VN Ren'Py Abandoned The Falling Reloaded [Ch. 6] [WhiteBear]

[| Vee |]

This is that scene which made this Chapter - 4 update, most horrendous and ridiculously digest for most players, if not all.

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This scene takes place after Raphael wants MC and Azel to attend college, here as you could see our MC outright telling Emma, Raphael and Azel about him being tortured in hell. This sentence and his scars alone should have been enough to tell his family how his hellish vacation has treated him. Yet it was insisted by Emma and others that they were never aware of his experience in hell.

I agree that she should stay dead, and also finally get rid of her in his dreams.
But what growth are you talking about ? He hasn't had any growth so far, he is just moping around, having nightmares, hallucinations, being suicidal and going along with everything the oh so loving family wants...


It isn't about being loved for the MC thought.
Or as he says, he doesn't care that she died, but that she died because of him, about him not able to protect her/not keeping his promisse.

Which is is dumb imo, he forgives his entire family asap, even if they didn't do shit or threw him in hell, because reasons...but him being deceived by an enemy (even thought the only thing he ever knew was being tortured since he was a child) is unforgivable to a point he thinks his entire life has no meaning anymore...

We also see happy moments with Raphael in the past, as the MC says 'happiest moments of his life', but with how much the dev has fucked up the family so far...


It's not only that scene...

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The story is just ridiculous at this point...

They are the main LI's
You will maybe get Nyks at some point, thought the dev as well as the MC seems to have completely forgotten about her...
Maybe some of the girls we meet at college, but no idea where the dev even wants to go with the story at this point
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
He felt also loved by Raphael and Emma in the past (and Emma in present if you go for her), as for Inessa i ignored her, so the whole thing is even worse...but you get the same lines either way, that he didn't care she died, what does bother him is that he feels responsible for it, doesn't sound like the love did go very deep for the MC.

As for the ''girl'' he feels the most love and care towards, that would be Luna imo.

But hey, the dev continuously ignores (or maybe forgets) what he wrote in the last ep, so maybe in the next we will find out the MC thought of her as his soulmate and was already hearing the wedding bells...

How would that even make sense at this point...so far we have no one which can revive the dead, not to mention we had to suffer through all the whining only so she can pop up again, yeah.. no thanks.
Personaly i hope Emma will nuke his memory of her and get the story finaly moving forward before this turns completely mental, the current ep was bad enough in that regard...

I agree with all of this. I did mention it before and i stand by it and let me know what you guys think about this.

DEV should've Ace upon his sleeves

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[Raziel_8]

They could say that they are brother and sister from another mother. I dont know . Its just feels weird . It doesnt feel the same you know.?

I mean, that just doesn't make much sense here. They are angels, there aren't any other gods or goddesses around as far as we know, neither do i think Emma has given birth to them in the traditional sense, so i honestly don't even view it as real incest.
Add to that, i want to drag Emma and Azel to hell... i really don't want them as LI's.
Raphael is kinds ok so far, althought the last update lets her look like a real morron.

Yeah I saw it is tagged as incest.But this doesnt erase the fact that it is just wrong.I already know what the direction is going to be that's why I'm trying to convince the dev make some things different

I'm not telling you what to like, we all have our kinks. But playing a game which is tagged as incest and then wanting to convince the dev to change it, because it's wrong in your opinion, is not a particular bright idea.
Either don't play a game if you really can't stand the idea of a certain kink is present, or reject the LI's you don't want.

 

[| Vee |]

i want to drag Emma and Azel to hell... i really don't want them as LI's.

I absolutely don't want to do anything strictly with EMMA (i might forgive Raphael in future but with Azel it won't be the case.). Considering Emma's power she didn't do shit. On top of it they keep denying torturing of MC and still believe that MC was doing Netflix n chill in Hell. I think they simply don't want to admit there mistake that they could've done things differently and save MC.

 

[lepoutanol]

I mean, that just doesn't make much sense here. They are angels, there aren't any other gods or goddesses around as far as we know, neither do i think Emma has given birth to them in the traditional sense, so i honestly don't even view it as real incest.
Add to that, i want to drag Emma and Azel to hell... i really don't want them as LI's.
Raphael is kinds ok so far, althought the last update lets her look like a real morron.


I'm not telling you what to like, we all have our kinks. But playing a game which is tagged as incest and then wanting to convince the dev to change it, because it's wrong in your opinion, is not a particular bright idea.
Either don't play a game if you really can't stand the idea of a certain kink is present, or reject the LI's you don't want.

Im not saying to change it.Im saying and trying to convince him to bring back Inessa, because I loved her and imo she was MC's true love. It seemed like that anyway. How the dev presented her.

 

[| Vee |]

Im not saying to change it.Im saying and trying to convince him to bring back Inessa, because I loved her and imo she was MC's true love. It seemed like that anyway. How the dev presented her.

In my opinion, the closest thing MC feels to love is to Luna. As for Inessa, he didn't even care if she died, he just felt remorse because her death was on his head.

 

[lepoutanol]

In my opinion, the closest thing MC feels to love is to Luna. As for Inessa, he didn't even care if she died, he just felt remorse because her death was on his head.

