VN Ren'Py Abandoned The Falling Reloaded [Ch. 6] [WhiteBear]

[Zerek244]

Found the game yesterday, enjoyed it. While apparently everything so far is just setting up the lore and the relationships, I was bummed that it ended "so quick".

If the dev can just keep on writing believable paths, there are quite a few for the game; Archangel doing his job, Angel seeking for revenge, demonic angel willing to burn pretty much whatever comes his way just to get revenge/justice and just full-on demon king, where anyone opposing him is an enemy and will be eliminated.


Ghost taking over MCs body is kinda weird, is it just suppressed desires or another entity? Could still go either way.

 

[Boopeeman]

Just got to the part where Inessa dies. It's suspect. Are there any scenes that confirm she's not just another a figment of MC's imagination?

 

[Simulacrum29]

Unless it is to fill the player and the MC with an unspeakable rage and lust for revenge, characters close to the MC should not die.

it did but then the MC and the player are forced into being a god boy for the fuckups responsible for the shit MC had to go through, and the best part is they give bullshit excuses and belittle everything MC went through. Like its a joke for them.

 

[JoeAngel]

Just got to the part where Inessa dies. It's suspect. Are there any scenes that confirm she's not just another a figment of MC's imagination?

The Demon Himself said to him that he killed her simple

 

[Hateitfuckit]

The Demon Himself said to him that he killed her simple

Unless that demon doesn't exist. As main character himself said that kreon never mentioned his son. Also the whole event felt weird to me. I don't remember but did nyks ever said anything about inesa?

it did but then the MC and the player are forced into being a god boy for the fuckups responsible for the shit MC had to go through, and the best part is they give bullshit excuses and belittle everything MC went through. Like its a joke for them.

I also don't like the fact that girl doesn't show much empathy for MC considering he was tortured in hell for centuries. Yeah, I get it that they are trying to give him space but so far I didn't saw any kind of sadness.

 

[Boopeeman]

Just finished my first playthrough on 0.3.

The plot and premise are very compelling. If they weren't, users wouldn't spend their time here intensely discussing it and even giving bad reviews due to the story not going their preferred way. And it's the story, not anything like sex scenes or NTR, which has them upset. My personal complaint is that MC's thousand year torture basically consisted of getting a nail pulled every now and then for a thousand years? Frankly that's very light considering how the author wants to portray a very angsty and tormented MC. I'd hope the author would either "redeem" Kreon or show that he was cooperating with MC's Dad. Especially given how he treated Inessa if she's even real. Anyway it's quite refreshing anyway for a plot here to upset you in some way, or at least not give you immediate payoff.

It's understandable why people here are upset at the family's underwhelming reactions at MC returning after centuries of torture, of which they knew he experienced it 30 times as long. I'd say how they're treating him sort of makes sense it's more their immediate reaction that upset some people. No tears or (failed) hugs? A good way to remedy the stilted fans is to have a flashback scene of them getting very emotional when they first heard the news OR show that archangels and other higher levels of being don't really show or feel that emotion in the first place which is already hinted at in the first place.

Very sexy models. Good tags. Sex scenes are going to be tough to incorporate. The overall reaction of all the characters feel extremely stunted, and they're could very well be an intriguing reason for this, but it's going to be hard to imagine them being lustful if it isn't resolved in some fashion.

 

[holaje12]

it did but then the MC and the player are forced into being a god boy for the fuckups responsible for the shit MC had to go through, and the best part is they give bullshit excuses and belittle everything MC went through. Like its a joke for them.

They are not going to fix that. If they had any intention of doing it they would have done so already. Choices dont mean shit here either. So you'll just simp for those pieces of shit you call "family".

 

[risky0]

Regardless, MC's power should have a limit, it should not copy the powers of God and Goddess.
I like strong characters but that would be too unbalanced.

The developer saved Emma and Raphael perfectly in my opinion, really well done.
I can't say the same for Azel and the other sister.
The story is really pretty, I don't understand why people get stuck on Ines, man, look at those LI's, they're all beautiful.
Especially Emma is just the jealous possessive LI I was looking for.

 

[Sarif119]

Someone please post I-patch

 

[HentaiKami]

Unless that demon doesn't exist. As main character himself said that kreon never mentioned his son. Also the whole event felt weird to me. I don't remember but did nyks ever said anything about inesa?

If you don't kill the demon straight, he will run for the queen of the northern area, who is his cousin, follow him and kill him there with the queen begging for her life by saying she wasn't part of this plot and everything that he did was his own actions, including the letter that drew MC out of the castle.

 

[nitkonikic]

it did but then the MC and the player are forced into being a god boy for the fuckups responsible for the shit MC had to go through, and the best part is they give bullshit excuses and belittle everything MC went through. Like its a joke for them.

Azel (is that the name?) constantly making fun of MC not knowing this, that and never having done this or that makes me desperately want to make her suffer same thing MC suffered. Or at least just kill her. There's no way in hell she'll ever be potential LI in any of my playthroughs.

YOU WERE THE ONE WHO DELIVERED MC TO HELL BITCH!

 

[vogelbeest]

YOU WERE THE ONE WHO DELIVERED MC TO HELL BITCH!

Hey... she's just the bitchy sister.... Can't expect an angel to get away with just the regular bitchy sister stuff, right? And besides that, it doesn't look like she herself had a ton of human interactions... Being an archangel of death is not exactly a job to learn "people skills".... Think in the lines of "the book of Job" how the divine act.... And what's likely the same for angels, in more than one way....

