perfecteeth

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My review for this game as well as others rating it anything above 4 stars we're removed but the 1 stars and 2 stars from people who dont understand that everything cant be revealed in a single chapter are still up? Were they false flagged or something
 

JB08

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I swear the collective IQ of most F95 users barely breaks room temperature. I dont understand many of the complaints and negative reviews. I think people are just spoiled by shallow stories and even shallower characters that dont require two brain cells to rub together to understand, and instant gratification empty sex scenes, then when a game rolls around with even a faint hint of some depth people shit on it lmao.

I quite like this game. Keep it up dev.
 
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Canto Forte

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This game is so much about the boys and supernatural and the preacher,
about what angels and demons are like:
They are immortals. It does not compute for them to have life ending events.
MC is a pure - true and true - immortal,
his late blooming abilities took literal centuries to manifest.
The point of the story is that the life of all these light beings is about bringing their peers into their light.
MC was not their peer, but a speck of underdevelopped potential
outcast from the perfect existence of heaven and sent to dwell with the other subpar beings: in hell.
Remember: Hell could be anything you make it, most demons are also immortal,
but all they manage to do for centuriess on end is ... pain and suffering. MC was the receiver of all of that.
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The angels managed to bring MC into the light ... in their special way:
they took centuries of half measures and limitations they put themselves in their heads,
they still thought pops gave a damn.
They still thought MC was deep into his part of the program of ”awakening” his gifts through sheer pain.
They have thus far brought MC into the light. Emm fear of MC getting lost is precisely
what made his guardian teleport him to earth. Unity/God exfilled MC outta hell in the wake of a bloodbath.
MC is now more deserving of ”ascending” into the light then ever: he overcame and conquered hell literally.
Becoming the ”king of the hill” literal most dangerous monster in hell earned him ascension with the angels.

Revel in this heaven on earth along side our MC with all the angel beauties, gamers.
 
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Rodrigoofb

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This game is so much about the boys and supernatural and the preacher,
about what angels and demons are like:
They are immortals. It does not compute for them to have life ending events.
MC is a pure - true and true - immortal,
his late blooming abilities took literal centuries to manifest.
The point of the story is that the life of all these light beings is about bringing their peers into their light.
MC was not their peer, but a speck of underdevelopped potential
outcast from the perfect existence of heaven and sent to dwell with the other subpar beings: in hell.
Remember: Hell could be anything you make it, most demons are also immortal,
but all they manage to do for centuriess on end is ... pain and suffering. MC was the receiver of all of that.

The angels managed to bring MC into the light ... in their special way:
they took centuries of half measures and limitations they put themselves in their heads,
they still thought pops gave a damn.
They still thought MC was deep into his part of the program of ”awakening” his gifts through sheer pain.
They have thus far brought MC into the light. Emm fear of MC getting lost is precisely
what made his guardian teleport him to earth. Unity/God exfilled MC outta hell in the wake of a bloodbath.
MC is now more deserving of ”ascending” into the light then ever: he overcame and conquered hell literally.
Becoming the ”king of the hill” literal most dangerous monster in hell earned him ascension with the angels.

Revel in this heaven on earth along side our MC with all the angel beauties, gamers.
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DrakoGhoul

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I dont know if somebody said it before or not but i think i know why god exile mc to hell and took his wings so that he cant touch god and steal his power :D
Sorry fam, but you're late to that party. I don't even think I was first either. It's just that obvious. Especially when you look at what "dad's" powers are.

Now to the reveal of Dad aka God. I feel like "God" did what he did because of the MC's power. The MC would potentially break the established balance and wreak havok if he was able to copy God and Emma's power. So why not take his wings and lock him in hell before that happens? Only problem is the MC escaped said fate. Not saying this is the only reason he sent him to hell but it wouldn't shock me if he saw a future of the MC copying everyone's power and going mad.
If Goddess is God's near equal and he's able to get both of their powers then it's obvious why that would be a problem.
 

v1900

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This game is so much about the boys and supernatural and the preacher,
about what angels and demons are like:
They are immortals. It does not compute for them to have life ending events.
MC is a pure - true and true - immortal,
his late blooming abilities took literal centuries to manifest.
The point of the story is that the life of all these light beings is about bringing their peers into their light.
MC was not their peer, but a speck of underdevelopped potential
outcast from the perfect existence of heaven and sent to dwell with the other subpar beings: in hell.
Remember: Hell could be anything you make it, most demons are also immortal,
but all they manage to do for centuriess on end is ... pain and suffering. MC was the receiver of all of that.

