VN Ren'Py Abandoned The Falling Reloaded [Ch. 6] [WhiteBear]

[Real Kreten]

I see a lot of people, who would go attack some child, if they got harmed by some bad dude. At the end, smacking kids is much easier than challenge tough guy who was able to harm you.

MC has no doubt about who is the cause of his suffering and he is making plane to hit him. Why waste time on petty revenge to pawns, when culprit would escaped in such cause. He is planning to use them, instead sulking in the corner, how little they cry for his past.

And yeah, somewhere on the path for revenge, it will be decision between Luna`s forgiveness and Arka`s use them. But we are far from there.

 

[SaltySugar]

This update actually did somewhat of a good job redeeming Emma and Raphael. I still think it was a bit lazy but that would just be nitpicking so I will take what I can get.

Azel on the other hand is still an obnoxious unlikable bitch and to be honest, I don't think there's a way to redeem her at this point which sucks cause the MC is still acting like no biggie around her which is just annoying and I really doubnt that you will be able to get rid off her.

 

[verzauberung]

What the actual fuck? Jill was the only reason for suffering through playing this convoluted mess of a game. Did he ruin mommy Jill too? This legit pissed me off.

Dude srsly why the fuck did he change jill. She and blonde mama jill were the only reason to play this game <.<

 

[Alfred the Fallen]

My opinion of Emma was pretty much set after her introduction. I don't like her. I don't trust her. I don't want anything to do with her.

Our first glimpse of Emma in the game was of her angrily pounding her fist on the table as she berated Raphael for letting us "escape" and demanding that she find us. She says "We can finally be together again. Centuries later, I'll finally be able to see you again. I'm really curious to see what he looks like." Notice how there's no concern for our safety, just curiosity over what we look like. More importantly, she doesn't lift a finger to do anything herself. She just orders every else to go looking while she sits around in her robe drinking wine. She does show some concern for our health in her next scene, which is when she finds us dumped on her doorstep half-dead. So that's something, I guess. But then she starts creepily throwing herself at us, over and over again. Her desperate attempts to gain our affections are just pathetic.

Give me a hug. Look at this outfit and tell me I'm pretty. Get in the change-room with me so I can strip naked in front of you. Let me rub my legs all over you on the couch. I'll let you peek on me in the shower anytime you want. Just love me. WHY WON'T YOU LOVE ME!!

How about you back the fuck off a bit, and quit pushing this weird family fantasy thing you've got going. Maybe think of what's best for someone other than yourself for once. The main character collapses from an anxiety attack that leaves him unconscious and delirious for several days. We are told that this is very unusual since he should be immune to sickness and other ailments, let alone fainting. And what is Emma's grand plan? Enrol him in college courses where he must blend in perfectly to avoid any suspicion from normal humans that are unaware of the existence of the supernatural students there. Great plan. Clearly that couldn't possibly blow up in a horrible way almost immediately.

 

[nitkonikic]

I see a lot of people, who would go attack some child, if they got harmed by some bad dude. At the end, smacking kids is much easier than challenge tough guy who was able to harm you.

MC has no doubt about who is the cause of his suffering and he is making plane to hit him. Why waste time on petty revenge to pawns, when culprit would escaped in such cause. He is planning to use them, instead sulking in the corner, how little they cry for his past.

And yeah, somewhere on the path for revenge, it will be decision between Luna`s forgiveness and Arka`s use them. But we are far from there.

And what exactly is MCs plan currently? How exactly he plans to become stronger?

By being good pet to his mother and sister and Azel and good student at human school? Could he train in hell, obtain army, copy powers, then challenge heavens? Sure, but that would make too much sense and involve too little sex scenes.

It's not about lashing out on kids or "family", it's about leaving them behind and treating them the way they deserve to be treated. And that's to stay the fuck away from them. I see 0 benefits to him enrolling to college and learning human manners.

Some speculate he wants to potentially use them, but that's not what his inner thoughts are leading to. His inner thoughts are forgiving his family and seeing it as "I overreacted" "I shouldn't have treated her like that" "She was just following orders". Those, after hundreds of years of torture, make NO FUCKING SENSE. MC is feeling bigger guilt over treating them badly than they are feeling ANY compassion for what he went through.

His attitude took complete 180 after leaving hell. I know it's for gameplay purposes (and creating romances), but it's jarring how badly it was done. Slice of life DOES NOT suit this game. At all. The jokes Azel was saying and mocking MC would be fine in college based VN, but in a game that starts with hundreds of years of torture + death of only person that's shown any compassion and understanding of MC, it's ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous.

Even if they acted that way, his reactions to that should have been angry, moody, yes, even edgy.

It's gonna take a miracle for dev to dig the story out of that hole he dug himself into with chapter 2. Or he can double down on it, turn the game into more of a kinetic novel where players make very minor decisions (who to sleep with for example) while everything else just plays out without player input (see that mafia family game for one such example).

 

[HentaiKami]

And what exactly is MCs plan currently? How exactly he plans to become stronger?

By being good pet to his mother and sister and Azel and good student at human school? Could he train in hell, obtain army, copy powers, then challenge heavens? Sure, but that would make too much sense and involve too little sex scenes.