But isnt Luna just in his head?She isnt real!wtf haha
As for Inessa I dont think he didnt care, even tho the dev choosed for him to say those words.I really believe they were meant to be.But it ended before it even begin.That's why I'm doing whatever I can to make him see that he has done a big mistake.

 

[The D0n]

Yeah I saw it is tagged as incest.But this doesnt erase the fact that it is just wrong.I already know what the direction is going to be that's why I'm trying to convince the dev make some things different

I just have to say that comments like this annoy me to no end.

Not the discussion on story but the hubris that they have a better tale and believe they have a right to dictate how another's creative work should pan out. Why does anyone here think that they know a better story on an unfinished creation? Seriously the mind boggles.

 

[| Vee |]

But isnt Luna just in his head?She isnt real!wtf haha

I say this because when MC cut his veins, Luna was with him till he woke up and guess what both said to each other. I LOVE YOU. Now this might be just in a pure platonic sense, but that's the closest emotion what MC expressed to Luna than to others.
Unless if you have another example.

 

[lepoutanol]

I just have to say that comments like this annoy me to no end.

Not the discussion on story but the hubris that they have a better tale and believe they have a right to dictate how another's creative work should pan out. Why does anyone here think that they know a better story on an unfinished creation? Seriously the mind boggles.

Because I'm not the only that says this.And since we agree and saying similar stuff,then it seems like something is wrong with the direction and path the game goes.

 

[lepoutanol]

I say this because when MC cut his veins, Luna was with him till he woke up and guess what both said to each other. I LOVE YOU. Now this might be just in a pure platonic sense, but that's the closest emotion what MC expressed to Luna than to others.
Unless if you have another example.

They declared The L word to each other?I didnt remember that lol. But still,she is just on his mind.Other cant see her just like the other 2 characters ghost and the other dude.They are all on his head.Or am I wrong?lol

 

[The D0n]

Yeah I saw it is tagged as incest.But this doesnt erase the fact that it is just wrong.I already know what the direction is going to be that's why I'm trying to convince the dev make some things different

I thought I should chime in on why your assertion is not based on any knowledge. Pick up the Bible and read the Old testament, then get back to us on the Incest angle starting with Adam's rib.

Then factor in they are Angels and Devils and you may have a better understanding of why it works in this particular thread of thought and with this title.

You are probably a nice person who thinks you can make it better but without the insight of the topics used in the story and some idea of what the writer is actually aiming for ( no idea myself apart from the basics of the background ).

Anyway I thought I should clarify so you can understand it is not personal.

 

[The D0n]

Because I'm not the only that says this.And since we agree and saying similar stuff,then it seems like something is wrong with the direction and path the game goes.

Anecdotal evidence is just that. The proof is in the pudding and it appears most users like it from the resounding silence.

 

[| Vee |]

I agree with all of this. I did mention it before and i stand by it and let me know what you guys think about this.

I have an theory on personalities if you want you can read it.

 

[The D0n]

They declared The L word to each other?I didnt remember that lol. But still,she is just on his mind.Other cant see her just like the other 2 characters ghost and the other dude.They are all on his head.Or am I wrong?lol

On a certain path this does occur, and once again the story deals with super powered fabled beings. Who knows what story devices the writer will utilise..... fantasy has few limits as long as it works within the structure of the narrtive.

 

[lepoutanol]

Anecdotal evidence is just that. The proof is in the pudding and it appears most users like it from the resounding silence.

Well,you can ready some of the comments and you will understand that a lot of people think that the game is just not going or even is into the right direction

 

[lepoutanol]

I have an theory on personalities if you want you can read it.

I did read it

 

[| Vee |]

Well,you can ready some of the comments and you will understand that a lot of people think that the game is just not going or even is into the right direction

I think it's because we feel the story is all over the place or we simply don't have a bigger picture. Well, we'll see what the future holds.

 

[The D0n]

Well,you can ready some of the comments and you will understand that a lot of people think that the game is just not going or even is into the right direction

A bunch of people who aren't making the game have an opinion? Wow.... and I take back the "you may be a nice person" after that facepalm.

You are obviously to invested in your own self importance to even be bothered conceiving that it is not your work and you have no idea of the final story point.

Enjoy re-writing your fan fic.

 

[lepoutanol]

A bunch of people who aren't making the game have an opinion? Wow.... and I take back the "you may be a nice person" after that facepalm.

You are obviously to invested in your own self importance to even be bothered conceiving that it is not your work and you have no idea of the final story point.

Enjoy re-writing your fan fic.

oh sorry if I hurt your ego with the facepalm.wow indeed..... I just said my idea and you all came at me like swifting bullets

 

[nitkonikic]

They are the main LI's
You will maybe get Nyks at some point, thought the dev as well as the MC seems to have completely forgotten about her...

There's plenty of people already deserving MCs sword (metal one), dev should reaaaaally keep Nyks away for now.
Considering how the remainder of redemption arcs are going so far, Nyks would be...probably equally hilarious.

On 2nd though, he definitely should bring her back. I want to see what mental gymnastics he'll do to make her seem innocent and worthy of MCs sword (flesh one this time)