drifter139

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I cannot forgive the dev for what she did with her. Im just praying that he will bring her back somehow , I dont know if I will be able to enjoy they game the same way .....
that would undermine the plot and MC's development. why kill her only to bring her back later? her death is what leads MC to change over time. if you came here for a happily ever after plot, this game is not the one for you. besides, MC went genocidal and from what we saw, basically killed anyone fit to rule hell. at this point bringing her back would undo every bit of growth he went through in favor of "he deserves to love someone despite all the demons he killed"
 

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This is that scene which made this Chapter - 4 update, most horrendous and ridiculously digest for most players, if not all.

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This scene takes place after Raphael wants MC and Azel to attend college, here as you could see our MC outright telling Emma, Raphael and Azel about him being tortured in hell. This sentence and his scars alone should have been enough to tell his family how his hellish vacation has treated him. Yet it was insisted by Emma and others that they were never aware of his experience in hell.
 

lepoutanol

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that would undermine the plot and MC's development. why kill her only to bring her back later? her death is what leads MC to change over time. if you came here for a happily ever after plot, this game is not the one for you. besides, MC went genocidal and from what we saw, basically killed anyone fit to rule hell. at this point bringing her back would undo every bit of growth he went through in favor of "he deserves to love someone despite all the demons he killed"
Bringing her back would be the only way to make him feel 'alive' and 'being loved' again.
she was the only female remotly showing any real care for the MC from the start
All the other females did zero or not enough to help the MC
And all we got is,her been killed after only like 5 minutes of screen time, but then we HAVE to be tortured by seeing her everywhere. I think the happily ever after plot would be still in the plate even if Inessa died, because there are so many other characters who can be involved with the MC, but not in the possibly in the lvl of Inessa..... I would vote for Inessa all the way tho.....
 

XV71

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the short dream mc had in ch4 was better than all 4 chapters combined.
terrible story
0 Li's
the best thing this game could do is have the mc destroy the BALANCE as the biggest form of FU to god,
but it's hard to tell where exactly this game is going it went from destroying hell to sunshine rainbows, shopping, college, family time, and therapy:ROFLMAO:.
beautiful renders are nice and all but they can't save a story-focused game like this.
 

Raziel_8

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that would undermine the plot and MC's development. why kill her only to bring her back later? her death is what leads MC to change over time. if you came here for a happily ever after plot, this game is not the one for you. besides, MC went genocidal and from what we saw, basically killed anyone fit to rule hell. at this point bringing her back would undo every bit of growth he went through in favor of "he deserves to love someone despite all the demons he killed"
I agree that she should stay dead, and also finally get rid of her in his dreams.
But what growth are you talking about ? He hasn't had any growth so far, he is just moping around, having nightmares, hallucinations, being suicidal and going along with everything the oh so loving family wants...

Bringing her back would be the only way to make him feel 'alive' and 'being loved' again.
she was the only female remotly showing any real care for the MC from the start
All the other females did zero or not enough to help the MC
And all we got is,her been killed after only like 5 minutes of screen time, but then we HAVE to be tortured by seeing her everywhere. I think the happily ever after plot would be still in the plate even if Inessa died, because there are so many other characters who can be involved with the MC, but not in the possibly in the lvl of Inessa..... I would vote for Inessa all the way tho.....
It isn't about being loved for the MC thought.
Or as he says, he doesn't care that she died, but that she died because of him, about him not able to protect her/not keeping his promisse.

Which is is dumb imo, he forgives his entire family asap, even if they didn't do shit or threw him in hell, because reasons...but him being deceived by an enemy (even thought the only thing he ever knew was being tortured since he was a child) is unforgivable to a point he thinks his entire life has no meaning anymore...

We also see happy moments with Raphael in the past, as the MC says 'happiest moments of his life', but with how much the dev has fucked up the family so far...

This is that scene which made this Chapter - 4 update, most horrendous and ridiculously digest for most players, if not all.
It's not only that scene...
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The story is just ridiculous at this point...
 