The angels managed to bring MC into the light ... in their special way:
they took centuries of half measures and limitations they put themselves in their heads,
they still thought pops gave a damn.
They still thought MC was deep into his part of the program of ”awakening” his gifts through sheer pain.
They have thus far brought MC into the light. Emm fear of MC getting lost is precisely
what made his guardian teleport him to earth. Unity/God exfilled MC outta hell in the wake of a bloodbath.
MC is now more deserving of ”ascending” into the light then ever: he overcame and conquered hell literally.
Becoming the ”king of the hill” literal most dangerous monster in hell earned him ascension with the angels.

Revel in this heaven on earth along side our MC with all the angel beauties, gamers.
No, not really. This game is a half-baked idea going nowhere with the patch work the dev has been doing lately.
 
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This is the second update in a row that has focused on trying to get those of us who hated Emma to look at her more favourably, and I don't think it was very effective. She's gone from being an uncaring lecherous woman to a ridiculously stupid and incompetent mother. So people who disliked her before, still do, but for slightly different reasons. Or maybe they still hate her for the old reasons because her new excuses weren't very convincing.

One example would be how she apologizes for how inappropriate she has been, and then blames it on how we absorbed her powers of seduction and were using them on her unintentionally. But neither of the other two women we lived with were throwing themselves at us the way that she was, and she was practically drooling at the thought of us before we even returned to her, so explanations seem more like excuses than anything.

I still think that the best path forward is to just move the plot forward. Let people who dislike her choose to keep pushing her away, and start to develop the other character in the game. We did get a few choices in the game to do things like blame her for what happened at school, push her hand away, and refuse to touch her. However, we still end up sleeping next to Emma in her room. Which is seems to me like a bad idea considering the talk they just had about how their pheromones couldn't be turned off. You would think that would be one more reason for him to be sleeping alone.

The flashback to Inessa was the biggest case of blue balls the game has dished out yet, and the game ended on yet another cliffhanger. So there wasn't really anything fun in this update. There was some interesting stuff about two of the characters in his head, but was the only part of the update that I thought was good.

There is still a lot of potential for this game to be good, and I hope this latest cliffhanger will be the catalyst to get things rolling again.
 

jetama

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I like this game, renders are nice and the story concept is really cool. Sometimes it feels like however that the dev is writing the story as they go, it isn't consistent at times. There are a few spelling errors and grammar mistakes too, but their English seems fine which makes me think they do not proofread. Also, no sex, just teasing, and we’re at chapter 4.

Really wanna see this game do well but part of me feels it’s going to be abandoned.
 
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In my opinion dev lost his original plot maybe forgot about his initial plans or this was all meant for a teaser VN not a complete story.

The best course of action would have been moving with the prologue plot story. (y)

  • He was weaker than he had initially thought and elders would have fucked him along with his shadow demon army completely.

  • He decided to get stronger while being under Emma's protection and gathering more abilities also information.

  • Emma being a Goddess herself, understood her son's dilemma and eventually learning about his traumatic nightmares and suicidal tendencies.

  • Emma's motherly instincts takeover her reluctance to interfere with her husband's plan for restoring balance in Hell, so she eventually helps MC meet with Azel (Goddess of Death), after few back and forth fighting for answers MC burying the hatchet upon realising God has made it impossible for other angels to hear his pleading and prayers.

  • The family re-union with Mom and two / three sisters. Then MC asks Azel about Hell girl Innessa's dead soul. However, Azel isn't ready to bring back the dead. MC learns about forbidden black magic and it's existence from Raphael.
Ghost set out to learn Black magic from demons and devils. Ghost learns about fallen archangel Azazel and her book. Whereas MC wants to copy new Angel skills from his family and extended family members.

Emma and her daughters introducing MC her son to various kinds of immortal creatures, witches and sorcerers. MC is asked to join the secret society of myths, but he has to train in magical abilities. MC gets more opportunities to get closer and copy their skills at this university.
However, MC learns that copying skills from Angels Or similar level beings isn't easy. And he needs to Fuck them first without forcing himself upon them. The story continues..

If you still didn't understand where this plot is heading ; let me further elaborate.
End credit scenes
- Ghost vows to make God suffer for everything. Our MC promises to get his wings back and take revenge on God also his lackey.
Then in a distance somewhere unknown a crow flies down and Azazel is introduced. She's smiles saying "You are free at last My Son". And end credit.
 
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v1900

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In my opinion dev lost his original plot maybe forgot about his initial plans or this was all meant for a teaser VN not a complete story.

