VN Ren'Py Abandoned The Falling Reloaded [Ch. 6] [WhiteBear]

[Faxe10%]

I dont know if somebody said it before or not but i think i know why god exile mc to hell and took his wings so that he cant touch god and steal his power

yeah, i think you hit the spot...this is a common problem in patriarchal times. I like you...your mind is higher than the average people in this forum...

 

[EF.Sora]

Some of these chapter 4 things should've happened in v2/chapter 2.

I don't know why I'm still reading, Maybe I have this feeling that my feelings on the certain things will change... But I reread the story each update and chapter 2 throws me off quite a bit.

If I squint my eyes and tilt my head, I can see myself liking this quite a bit. By that I mean, if I cut chapter 1/Prologue out and treat chapter 2 as the start, Have the Inessa thing be the only thing that made MC depressed, No torture. At that point I'd treat it as hard depression and not hardcore PTSD like now. With that my view on the story changes a bit. It makes me lean towards angel shit more and I'm a little more relaxed with how the others are acting.

I'll give credit, Dev is trying, even though some issues are being addressed a little late. I'll most likely still keep my eye on this. Now all that's left is to give a chapter to each of the characters, like next could be Raphael, then Azrael (Yeah, I'll drop my issues with her for the sake of character development). or both of them in one chapter. Emma has no excuse after this chapter, she knows almost everything now.

 

[Nezron]

This site really isn’t a place for devout christians mate

I am not, but I respect other peoples beliefs.

 

[Otaku_Senpai_]

Nice, I love this!

 

[DavyDaoist]

Mac version?

 

[mandudeman]

Honest thoughts, People Need to just Shut up/Chill out and enjoy the Free game they are getting to experience here Free because if they don't like it then why don't they make a game ?

I see people all the time throwing shade here there or anywhere whining on this or that or anything Like these are the people who Get mad their seat is warm because some was sitting in it prior to them sitting there or they are mad because Devs don't listen to the crowd tell them how they need to make their game or scenes or events.

Truth is Devs are creating something which in one way or another has some personal meaning to them and so when people just rage saying "The dev is just doing this or that or blah blah blah" I admit some Devs just Like to milk the Rework train over and such but when a Dev gives progress with each update even when a Rework happens then I'm all for it baby.

Also people saying the updates are to small.... Do you have a Super Computer capable of rendering within seconds/minutes/hours? Well a Big Chunk of these Smaller Devs here are limited to what hardware they have and so Rendering takes time and so I understand why smaller updates especially if that Computer is a personal PC so they are having to do Everything day to day from it so that will also slow progress.

I am not trying to shill or anything like that I am merely saying that people need to back off a little bit and show a bit more Positive Reinforcement with Good Constructive Criticism instead of just saying Fu@% this or $#it that because it isn't fully reflecting what any specific individuals want.

In the end of the day The People will always have their rights for what they want but what it comes down to is that The Dev is the one Telling the Story and so whatever we say about changes will come down to how the Dev liked or Disliked what we had to say to them and how we discussed it.


Keep it up "WhiteBear" and Don't let us change the Vision you have.

 

[rj677]

Did you even play the latest update?

Most of these questions are answered or mannerisms are justified to some extent.

The intro did not have top 5 reading hard on status though. Without any sugar coating the writing stopped that ship from sailing real quick if you aren't lobotomized, it just read as a basic VN, the CONCEPT had (still) potential.

I suggest you read/play a VN like:
Desert Stalker
And compare it to something like:
Hot Sand of Antarctica

You'll notice they have a downright near duplicate concept, but one is executed, written, and plot laid out FAR better, and makes you question why you'd even play or CONSIDER 95% of the games on this site as "top 5" material. Don't set yourself up for disappointment by being impressed with this game's intro, you should have already known going into it that it was going to have it's rough edges. That being said, before this latest update it DID have a LOT of issues with it's plot holes, character mannerisms etc. But the update fixed a lot of those issues, with only more room to improve it. However the writing will probably always be an issue without a redo and thorough reevaluation on what is considered "good" vs "okay" vs "bad" writing.

I wasnt expecting no one to actually reply to my rant of this game, but since you did Im gonna give you my thoughts on what you said:

1st "The intro did not have top 5 reading hard on status though. Without any sugar coating the writing stopped that ship from sailing real quick if you aren't lobotomized":
You just mixed up 2 different points that werent meant to be mixed up ... I said the game had potential for top 5 status because of the concept and how it had everything i thought would be a perfect start to an original idea, while the part of the "biggest reading hard-on" was clearly an hyperbole meant to spice up the post, or i thought it would be clear at least ... but good to know you were a bit oblivious to that.

Also, loved the quip about the lobotomy that for your information was at his highest popularity in the 1920s so me being 24 years old would probably mean that i wouldnt be lobotomized (see, i copied your obliviousness ).

2nd "Don't set yourself up for disappointment": Im usually a guy who enjoys almost every game the first time I play... maybe because I actually want devs to actually succeed. But in this case, how would I know that such a beginning would have a continuation worse than Season 8 of Game of Thrones?