It's not about lashing out on kids or "family", it's about leaving them behind and treating them the way they deserve to be treated. And that's to stay the fuck away from them. I see 0 benefits to him enrolling to college and learning human manners.

I mean, from the mind of MC in game, he wants to learn his mother's power, because she is the second strongest existence in the universe she knows. Currently everyone is telling him that if she uses her powers to tell someone to do something, they will have to obey, that's the power he is trying to copy from her and he can only do it if he is there when she uses it. The armies in hell wouldn't do much if we consider the carnage MC caused himself in there, nor are the powers he could get there strong enough for him to challenge God. Now i'm not saying MC couldn't do those as a side project to gain some power, but what he really needs is to learn Emma's power and track down that angel that rebelled against god earlier, both which he needs to do on Earth. So he plays the long game and sticks with Emma, Raphael and Azel for now, in order to stay close to them and getting their powers. Also every time he goes back to hell, risks God figuring out a way to keep him there permanently, which is what God wants. God wants MC to become king of hell and stay there. So why should he do what God, his ultimate target, wants?

 

[Simulacrum29]

So he plays the long game and sticks with Emma, Raphael and Azel for now, in order to stay close to them and getting their powers.

great that you know the inner workings of the MC better then the MC him self, because his thoughts show something completlly different

 

[HentaiKami]

great that you know the inner workings of the MC better then the MC him self, because his thoughts show something completlly different

I mean, the MC in his inner monologues at one point did thought that he needs Emma's power and that the power of healing from Raphael would be extremely useful....

 

[MrBenny]

Hello, I just finished playing the reloaded chapter - 3 update, it was done far better than Chapter - 2 in my opinion. I like this kind of content better. My take from this is,

1. Bring original "Nyks" back in Chapter - 1, She's a much better option newly born, young and curious,

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• The new "Nyks" wanna be MILF face is too old and it doesn't suit as a new born entity.
• Please restore the sexy curious original Nyks.

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2. Add a sex scene with Inessa (hell girl) after MC promises to take her back to heaven with him.

• It'll suit the mood right also it shall better explains why MC goes crazy about her death every time or about his nightmares.

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3. Give some context about, Why only Emma is sexually attracted to her son MC, but Ralph , Azel and Others are still seeing him as brother.

4. Let MC gain new abilities from Emma and other immortals even without ghost taking control of his body.

5. Find a way to bring back Inessa from the underworld with the help of Azazel or her book, but this time give her some demonic powers that MC could copy.

6. In the last fight scene happening in dreamscape and real world, add scenes in both side of the battle, for better clarity. It will be good to go back and forth a few times before randomly showing Azel stabbed by MC and then crashing down in front of Emma.

All said, update was charming and renders look good (except old hag wannabe MILF new nyks model). I'm expecting good storytelling from now on, best of luck for the future. Keep up the good work and Thank you for the update.

Hmm...I actually thought there was a sex scene with Inessa... But due to the amount of time passed between the last update, and playing many other titles...I forgot most of the story, and so I decided to try another playthrough. I even thought I messed up somewhere...and replayed from the start again, looking to see a sex scene with Inessa. And your right...it would make for a much better bond, if MC had been intimate with Inessa. And I agree, I hope MC can bring her back and add her to his love interest group (if there will be one available), as she was a real cute character.

And your right about the Nyks model change...for me as well she looks terrible. With her being just created, and giving her a weathered aged look of a 40 year old MILF, is off putting (considering what she looked like before the face change). And I also thought she was more physical with MC in the story as well...yet, I was wrong again.

 

[Saphfire]

Great game, love everything so far, ok almost (Inessa). I´ve just subscribed, keep up the good work.

 

[Aquilas]

So as far as I get it, no sex scenes there, right? Just the plot?

 

[HentaiKami]

Who's to say Emma is not using her powers on MC also?

Oh she is, at least the pheromone part of her power, which MC realises at one point and thinks to himself if he might have also unconsciously used it, to make Emma even more affectionate than mother should be.

 

[Boopeeman]

Oh she is, at least the pheromone part of her power, which MC realises at one point and thinks to himself if he might have also unconsciously used it, to make Emma even more affectionate than mother should be.

Yeah I remembered as much a minute later and deleted it. Anyway for the controversy around his family not giving *enough* a fuck to have him back, it does make sense to have them be cautious and help him work through his issues. Although it's ridiculous an archangel is going to therapy. A nice way to remedy it would be a hyper emotional flashback to when they heard the news that he's alive and the conditions he was in, as they already seemed to know when they met him. OR that they're a different class of beings and just have lower levels of emotions. Which makes sense, lot of hints of that already and it would example how jarring the story can be.

 

[Raziel_8]

great that you know the inner workings of the MC better then the MC him self, because his thoughts show something completlly different

Oh it is there, you just need to look carefully.
It's somewhere in beetwen when he isn't whining about the death of Inessa, or tries to kill himself because he couldn't keep Inessa safe and his life has now no meaning anymore, or when he goes berserk cause his ptsd of Inessa's death...it was horrible you know, centuries of daily torture, massacring hell and eating Kreon's head were nothing in comparison of the horror of Inessa's death, which he knew for a couple of days...