The best course of action would have been moving with the prologue plot story. (y)

  • He was weaker than he had initially thought and elders would have fucked him along with his shadow demon army completely.

  • He decided to get stronger while being under Emma's protection and gathering more abilities also information.

  • Emma being a Goddess herself, understood her son's dilemma and eventually learning about his traumatic nightmares and suicidal tendencies.

  • Emma's motherly instincts takeover her reluctance to interfere with her husband's plan for restoring balance in Hell, so she eventually helps MC meet with Azel (Goddess of Death), after few back and forth fighting for answers MC burying the hatchet upon realising God has made it impossible for other angels to hear his pleading and prayers.

  • The family re-union with Mom and two / three sisters. Then MC asks Azel about Hell girl Innessa's dead soul. However, Azel isn't ready to bring back the dead. MC learns about forbidden black magic and it's existence from Raphael.
Ghost set out to learn Black magic from demons and devils. Ghost learns about fallen archangel Azazel and her book. Whereas MC wants to copy new Angel skills from his family and extended family members.

Emma and her daughters introducing MC her son to various kinds of immortal creatures, witches and sorcerers. MC is asked to join the secret society of myths, but he has to train in magical abilities. MC gets more opportunities to get closer and copy their skills at this university.
However, MC learns that copying skills from Angels Or similar level beings isn't easy. And he needs to Fuck them first without forcing himself upon them. The story continues..
That's the problem right there. If the dev had stuck to the prologue's plot line, then the whole family (including the mother and sisters) should be antagonists. It is clearly stated that the father tore out MC's wings in front of everybody and cast him to hell and none gave a damn (including the mother). Add to that he was prophesied to die in hell and you can clearly see that they can't be considered LIs or even allies.

We can see that is the case as all reasons given so far to make them look less guilty go against what has been said of how their world works. For example:

They say they couldn't find him, but the angels can come and go to and from hell and are well informed of what is going on there. When the MC escapes from hell the mother knows immediately and knows where he is as she herself states that she can feel his presence at all times, that's why she was pissed off with Raphael as she wasn't fast enough for her liking instead of getting off her fat ass and go herself to fetch him. But then there is all the new contradictory information on the later chapters stating that she was not aware or that she couldn't hear prayers or such excuses, when it would just have sufficed if she got off her fat ass go down to hell feel the presence of her son and go take a look.

She can't claim not knowing he was not safe in hell as she knew he was supposed to die there and she sure as hell did not know he would survive. Evident by the fact that even the mysterious entity who sent shadow bitch (Nyks?) is now interested and Emma was not aware of Ghost who is responsible for the MC not dying.

As someone has already said, the new excuses the dev is giving the characters to conform to the new plot makes them look like incompetent retards:
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-falling-reloaded-ch-4-public-whitebear.91469/post-10931169
 

Raziel_8

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Let's go over the negatives first:
- MC still moping about Inessa - It was fine first few times, but just stop. Move on. It's even more annoying if it's a save where MC didn't get any friendship conversations with her. It's understandable but repetitive for friendship/love path.
Yeah, so much this.
But it got even worse than before, i thaught he is so because she is dead and he lost someone important to him.

But what he says is:
''I don't care if she died; she died because of me.''
''I promised her to protect her...''
''I couldn't keep my promise...''
''...Losing Inessa killed me.''

I mean, really, that is your whole problem, not so much that she is dead, but the promise and that she died while he was away...

Q1. Why the family wasn't so adamant on trying to break us out of Hell?
A1. They didn't know or at least believe we were being tortured. Whether it be a naive way of thinking or not; we have to understand these Angels have been quite literally created to worship and obey God and Goddess their ENTIRE existence. As far as they know God is honest and his worst is LITERALLY divine mandate, if he has a track record of NEVER lying, this could be the reason they took his word at face value. To them, we were rebelling against everything they have come to know, ever.
Well, first, Emma is the goddess not an angel, and god literally just lied straight to all their faces as he left the MC in hell, contrary to what he promised.

The MC had his wings ripped out, they didn't even heal him, he was still bleeding as we see him as he was dropped there.
First thing Emma does is going against god, telling Azel to get the MC out and to kill everyone who stands in her way.
God not only forbidding anyone to go, he threatens that whoever disobeys also lands in hell.
How does any of this makes you belive in ''he is fine and happy there'' ?

And they believed he ruled hell all this time ?
He was a young child with no powers, in a place surrounded with only enemys, how should have that even worked...
And who would have raised an angel child ? The nice demonlord next door ?

Add to that, Emma/Azel/Raphael all knew demons, even some powerfull ones, no one ever asked, how is my child/brother doing in ruling down there ?

