VN Ren'Py Abandoned The Falling Reloaded [Ch. 6] [WhiteBear]

[I_Lucifer_I]

First, is there a change in scenes and dialogs, which are important, if you go all out devil or angel?

And now to my opinion.

The first part (the prologue) of the game was the best part so far, and that part kept me going.

After he came to earth, it became a scrambled mess. Why is he just accepting to go to school? How the fuck can he be controlled by Ghost? He created the three of them so he doesn’t go insane, so they are only his imagination. If they were his split personas, he wouldn’t be able to talk to them.

And why do the other two talk to Ghost like he is the only one who can do something? like when Luna asked Ghost to heal the MC.

But then Emma says that Ghost is powerful and that it could be someone else in his mind, and in the first chapter, Ghost touches MC’s head, where he gives him some powers to break free???

This needs to be explained asap.

And then there is the last scene in this update. Like WTF!! Firstly, you cannot let that be the last scene. Secondly (my assumption), if she is dead, now Ghost doesn’t even need to take over the body to interact with the world; is the MC just going insane, or is the MC just the passenger in his body and has no real will?
There are a lot of thing that are confusing in the moment I hope it will be explained in the future updates.

Overall, the update was okay, a little bit too short, and it is starting to get somewhat confusing. He should add some timestamps because they said that the time in hell works differently than on Earth. It is said that 2-3 days on earth could be a month in hell, so if my math is correct and we assume that one month in hell is 3 days on earth and the MC was 100 years in hell (1 month = 3 days, 1 year = 36 days, 100 years = 3600 days, 10 years on earth), that means that the others spend about 10 years on earth looking for the MC.

 

[I_Lucifer_I]

Ah yes, now it all makes sense! The top bitch in heaven, second only to god, couldn't have possibly known what happens when you mutilate your own angel child and send it to hell. How could she possibly have known, I mean it's not like eternal torture is Hell's sole purpose of existence. It's like a single mother bringing a convicted sex offender into her home and then being shocked when he starts messing with her kid... Or a wife going girl's night out to a sex club, getting gangbanged and then saying to hubby "how could I have known I was going to get fucked in that club meant for...fucking?".

I don't know what's more amusing, the writer thinking that sorry excuse is a good way to patch up his self-mutilated storyline, or the players who actually think it worked...

I think it is implied or just an assumption that"God" send him down to rule Hell, but i know what you mean. This story is a confusing mess at this state.

 

[w123t4]

Just wish there will be more scene with two sis rather than the mom, too many scenes belong to her from last few chapters.

 

[Griffihn]

angels arent real bro

Tell that to the over 2 billion Christians worldwide... who are you to say they don't exist???

and muslims

and jews. the core beliefs of the 3 most widespread and wealthy religions on the planet actually share the same core belief system. no, seriously, look it up. also, they encompass about 60% of the world's population so over 4 billion, not 2.
as for angels being created not born, both bibles (christian and jewish) and the Qur'an state on several occasions that they are "created by God to serve his will". and i do believe the Ramayhana has similar beings (either the Suras or the Devas, forgot which), which are also mentioned in Buddhist teachings. so, basically, you're more likely to find a person believing angels or angel-like beings exist rather than not.

This site really isn’t a place for devout christians mate

fanatic, not devout. a devout believer follows his or her religious doctrine while still seeking his or her own enjoyment. a fanatic is the one that follows the religious dogma to the letter. you'd be surprised how many devout believers actually enjoy Adult VNs.

enough of a rant, i presume. that was just some random info i've acquired over the decades by talking to far too many priests from different religions.

 

[Content_Consumer]

the MC was 100 years in hell (1 month = 3 days, 1 year = 36 days, 100 years = 3600 days, 10 years on earth), that means that the others spend about 10 years on earth looking for the MC.

I think, though I could be mistaken, the MC said he was in Hell for about 400 years.

So we could estimate it to be about 30-40 Earth years.