 

[Alfred the Fallen]

Oh it is there, you just need to look carefully.
It's somewhere in beetwen when he isn't whining about the death of Inessa, or tries to kill himself because he couldn't keep Inessa safe and his life has now no meaning anymore, or when he goes berserk cause his ptsd of Inessa's death...it was horrible you know, centuries of daily torture, massacring hell and eating Kreon's head were nothing in comparison of the horror of Inessa's death, which he knew for a couple of days...

I suspect that a lot of the drama around Inessa's death isn't really about Inessa herself. The main character has a deep hatred for his family that abandoned him in Hell, and now he feels like he failed to protect Inessa as his family failed to protect him, so some part of him likely feels that he is just as bad as them. He's also dealing with a feeling of hopelessness that comes from having everything he's ever wanted ripped away from him twice now. Once as a child, and then again right after escaping captivity when everything seemed to finally be going his way. So now he's likely afraid to get attached to anyone because they could also get killed at a moments notice. Maybe he even feels cursed in a way, and secretly fears that getting close to anyone will just place them in danger too.

So there's lots of other things that are compounding the loss of a woman he's only known a couple of days, and the guy was already looney before any of this happened. He's got three imaginary friends in his head from his lifetime of torture, and we know that he'd completely given up on everything before his sudden transformation that led to his escape. It's not unreasonable for him to be taking her death harder than a person normally would.

 

[Raziel_8]

I suspect that a lot of the drama around Inessa's death isn't really about Inessa herself. The main character has a deep hatred for his family that abandoned him in Hell, and now he feels like he failed to protect Inessa as his family failed to protect him, so some part of him likely feels that he is just as bad as them. He's also dealing with a feeling of hopelessness that comes from having everything he's ever wanted ripped away from him twice now. Once as a child, and then again right after escaping captivity when everything seemed to finally be going his way. So now he's likely afraid to get attached to anyone because they could also get killed at a moments notice. Maybe he even feels cursed in a way, and secretly fears that getting close to anyone will just place them in danger too.

So there's lots of other things that are compounding the loss of a woman he's only known a couple of days, and the guy was already looney before any of this happened. He's got three imaginary friends in his head from his lifetime of torture, and we know that he'd completely given up on everything before his sudden transformation that led to his escape. It's not unreasonable for him to be taking her death harder than a person normally would.

I mean,what you say sounds good, it would make sense. But if that is the case, the game does a really poor job to convey anything of that.
If he has any hatred for his family he sure doesn't show, act or even thinks about that. Not even if he is away from Emma, like when he is in college with Azel, which he should hate quite a bit.

As for attachment to others. The MC so far has simply shown no interest at all. Is he afraid of getting hurt again, or to bring them in danger, or nothing of that...who knows, the game does nothing to elaborate on that.

So far the when game shows anything about his mental state it is only about Inessa, even his imaginary friends, which are in his head, say the only thing he thinks about non stop is Inessa/her death...
That he takes her death harder after all he has experienced i agree, it's just way over the top imo.

That you had choices regarding her makes this kinda even more standing out.
I didn't trust Inessa one bit, way too nice and innocent for living all her live in hell. As such i ignored her at every choice, never promised her to take her to heaven etc.

 

[EF.Sora]

Okay, I'm not one to post anything on here, But personally I think the opening should be changed. There's no smooth way to go from 'I've been tortured for hundreds of years' to 'I'm gonna bone everyone in college and this city' (Which it seems like where it's going to me, I could be wrong, but meh).

I could write a long ass essay because I have enough to say on it, but I shouldn't. I will say that I stopped reading when Emma said "... you can watch me anytime I'm in the shower." or something like that. It made me realize that this won't be for me. I've been following this since release, it started losing me when MC was forced to live with Emma. Lost me a bit more with the college stuff and now fully lost me with Emma's line. Also, Not a fan of the new Nyks model. but that doesn't have anything to do with the story.


I wish the Dev Goodluck though. Just because this isn't for me, doesn't mean others won't like it. Renders are well lit and posed.

... I don't know why I spoilered things.

 

[projectwhite]

love the game so far, congrats, keep it up dev

 

[Deleted member 5879042]

Hmm...I actually thought there was a sex scene with Inessa (But due to amount of time passed between the last update, and playing many other titles...I forgot most of the story. And so I decided to try another playthrough. I even thought I messed up somewhere...and replayed the start again, looking to see a sex scene with Inessa). And your right it would make for a much better bond, if MC had been intimate with Inessa. And I agree, I hope MC can bring her back and add her to his love interest group (if there will be one available), as she was a real cute character.

And your right about the Nyks model change...for me as well she looks terrible. With her being just created, and giving her a weathered aged look of a 40 year old MILF, is off putting (considering what she looked like before the face change). And I also thought she was more physical with MC in the story as well...yet, I was wrong again.

If they add a sex scene, they need to chance the dialog with all the woman, who find out he is still a virgin. Which doesn't make sense anyway....

 

[Deleted member 5879042]

Just a hint.

Azel/Aniel are both woman, but in various places it's written 'he' and later 'she'