leads to him making Kat cry and feel like shit ( depending on choices) , and someone comforts her then I can see it then.
 
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For me it's the drug storyline that seems a bit weird. And the way Luke thinks and acts sometimes is not cool imo.
Especially when he didn't tell Kath that he touched Clem's boob or that her mum tried to suck him off.
Yeah the drug storyline can push consent out of the window also as the person is under the influence so cannot consent. I think the dev needs to be careful with this as I believe it's also against Patreon's rules. To have content where someone is having sex with drunk or drugged, even if it is just art.

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It is paramount that Adult/18+ creators demonstrate consent in all works (real or animated; photo, video, written, audio) between adult participants or characters; specifically, a freely given, specific, informed and unambiguous indication of consent by a statement or by a clear affirmative action. Additionally, participants and characters must be able to give consent (i.e. not be under the influence of alcohol, drugs, hypnosis, blackmail). “Consensual non-consent” works, in which participants or characters engage in simulated non-consensual encounters, are not permitted. Accompanying a work that features a non-consensual encounter with a statement claiming that the encounter was consensual is a violation of Patreon guidelines.


Yeah the cheating thing also doesn't make much sense there with Courtney either, it doesn't even go anywhere that we can see. There's no build up or anything, it just seems to come out of nowhere. My first thought was "Is this a trap?" like a Mom testing out her daughters boyfriend to see if he will stay faithful.
Clem isn't really attractive to me, so I'm not interested in her.
 
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Joshy92

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Yeah the drug storyline can push consent out of the window also as the person is under the influence so cannot consent. I think the dev needs to be careful with this as I believe it's also against Patreon's rules. To have content where someone is having sex with drunk or drugged, even if it is just art.

Consent

It is paramount that Adult/18+ creators demonstrate consent in all works (real or animated; photo, video, written, audio) between adult participants or characters; specifically, a freely given, specific, informed and unambiguous indication of consent by a statement or by a clear affirmative action. Additionally, participants and characters must be able to give consent (i.e. not be under the influence of alcohol, drugs, hypnosis, blackmail). “Consensual non-consent” works, in which participants or characters engage in simulated non-consensual encounters, are not permitted. Accompanying a work that features a non-consensual encounter with a statement claiming that the encounter was consensual is a violation of Patreon guidelines.


Yeah the cheating thing also doesn't make much sense there with Courtney either, it doesn't even go anywhere that we can see. There's no build up or anything, it just seems to come out of nowhere. My first thought was "Is this a trap?" like a Mom testing out her daughters boyfriend to see if he will stay faithful.
Clem isn't really attractive to me, so I'm not interested in her.
I think Clem's hot but she has a heart of ice. She gets off on destroying relationships is my guess.
 
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Yeah the drug storyline can push consent out of the window also as the person is under the influence so cannot consent. I think the dev needs to be careful with this as I believe it's also against Patreon's rules. To have content where someone is having sex with drunk or drugged, even if it is just art.

Consent

It is paramount that Adult/18+ creators demonstrate consent in all works (real or animated; photo, video, written, audio) between adult participants or characters; specifically, a freely given, specific, informed and unambiguous indication of consent by a statement or by a clear affirmative action. Additionally, participants and characters must be able to give consent (i.e. not be under the influence of alcohol, drugs, hypnosis, blackmail). “Consensual non-consent” works, in which participants or characters engage in simulated non-consensual encounters, are not permitted. Accompanying a work that features a non-consensual encounter with a statement claiming that the encounter was consensual is a violation of Patreon guidelines.


Yeah the cheating thing also doesn't make much sense there with Courtney either, it doesn't even go anywhere that we can see. There's no build up or anything, it just seems to come out of nowhere. My first thought was "Is this a trap?" like a Mom testing out her daughters boyfriend to see if he will stay faithful.
Clem isn't really attractive to me, so I'm not interested in her.
I agree completely with all of the above. The mom is hot though but lacks context. Additionally that HR woman doesn't do much for me either.
 

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I agree completely with all of the above. The mom is hot though but lacks context. Additionally that HR woman doesn't do much for me either.
I dislike the HR lady way more than anyone else especially after she tried to get Luke to fuck her. Clem I like and dislike equally at least
 

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Common dont be boring guys I think all things you mentioned this page is the
Exact reason why clem is best manipulator :devilish: :devilish:
 

gregers

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I liked the mom a lot, more so than the sister.
Kathryn's mom is nice but I agree that there's not much content or context for her so far; would like to see more of her rather than the Santini/Clem/office stuff. The sister hasn't made much of an impression yet and I'm suspending judgment for now.

Yeah the drug storyline can push consent out of the window also as the person is under the influence so cannot consent. I think the dev needs to be careful with this as I believe it's also against Patreon's rules. To have content where someone is having sex with drunk or drugged, even if it is just art.