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lepoutanol

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I agree that she should stay dead, and also finally get rid of her in his dreams.
But what growth are you talking about ? He hasn't had any growth so far, he is just moping around, having nightmares, hallucinations, being suicidal and going along with everything the oh so loving family wants...


It isn't about being loved for the MC thought.
Or as he says, he doesn't care that she died, but because she died because of him, about him not able to protect her/not keeping his promisse.

We also see happy moments with Raphael in the past, but with how much the dev has fucked up the family so far...


It's not only that scene...
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The 3 girls are his family so they cant be LIs.When he was with Inessa he felt loved by her and she was the only person that made him feel that way.So for me she is the 'one'. I dont know how, but the dev just must to somehow bring her back because if not then the game will be doomed....
 

Raziel_8

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The 3 girls are his family so they cant be LIs
They are the main LI's :HideThePain:
You will maybe get Nyks at some point, thought the dev as well as the MC seems to have completely forgotten about her...
Maybe some of the girls we meet at college, but no idea where the dev even wants to go with the story at this point
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
When he was with Inessa he felt loved by her and she was the only person that made him feel that way
He felt also loved by Raphael and Emma in the past (and Emma in present if you go for her), as for Inessa i ignored her, so the whole thing is even worse...but you get the same lines either way, that he didn't care she died, what does bother him is that he feels responsible for it, doesn't sound like the love did go very deep for the MC.

As for the ''girl'' he feels the most love and care towards, that would be Luna imo.

But hey, the dev continuously ignores (or maybe forgets) what he wrote in the last ep, so maybe in the next we will find out the MC thought of her as his soulmate and was already hearing the wedding bells...
I dont know how, but the dev just must to somehow bring her back because if not then the game will be doomed....
How would that even make sense at this point...so far we have no one which can revive the dead, not to mention we had to suffer through all the whining only so she can pop up again, yeah.. no thanks.
Personaly i hope Emma will nuke his memory of her and get the story finaly moving forward before this turns completely mental, the current ep was bad enough in that regard...
 
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lepoutanol

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They are the main LI's :HideThePain:
You will maybe get Nyks at some point, thought the dev as well as the MC seems to have completely forgotten about her...
Maybe some of the girls we meet at college, but no idea where the dev even wants to go with the story at this point
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He felt also loved by Raphael and Emma in the past (and Emma in present if you go for her), as for Inessa i ignored her, so the whole thing is even worse...but you get the same lines either way, that he didn't care she died, what does bother him is that he feels responsible for it, doesn't sound like the love did go very deep for the MC.

As for the ''girl'' he feels the most love and care towards, that would be Luna imo.

But hey, the dev continuously ignores (or maybe forgets) what he wrote in the last ep, so maybe in the next we will find out the MC thought of her as his soulmate and was already hearing the wedding bells...

How would that even make sense at this point...so far we have no one which can revive the dead, not to mention we had to suffer through all the whining only so she can pop up again, yeah.. no thanks.
Personaly i hope Emma will nuke his memory of her and get the story finaly moving forward before this turns completely mental, the current ep was bad enough in that regard...
I dont know in your country but I think all over the world this type of LIs are forbidden.Every dev that makes games like this naming landlady refering to the mom and roomate refering to the sister is the same.They call it forbidden also.How can they be LIs if they are family?If they were from dif father or mother I would be okay with it... but now, mother son r.s, sister brother r.s . jesus!And dont make fun of me saying hearing the bells or whatever. We can travel through worlds with this book.I think it wont be hard with this book or azazel's book to bring back the dead.Things are eazy.Dev making em hard.Emma isnt like his mother mother?I dont know really what's on people's minds sometimes. No shame..... tsk tsk tsk
 
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michael1984

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Yeah i forgot about Luna she and Inessa are the best females in the game period

Even tho Inessa died pretty quickly

But yeah maybe the college girls and women are Li as well and we can have fun with those

