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Yes, the choices need to matter more, it's just dumb when you reject Emma at every opportunity and 5 seconds later he is commenting on how he missed her touch...
Yeah, with Ghost and him being able to take control over his body, his other 2 persona, Inessa, the dreams/nightmares, hallucinations, sleepwalking/day dreaming (or whatever you want to call it) and him being sucidal it really feels like an trip to the insane asylum (especialy this ep)...and it gets worse not better...i really miss the begining, before he was going full on emo.
At this point i would happy if Emma goes in his mind and nukes his memorys of Inessa, his other imaginary 'friends' and Ghost (actually that would redeem her imo more than anything else the dev tried so far). I just want that mental crap to be over and done with, so we can move on with the story which was interesting early on.
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WHAAAAAT!!! people dont like the story of the MC who is the badass king of hell, killed half of hell then escaped only to then be sent to collage and see a therapist
it sounds little bit silly to be telling it like that, but overall it is correct....wich is little bit disturbing
I don't believe that either. If she did, then her pussy gotta be one real loose hole to 'explore'. MC's gonna need some serious backup to get the job done and make his mommy happy. Even the Supreme Dickhead would laugh his ass off at seeing him trying to do that.
Shocking, right ?? Nobody would've anticipated that.
But what I find almost as funny as this completely unexpected thing is the strength of these characters. So basically, the MC was strong enough to kill a shitload of demons AND their leaders in a couple of earthly days or months leaving the place with nobody strong and capable enough to rule it in his absence, but fails to defeat Azel, who didn't fight him seriously out of fear not to kill him, just coz she's an archangel ?? Da fuck ?? If that's the case, the whole 'balance' bullshit excuse flies out the window, coz if even Azel can put those bitches in their place, why would they give a shit about it and not go on a rampage to exterminate all demons, or at least the strongest ones, so they could do whatever they want ?? And again, why was it necessary for the MC to be sent to Hell ??
It doesn't make sense. Nobody knew he had any type of powers, he couldn't fly, and he was just a kid, so it's impossible that Emma was sexually attracted to him for obvious reasons, so why was he banned in Hell, where he should've died, according to Nyx's prophecy ??
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In my opinion dev lost his original plot maybe forgot about his initial plans or this was all meant for a teaser VN not a complete story.
The best course of action would have been moving with the prologue plot story.
- He was weaker than he had initially thought and elders would have fucked him along with his shadow demon army completely.
- He decided to get stronger while being under Emma's protection and gathering more abilities also information.
- Emma being a Goddess herself, understood her son's dilemma and eventually learning about his traumatic nightmares and suicidal tendencies.
- Emma's motherly instincts takeover her reluctance to interfere with her husband's plan for restoring balance in Hell, so she eventually helps MC meet with Azel (Goddess of Death), after few back and forth fighting for answers MC burying the hatchet upon realising God has made it impossible for other angels to hear his pleading and prayers.
Ghost set out to learn Black magic from demons and devils. Ghost learns about fallen archangel Azazel and her book. Whereas MC wants to copy new Angel skills from his family and extended family members.
- The family re-union with Mom and two / three sisters. Then MC asks Azel about Hell girl Innessa's dead soul. However, Azel isn't ready to bring back the dead. MC learns about forbidden black magic and it's existence from Raphael.
Emma and her daughters introducing MC her son to various kinds of immortal creatures, witches and sorcerers. MC is asked to join the secret society of myths, but he has to train in magical abilities. MC gets more opportunities to get closer and copy their skills at this university.
However, MC learns that copying skills from Angels Or similar level beings isn't easy. And he needs to Fuck them first without forcing himself upon them. The story continues..
If you still didn't understand where this plot is heading ; let me further elaborate.
End credit scenes - Ghost vows to make God suffer for everything. Our MC promises to get his wings back and take revenge on God also his lackey.
Then in a distance somewhere unknown a crow flies down and Azazel is introduced. She's smiles saying "You are free at last My Son". And end credit.
Yes I agree with you this would have been a better plot for Anti-Hero story suited for this VN. Nobody asked dev for devil and angel routes players want continuity not Kinetic novel with meaningless choices. Ah, Yes, an adult VN needs some sexual content with the Li without disturbing the story continuity. Sadly, dev cannot write a better plot story is certain at this point. the truth is way more easier....
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You're basically saying that same thing. LOL. Truth. Dev doesn't have an original plot anymore but his plot to milk is original.