 

[AL.d]

I think it is implied or just an assumption that"God" send him down to rule Hell, but i know what you mean. This story is a confusing mess at this state.

It is implied but still makes zero sense. The kid was powerless at the time. And they obviously knew that, even now she was surprised to see what he could do, saying he wasn't supposed to be able to do all that shit. They even chopped his wings off. He was pleading and screaming to his sister not ot leave him and she did so without a second thought.

The story is practically going like this :

Daddy : "Hey I just chopped our son's legs and intend to dump him at a place full of murderers, sadists and rapists who also happen to be (im) mortal enemies of our kin. You daughter, will be the one to throw him in there. He will be kicking (or not heh) and screaming but pay no attention to it."

Daughter " Ok, Daddy, no problem."

Mommy : " But Honey, is he going to be all right there?".

Daddy : " Of course, I'm sending this little legless boy in there to rule them."

Mommy " Ah, OK. Makes perfect sense."

 

[salty_croissant]

I like it. But updates are too short.

 

[btrain33]

There any actual sex scenes in this update, or still just beautiful girls running around in leather babysitting and teasing MC? You'd think by chapter 4 there would be at least 1 sex scene no? Not even a single handy so far.

 

[Faxe10%]

There any actual sex scenes in this update, or still just beautiful girls running around in leather babysitting and teasing MC? You'd think by chapter 4 there would be at least 1 sex scene no? Not even a single handy so far.

Dude... this game practically aborted the exact moment Inessa died... by now the plot and everything that revolves around our MC is just... inertia, memories of the past that will never come back... *another game with wasted potential*...fuck...another milker Dev...lol.

 

[xXwankerXx]

Ah yes, now it all makes sense! The top bitch in heaven, second only to god, couldn't have possibly known what happens when you mutilate your own angel child and send it to hell. How could she possibly have known, I mean it's not like eternal torture is Hell's sole purpose of existence.

Yeah, that was funny as fuck. Supposedly, she didn't know her precious son was tortured day and night by a deranged psychopath who hates angels coz ppl go to hell all the time to chill, have some fun, fuck a few hoes, get a tan and come back to heaven or Earth stronger than ever, right ?? Imagine someone lying about this to your face after you put all your hopes in all that being true. The nerve on them.

I know the dev's new to this, but ffs, some 'arguments' used here are plain stupid and hilarious. There was also the lil thing about Emma, who's supposedly the strongest goddess ever, being afraid of the MC hurting her while he barely could keep up with Azel. The inconsistencies, WTF moments and ridiculous arguments are the cherry on top of this shitty cake called story in this game, and boy, does the dev do a good job reminding us of this.

I'm no good storyteller by any means, but IMHO, the Supreme Asshole (not calling him God... ever) being forced to send the MC to hell coz the devils were afraid of his potential as a price to pay for stopping an apocalyptic war with them that was threatening to destroy both Heaven and Earth and saving his family would've been a waay better idea than this bullshit.

I hear a lot of shit being stated and implied about that stupid balance, but most angels and devils act like they were friends their whole life, and suddenly the MC's potential, which nobody, not even he himself, knew anything about, is the main reason why the Head Asshole sent him to be tortured in hell, to his sweet mom's shock, who thought he was all fine and dandy, chilling, relaxing and fucking hot devil bitches daily. I won't say it can't get any stupider than this, bcz it can, and I bet it will. Let's see how shit hits the fan after that cliffhanger in the next update coz I personally am curious to see if the dev can salvage this story or he'll end up abandoning the game.

 

[btrain33]

Dude... this game practically aborted the exact moment Inessa died... by now the plot and everything that revolves around our MC is just... inertia, memories of the past that will never come back... *another game with wasted potential*...fuck...another milker Dev...lol.

I hear ya man. You'd think with MC's powers he could just go back in time to right before Inessa died and do something different to change the outcome. I dunno, that's how I might write the story, but who knows what this dev is thinking.

 

[vogelbeest]

I hear ya man. You'd think with MC's powers he could just go back in time to right before Inessa died and do something different to change the outcome.