Caus for the family female angels the story needs a major overhaul of the writing

Story makes sense in some way but in more parts it doesnt make sense at all

And i think the whole voting on the story direction is the major issue here

The writer seems to have to create something that doesnt add up with previous updates

And the females reactions towards the mc is just off putting

Heck even the blond mother angel she almost naked and i was like yeah nah hard pass :LOL:

And she hot af :ROFLMAO: So yeah thats just how the story made me put off on her... i couldnt care less for her looks at that point
 

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I dont know in your country but I think all over the world this type of LIs are forbidden.How can they be LIs if they are family?If they were from dif father or mother I would be okay with it... but now, mother son r.s, sister brother r.s . jesus!And dont make fun of me saying hearing the bells or whatever. We can travel through worlds with this book.I think it wont be hard with this book or azazel's book to bring back the dead.Things are eazy.Dev making em hard.Emma isnt like his mother mother?I dont know really what's on people's minds sometimes. No shame..... tsk tsk tsk
First day on the internet?
 

lepoutanol

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Incest and porn have been pretty prevalent since like the 70s...
Bro I havent talked about porn or whatever you are saying.I talked about forbidden love between family members.Every dev that making game and calls the mother landlady and the sister roomate just to trick the patreon code so they can pass as available LIs.And this also happens in the real world. Its forbidden love between those.
 

Raziel_8

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I dont know in your country but I think all over the world this type of LIs are forbidden.Every dev that makes games like this naming landlord and roomate is the same.They call it forbidden also.How can they be LIs if they are family?If they were from dif father or mother I would be okay with it... but now, mother son r.s, sister brother r.s . jesus!And dont make fun of me saying hearing the bells or whatever. We can travel through worlds with this book.I think it wont be hard with this book or azazel's book to bring back the dead.Things are eazy.Dev making em hard.Emma isnt like his mother mother?I dont know really what's on people's minds sometimes. No shame..... tsk tsk tsk
...incest is one of the most popular genres, but if you think thats fucked up wait until you see some more...let's call it, exotic fetishes :LOL:
I talked about forbidden love between family members.Every dev that making game and calls the mother landlady and the sister roomate just to trick the patreon code so they can pass as available LIs
Not every dev does it that way, but it's popular, also likely why the dev stoped calling Emma mom and such, only happens in ep1.

No i wasn't making fun of you with the wedding bells, you just never know what comes next with this game, thats all.
Also all the angels are brothers and sisters, but likely not in the same sense as humans are, with Emma the Goddess and God as their creators.
 

lepoutanol

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...incest is one of the most popular genres, but if you think thats fucked up wait until you see some more...let's call it, exotic fetishes :LOL:

Not every dev does it that way, but it's popular, also likely why the dev stoped calling Emma mom and such, only happens in ep1.

No i wasn't making fun of you with the wedding bells, you just never know what comes next with this game, thats all.
Also all the angels are brothers and sisters, but likely not in the same sense as humans are, with Emma the Goddess and God as their creators.
Okay!Im glad you werent making fun of me haha. Other than that I still believe that relationships like these shouldn't just be made like that. They could say that they are brother and sister from another mother. I dont know . Its just feels weird . It doesnt feel the same you know.?
 

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Okay!Im glad you werent making fun of me haha. Other than that I still believe that relationships like these shouldn't just be made like that. They could say that they are brother and sister from another mother. I dont know . Its just feels weird . It doesnt feel the same you know.?
You do know that this VN is tagged as incest? Right?

Also, it is standard practice to have the main LIs displayed on the banner for the VN.

You might want to prepare for it because it is heading that way. :LOL:
 

lepoutanol

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You do know that this VN is tagged as incest? Right?

Also, it is standard practice to have the main LIs displayed on the banner for the VN.

You might want to prepare for it because it is heading that way. :LOL:
Yeah I saw it is tagged as incest.But this doesnt erase the fact that it is just wrong.I already know what the direction is going to be that's why I'm trying to convince the dev make some things different
 
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