3rd " Most of these questions are answered or mannerisms are justified to some extent (...)the update fixed a lot of those issues, with only more room to improve it".
The dev addressing those problems only on chapter 4 its almost like a husband admitting to his wife that he cheated on her 1 year ago : It doesnt change anything that was done before, the wife/supporters will still "hate/resent" you not only for what happened but also for how late it was mentioned and the only thing the husband/dev gets from it is a small sense of peace for finally saying something about it

 

[sakuyas_mmaster]

The story is practically going like this :

Daddy : "Hey I just chopped our son's legs and intend to dump him at a place full of murderers, sadists and rapists who also happen to be (im) mortal enemies of our kin. You daughter, will be the one to throw him in there. He will be kicking (or not heh) and screaming but pay no attention to it."

Daughter " Ok, Daddy, no problem."

Mommy : " But Honey, is he going to be all right there?".

Daddy : " Of course, I'm sending this little legless boy in there to rule them."

Mommy " Ah, OK. Makes perfect sense."

Well, at least it is a more creative story than having just another dead father while you go about banging his widow of a wife and his daughters.

 

[Faxe10%]

Well, at least it is a more creative story than having just another dead father while you go about banging his widow of a wife and his daughters.

What do you want with a father!? Hu...None of us chose to be born...but shit...since I'm here I want all the MILFs for myself! Lol. I prefer games where the father is dead and I don't even have a picture of him...hahaha...

 

[AL.d]

Well, at least it is a more creative story than having just another dead father while you go about banging his widow of a wife and his daughters.

How about not banging them at all for a change and treat them like the shitty, irredeemable family they are?

It's obvious the premise was original and interesting enough, otherwise no one would give a fuck and bother talking about it. It's the execution that's baffling.

 

[KeiNineX]

MC: It's too late for that...... We can't be family anymore.
MC 5 seconds later: Getting affection from Emma feels nice, I've missed this.

Just make a kinetic novel at this point....

 

[michael1984]

Yup its ridiculous at this point how the story doesnt make zero sense with the choices

Like people are saying the choices dont mather at all

And its crazy how the mc can be upset one second and be totally fine with all the bs the next second

Sure we gotten some answers regarding why certain things happend

But those answers hardly make any sense

And yeah at this point the game should remove all choices and continue as a kinetic novel

Since it dont matter what u choose at all

 

[Content_Consumer]

I don't know why I'm still reading, Maybe I have this feeling that my feelings on the certain things will change...

Because like a lot of us, you can see there is potential there, but it just isn't being realized currently.
I imagine most of us don't bother with any VN that we can't see potential in, but when we do, we keep trying it each version and hoping to see it morph into what we believe it could be.

 

[michael1984]

The only good thing would be if that vision /dream of the MC becoming a true devil and put a sword trough his mom and sisters and god himself

Caus man why would the mother figure even believe for a second the mc was just sitting and chilling as a king in hell

Specially since he was dropped off all alone as a small child

And not to forget its hell ... This is why it makes zero sense that they all just agreed with thinking he be ok in hell

 

[Bailz]

i just hope their is a choice when it comes to revenge on the family (if we even get that choice with how the MC flip-flops between emotions towards them) because the mom can get sent straight to hell, i would like to spare Raphael she hasn't really done anything wrong and seems genuine when it comes to not knowing about what happened and im still unsure on Azel

 

[Rodrigoofb]

Imma be honest, the fact that Emma thought the MC was sent to hell, but was actually having the time of his life was so bad it was actually funny. She really thought he'd be down there having fun with his demon buddies?

 

[Jazzzzz]

is this just a novel with no sex ?
there are no scenes !!!!!

 

[eddie987]

Imma be honest, the fact that Emma thought the MC was sent to hell, but was actually having the time of his life was so bad it was actually funny. She really thought he'd be down there having fun with his demon buddies?

That's just the dev trying to make them likeable, but actually creating more plot holes. Just check the screenshots I've posted a few months ago, here:
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-falling-reloaded-ch-4-public-whitebear.91469/post-10343197
Back then she thought he might be injured after staying in hell for just a few hours, but now... what? Did she just forget all about those thousands of demons she mentioned herself?

At this point this feels more like the dev responding to critisism, than having a clear view of his own story.

 

[Rodrigoofb]

That's just the dev trying to make them likeable, but actually creating more plot holes. Just check the screenshots I've posted a few months ago, here:
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-falling-reloaded-ch-4-public-whitebear.91469/post-10343197
Back then she thought he might be injured after staying in hell for just a few hours, but now... what? Did she just forget all about those thousands of demons she mentioned herself?

At this point this feels more like the dev responding to critisism, than having a clear view of his own story.

Yep. My only hope now is the full on Devil playthrough, hoping we get to just kill everything and everyone

 

[v1900]

That's just the dev trying to make them likeable, but actually creating more plot holes. Just check the screenshots I've posted a few months ago, here:
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-falling-reloaded-ch-4-public-whitebear.91469/post-10343197
Back then she thought he might be injured after staying in hell for just a few hours, but now... what? Did she just forget all about those thousands of demons she mentioned herself?

At this point this feels more like the dev responding to critisism, than having a clear view of his own story.

Or the bigger plot hole that the MC was prophesied to die in hell. I mean if all the angels knew he was meant to die in hell. How in all the fucks does Emma assumes he is safe and having fun in hell?