That's Dr. Who.... There's no hint of time traveling so far.

 

[Bailz]

so we can keep declining Emma and can get angry at her (kind of) but then 5 secs later the MC does a complete 180 and all chummy with her again acting like a little puppy, the inconsistency of the MC is really killing this for me along with the nonsensical story, also i feel the devil/angel points are going to mess up the story for me as i only wanna avoid Emma not the rest of the family but have a feeling it will affect all of them

 

[Faxe10%]

I hear ya man. You'd think with MC's powers he could just go back in time to right before Inessa died and do something different to change the outcome. I dunno, that's how I might write the story, but who knows what this dev is thinking.

Bruh...I know exactly what this Dev is thinking...his only thought is to milk people as much "+" as possible...Ray Charles could 'see' this too...(with all due respect to this great but unfortunate artist)...sincerely...son of god allows the prettiest loving girl with MC to die...shit...

 

[nitkonikic]

so we can keep declining Emma and can get angry at her (kind of) but then 5 secs later the MC does a complete 180 and all chummy with her again acting like a little puppy, the inconsistency of the MC is really killing this for me along with the nonsensical story, also i feel the devil/angel points are going to mess up the story for me as i only wanna avoid Emma not the rest of the family but have a feeling it will affect all of them

That's the problem of dev both wanting to satisfy players (us) and progress story in a direction he wants.

I can keep being angry at Emma on every choice, but like you said, 2 lines later MC acts like he likes her. Or worse yet, Azel. Holy hell, given a choice I'd kill Azel on the spot, but MC? He can't keep himself from thinking he's too harsh on her. Dev is trying to have his cake, eat it, and give it to homeless (us). Perhaps aiming too high and should keep things simpler.

I'm not going to be overly negative since I genuinely think this update was MASSIVE improvement, but things such as the one you pointed out come with experience. Sometimes compromises have to be made. Popular semi-kinetic games exist on this site (look no further than Summer's gone or De Luca Family, both of which have choices that affect exactly nothing but flavor), but think it's too late to go in that direction for this one.

It started as revenge story, turned into slice-of-life incest harem, and now neither crowd is happy. I heard this game was initially different and this is a remake, but if I had to be honest...I'm looking forwards to this devs next game (in 15 years, at the pace things are going). He'll get enough experience from this one to make a good, focused game.

I'm just worried this might get dropped if the dev starts being overburdened between trying to make players happy, and trying to tell a story. Not worried about it ending up a mess, it already is one.

 

[XV71]

Bruh...I know exactly what this Dev is thinking...his only thought is to milk people as much "+" as possible...Ray Charles could 'see' this too...(with all due respect to this great but unfortunate artist)...sincerely...son of god allows the prettiest loving girl with MC to die...shit...

I don't think this dev is milking, I genuinely believe he's just a shitty inconsistent dev trying to tell a story, but failing spectacularly.

 

[Faxe10%]

I don't think this dev is milking, I genuinely believe he's just a shitty inconsistent dev trying to tell a story, but failing spectacularly.

I have a lot of respect for you! but ... but ... three times but ... lol ... but I think Dev knows exactly what he is doing ... but I love your determination to protect the indefinable.

 

[Lokidarczyk]

I dont know if somebody said it before or not but i think i know why god exile mc to hell and took his wings so that he cant touch god and steal his power

 

[TheSmoothCriminal]

Why doesn't the dev just go full kinetic novel if these choices don't mean a damn thing? I mean if we choose to tell Emma to fuck off we don't want to be forced to be nice two seconds later. If you don't have the skill to write or code different paths to your game just don't even bother wasting time with false dialogue choices.

 

[XV71]

Why doesn't the dev just go full kinetic novel if these choices don't mean a damn thing? I mean if we choose to tell Emma to fuck off we don't want to be forced to be nice two seconds later. If you don't have the skill to write or code different paths to your game just don't even bother wasting time with false dialogue choices.

agreed it needs the kinetic novel tag, choices are meaningless.