 

[nitkonikic]

Hey... she's just the bitchy sister.... Can't expect an angel to get away with just the regular bitchy sister stuff, right? And besides that, it doesn't look like she herself had a ton of human interactions... Being an archangel of death is not exactly a job to learn "people skills".... Think in the lines of "the book of Job" how the divine act.... And what's likely the same for angels, in more than one way....

Hardly an excuse.

But what annoyed me even more than her is MC during all those conversation (and other conversations with her). Being all goody-goody with her, like they're best friends or some shit and nothing bad ever happened in the past. The whole "she was just following orders" is such a lame excuse I wanted to slam my head against the desk instead of facepalming when MC said that.

It's straight out of "lame-excuses-for-hot-girls" book.

 

[HentaiKami]

Hardly an excuse.

But what annoyed me even more than her is MC during all those conversation (and other conversations with her). Being all goody-goody with her, like they're best friends or some shit and nothing bad ever happened in the past. The whole "she was just following orders" is such a lame excuse I wanted to slam my head against the desk instead of facepalming when MC said that.

It's straight out of "lame-excuses-for-hot-girls" book.

I mean, everyone of the angels and Goddess has some to answer for when you consider what MC went through. But so far it's pretty obvious that they originall thought that it was short duration punishment/sentence for MC, reason for it we don't know, but God "suddendly" decided that it wasn't going to be just 6h trip to hell. Instead they closed all the portals to hell and even prevented prayers from being heard from there. Also if as MC understood already, if Azel didn't take him to hell, someone else would have and they might not have been as "kind" about it. So far it seems to me that MC is focusing mostly in using the angels to gather power so he can go after God in revenge, considering if he makes too much trouble with other angels, Emma might not be able to protect him or might even come to conclusion that MC is lost.

 

[Simulacrum29]

if Azel didn't take him to hell, someone else would have and they might not have been as "kind" about it.

yeah, being betrayed by a close relative is far more comforting then betrayal by a stranger, like you can really feel her love for her brother in that act

 

[Raziel_8]

Hey... she's just the bitchy sister.... Can't expect an angel to get away with just the regular bitchy sister stuff, right? And besides that, it doesn't look like she herself had a ton of human interactions... Being an archangel of death is not exactly a job to learn "people skills".... Think in the lines of "the book of Job" how the divine act.... And what's likely the same for angels, in more than one way....

She is all happy go lucky, they live on earth for quite some time, she was in college multiple times and seems to get along just fine there.

I mean, everyone of the angels and Goddess has some to answer for when you consider what MC went through. But so far it's pretty obvious that they originall thought that it was short duration punishment/sentence for MC, reason for it we don't know, but God "suddendly" decided that it wasn't going to be just 6h trip to hell. Instead they closed all the portals to hell and even prevented prayers from being heard from there. Also if as MC understood already, if Azel didn't take him to hell, someone else would have and they might not have been as "kind" about it. So far it seems to me that MC is focusing mostly in using the angels to gather power so he can go after God in revenge, considering if he makes too much trouble with other angels, Emma might not be able to protect him or might even come to conclusion that MC is lost.

How was she kind as she droped him into hell, and how could have an other angel make that worse ?
Again, just because i was ordered, doesn't change shit, neither does it absolve her from her deed.
But the most sour point is not even that she threw the MC in hell, it's how she reacts after he is back.
No guilt, no responsibility at all, a complete lack of any empathy...and she likes to forget that he even was in hell in the dumb comments she always gives.

 

[Simulacrum29]

She is all happy go lucky, they live on earth for quite some time, she was in college multiple times and seems to get along just fine there.


How was she kind as she droped him into hell, and how could have an other angel make that worse ?
Again, just because i was ordered, doesn't change shit.
But the most sour point is not even that she threw the MC in hell, it's how she reacts after he is back.
No guilt, no responsibility at all, a complete lack of any empathy...and she likes to forget that he even was in hell in the dumb comments she always gives.

didnt you get it she only followed orders. I mean that was a shitty excuse back then in the nuremberg trials, but she gets a pass.
probably because of the tits.

 

[vogelbeest]

Hardly an excuse.

Well, i can agree with you it's not an excuse, but that's by human morals. And that's the thing, they're not human and there's situations in the story that get more explanation later. God is not a guy that just fires you, if you don't do the job. The only reason MC is where he is now is because he had help from his family, maybe too late, but it's not like he could have won against the elders by himself. And MC's behavior is influenced by the powers of his mother, that's also explained.

Overall it's a pretty good story, not the usual dime-a-dozen stuff... Yeah, it's not following standard rules, but "every girl magically falls on your dick" games don't get this much comments for being unrealistic... And this game mostly follows the story in an acceptable way for its setting... The peeking on your sisters parts are the scenes that follow "pornlogic", but since the game explains the strange behavior of MC and his relatives within the setting, i think it's acceptable behavior in this setting.

Not saying there is no need for a redemption arc, there's still a lot to talk about and explain before MC can accept his family's part.. But at the same time a lot is still happening with MC, it's also a matter of how they support him from now on... MC really is not in a good place mentally... Doubt he will get through all this without support or becoming evil...

 

[Simulacrum29]

MC really is not in a good place mentally... Doubt he will get through all this without support or becoming evil...

well MC should choose evil and be done with it

 

[vogelbeest]

well MC should choose evil and be done with it

You mean get himself killed? Because unlike cutting his wrists, fighting god or the elders now, that's the only possible result.
Or go back and rule hell? That's exactly what he didn't want to begin with...