Consent

It is paramount that Adult/18+ creators demonstrate consent in all works (real or animated; photo, video, written, audio) between adult participants or characters; specifically, a freely given, specific, informed and unambiguous indication of consent by a statement or by a clear affirmative action. Additionally, participants and characters must be able to give consent (i.e. not be under the influence of alcohol, drugs, hypnosis, blackmail). “Consensual non-consent” works, in which participants or characters engage in simulated non-consensual encounters, are not permitted. Accompanying a work that features a non-consensual encounter with a statement claiming that the encounter was consensual is a violation of Patreon guidelines.


Yeah the cheating thing also doesn't make much sense there with Courtney either, it doesn't even go anywhere that we can see. There's no build up or anything, it just seems to come out of nowhere. My first thought was "Is this a trap?" like a Mom testing out her daughters boyfriend to see if he will stay faithful.
Clem isn't really attractive to me, so I'm not interested in her.
Clem is clearly abusive especially in her earlier scenes (despite efforts to soften her a bit later on). Consent has already gone out the window with the drug storyline (e.g. the drugged-up sex slave under Clem's desk) and Santini's coercion. Best the dev can hope for there is flying under the radar.
 

mommysboiii

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Clem is clearly abusive especially in her earlier scenes (despite efforts to soften her a bit later on). Consent has already gone out the window with the drug storyline (e.g. the drugged-up sex slave under Clem's desk) and Santini's coercion. Best the dev can hope for there is flying under the radar.
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Justaphase

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Kathryn's mom is nice but I agree that there's not much content or context for her so far; would like to see more of her rather than the Santini/Clem/office stuff. The sister hasn't made much of an impression yet and I'm suspending judgment for now.



Clem is clearly abusive especially in her earlier scenes (despite efforts to soften her a bit later on). Consent has already gone out the window with the drug storyline (e.g. the drugged-up sex slave under Clem's desk) and Santini's coercion. Best the dev can hope for there is flying under the radar.
I was hoping that we would get more of Courtney (Kat's Mom) especially since she says how she will probably need Luke's help with moving. But since the out of the blue blowjob the only time that we've seen her is at the hospital with Kat and Rebecca.

Flying under Patreon's radar is a dangerous strategy IMO. All of the time and effort making the game, spending time building up support could all be gone in the blink of an eye. Not to mention the money that people have paid to see the game finished, all be for nothing. If I were him I would think about removing or reworking those scenes with the drugs. As apart from those, everything else should be fine.
 

gregers

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Flying under Patreon's radar is a dangerous strategy IMO. All of the time and effort making the game, spending time building up support could all be gone in the blink of an eye. Not to mention the money that people have paid to see the game finished, all be for nothing. If I were him I would think about removing or reworking those scenes with the drugs. As apart from those, everything else should be fine.
Even if it doesn't interest me much, I think the drug plot is so integral to the story that it would be difficult and counterproductive to remove (and I want the dev to be able to tell the story they want to tell) but it might be worth looking at fall-back options if Patreon comes cracking down: The game now has a working Subscribestar I believe, but those typically don't draw the same level of support.
 

Filipis

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Yeah for me when it comes to the cheating thing from Kat it really depends on how things develop. Right now yeah wouldn't suit the game either but if something happens later I can see it. Like a big / Major fight with Luke and that leads to him making Kat cry and feel like shit ( depending on choices) , and someone comforts her then I can see it then.
Well, Kat cheating on Luke is, I think, bound to happen only if you let Luke cheat on Kat - which means that eventually, Kat will find out and retaliate. Unsure of if this will lead to a "bad" ending for the couple, but I think it'll be an option.
 

Filipis

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I do love the game there are just a few little things I'm not really sold on yet. And is thirteen chapters going to be enough to give a satisfying conclusion to all these different story threads?

I don't know maybe I'm just being picky or something.
Agreed. Bobbyboy already expanded the story beyond his original idea, but it still doesn't seem like enough time.

What he needs to do, is stop introducing new characters and start connecting the plots of the existing ones - we already have plenty of men for Kathryn, and plenty of women for Luke. Adding more encounters, friends, or lovers is bloating the game. Rebecca has been neglected ever since she was introduced, like Kathryn's mom and Luke's dad.
 

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Well, Kat cheating on Luke is, I think, bound to happen only if you let Luke cheat on Kat - which means that eventually, Kat will find out and retaliate. Unsure of if this will lead to a "bad" ending for the couple, but I think it'll be an option.
This is quite common in cuck games. The MC only gets cheated on if he cheats first, to give the wife/girlfriend some justification. I don't like it though. I would much rather keep my MC "nice" and faithful because that makes the betrayal of her cheating much sweater.
 

Filipis

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This is quite common in cuck games. The MC only gets cheated on if he cheats first, to give the wife/girlfriend some justification. I don't like it though. I would much rather keep my MC "nice" and faithful because that makes the betrayal of her cheating much sweater.
I don't know about that route (Kat cheating regardless of if Luke cheats), I would be okay with it, but I don't know if Bobbyboy wants to have it.
 
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