I get the dev is trying to fill some plotholes and make the family more likeable/redeeming them, but he just makes more plotholes. What reason is given here is so bad that it either sounds completely unbelievable, or let them look like absolute morons.
Q5. Why was Emma so sexually invested/suggestive to us?
A5. Again, I always said it, this was not one of the main issues, as it was OBVIOUS that it was the influence of our powers. But everyone was so mad that she was trying to ride us, man just use your heads. Shit emin this update she even tries to reject the idea of coming on to us, stop complaining.
She was a cougar even before meet again, like the first time we see her she is salivating over the thought seeing the MC's body again and before the MC had even the opportunity to copy her powers.
And in this update, just after she noticed it, she is again half naked infront of him, preaching how that's all normal and mortal rules don't apply for them.

I think, though I could be mistaken, the MC said he was in Hell for about 400 years.

So we could estimate it to be about 30-40 Earth years.
He just said for centuries, he has no clue how long exactly.
We have Emma which says they move all 50years or so.
In the talk sex/virgin talk of Azel and the MC they talk about what she did in the centuries she is freely roaming earth.
We also have Azel, which says she does her job for millenia, when she brings the MC to hell she is still young herself, likely not much older than the MC or Raphael and she wasn't in hell with the time difference.
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Honestly i think it's best to just not think too much about it, or use whatever fits you best.


Hah, an other update with Emma taking center stage...meanwhile one or two talks with Raphael.
Well i like and share Ghost's reaction of the MC going to therapy (i just hope it wasn't a illusion).
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v1900

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What I was pointing at is that your whole idea neatly explained step by step would not work just as the dev's plot does not work because it is incongruent with the prologue.

How so, the family was written as not giving a rat's ass about the MC. Even the mother was portrayed more like a mob boss than a mother. Even the big picture of the plot is not congruent with any form of happy family.

Allow me to frame it in an example substituting angels and demons with countries:

Imagine that Germany and France get into a heated discussion :sneaky:. So they end up creating a Little Country (MC), but they fucked-up and half of each country's nuclear arsenal ends up in this new country. So Germany panics and calls for an emergency meeting of the European Union. At the meeting Germany just says:

Germany - I am nuking the new Little Country and taking it's nuclear delivery systems. None against it? None? Awesome.

So, Little Country goes boom, loses everything except all its fissile material.

Germany - So anyway, Spain I see that you have direct access to Africa. Do me a solid and dump that pile of smoldering shit in Africa.

Spain - Sure no problem

Germany - Best if it is not in North Africa, dump it in Central Africa. You know, where there is a bunch of sick warlords that like to mutilate and skull fuck people.

Spain - Oh for sure it shall be done.


So the Little Country's smoldering wreck gets dumped in Central Africa to be mutilated and skull fucked but then this nice and not at all suspicious black market dealer called Ghost tells the Little Country he can give it delivery systems for its fissile material. Now it's in business nuking Central Africa. So Little Country shat all over Africa and needs to get the fuck out. Now that it's out he gets a call from the European Union.

Austria - So hey Little Country, Germany says that you need to rule over Africa now that you are powerful. You know because the balance and shit, not because we are scared of all the fissile material you have. Just stay put and you know don't come close... (call disconnects).

New call.

France - So... Hey dear how you been? Peachy I bet. So, anyway me and some other little bitch countries had a spat with Germany and we would like to know if you would like to be in our side, seeing as you have all that fissile material. You know we did nothing to stop Germany when it nuke your ass but you know we all have our own hides to save. No hard feelings give me a call I have some nice blonds here waiting for you... (call disconnects).

So, what should Little Country do?

  • Be a bitch and go to France and learn to stuff baguette up its ass.
  • Call any other country and ask how far it wants to fuck with the European Union

That's it, that's the same situation the MC is at. He has to return to his mother and be ok with it just because she had a spat with his father after the fact. So, she having a spat after the fact makes it ok and the plot has to be built under that premise. While I will admit that your version is better than the dev's, it still does not follow a logical continuation of the prologue. What would work is to go back to the prologue and fix the incongruencies with the mother and siblings, have them have some reaction to his demise and a set of powers that are congruent and uniform with them not been able to rescue him. And while the dev is at it, he could fix the balance of MC's power seeing as he single handedly brought hell to it's knees but gets bitch slapped by any angel he has fought against, the balance is a joke then. The so called balance is already broken and based on the power the MC has, anyone other than the MC can cause the Apocalypse if he/she farts the wrong way so there is no reason for the balance to be on MC's head.
 
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