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I think 2 years of development and 4 chapters is more than enough time to expect the developer to have given a clear indication of where the story was headed.
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after the prologue the plot had a worse execution then an inmate on death row
I think the reason she followed his orders is because at that point, she did fear him if only for a brief moment. if God can do anything, he could erase those who don't follow his commands. the second Emma talked about going to hell to get MC, he immediately sealed all of the passageways to hell. as for why none of them knew what happened to MC, keep in mind that up till this point, God hadn't lied to them. my last point is MC can copy powers and likely did this as a child and so the omnipotent dickwad decided "my son can copy powers? time to get rid of the a threat"Yeah, that hypocritical fucker teaching humans how bad being in multiple relationships and fucking around is while he's a bigger manwhore than Zeus was (if he ever existed) would be a funny argument the MC could use against him, but I suspect the angels with black wings are either fallen or hybrid angels mentioned in the story, which raises the question, how were these hybrid angels born and why do they still listen to Emma when the Supreme Dickhead should theoretically be their only boss ??
Her being the most powerful goddess was specifically stated in the story on a few occasions, but we don't know if she was his favorite too. I mean, I can't blame the old dickhead if she was, she's hot AF, and it would explain why he'd still let her command his angels, but this would also imply that she could've used her feminine charms to at least make him ban the MC on Earth and seal his powers away instead of sending him to his death. Another plot hole is that at the time the Supreme Dickhead sent him to Hell, he never showed an ounce of potential, he couldn't even fly, so how did old idiot suspect he'd become that big of a threat to him ??
One thing's sure, the dev has a LOOOT of stuff to fix, address and redeem in this story if he actually wants ppl to support him and finish the game. I hope he'll do just that, coz like most of us here, I like the game, the renders alone make it worth the wait, but all those inconsistencies, ridiculous arguments and plot holes won't convince ppl it's worth supporting.
I know, and if that's the case, why didn't she control Azel to stop her from following her father's order ?? Azel claimed she ain't afraid of him, but she still did everything he ordered her to do, even if it meant condemning her so-called dear brother to a brutal death, so why not stop her and deal with the consequences afterward ?? Like I said, the more rational we think about the story, the stupider it'll become, and this is the games biggest minus.
What about the whole thing "Let's send him to hell for a few hours. Azel be a dear and show him the way." ... "Ok now Azel is back, let's make it permanent vacation"
I'd say that if someone tells you something to get what what he wants and immediately renege on it the moment he get's it count as big f*cking lie.
edit: sorry, was more in the headspace of the current update when Emma said "God never lied to them before" as he said MC is "fine" in hell, rather than understanding your post
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np. I also wanna point out God could have given any reason as to why he would do this. angels, by most definitions are taught to never question God's word and while Emma is no doubt almost God's equal, her powers aren't like his meaning she can't simply go to hell if she wants. MC could be seen as almost being like Lucifer minus the rebellion part. with God's powers, he likely saw a future where MC would rebel against him and cause a war between angels who side with God and those who side with MC. we can basically sum this up to God being a massive pile of shit who deserves a cosmic beatdown while everyone watches with popcorn
3rd woman. although we don't know if she gave birth or helped create him
- Dec 4, 2017
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Voting rights for story is pretty much always bad.
But in this case i find it somehow really difficult to believe that the supporters of the early game voted for a college emo boy and therapy...
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She has demon friends on earth (or she could have used her powers on any demon), Raphael and Azel has demon friends in college, they could have simply asked if they know something. The only angel in hell shouldn't be to hard to miss...mind you, they actually believed the MC ruled hell the entire time...smehow, as kid, with no powers...that would be pretty much impossible not to know for any demon.
If he know about that and MC's power, he is just as much as an morron as the ones which believed the MC was fine and happy in hell.
Why send him to hell for a slow, painful death, with the risk of him freeing himself/being freed (and having a granted wish for revenge) and not simply kill him ? I mean, he is the most powerful being in existence and has absolute control over space, he should be capable enough to make it look like a accident.
the reason most demons wouldn't know is due to them not being strong enough to go to hell. even the demon MC gets the book from isn't strong enough. I doubt half-demons would know anything. and for the God thing, he likely didn't care to look beyond a certain point after throwing MC into hell thinking he wouldn't be strong enough to kill his torturer let alone escape
I don't know about others but yes even serious and gory plots can incorporate sex scenes to release some steam and tension.
Thank you. Development team could have made more money paying attention to the plot quality rather than scheming to piss off story lovers with several cheap tricks.