myuhinny

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Did that ugly ass monkey hit this one too?
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Is that why her eyes are crossed? The one girl looks like a trap. What's up with this dudes pants did someone melt his pants with a torch? Maybe you should remove the dick before putting the pants on.
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It shows one partial picture of a girl crying and the dialouge during it was talking about what happened that day. Tag was most likely added because of that one picture. If you look at personal trainer that has the rape tag but there is no rape but there is one picture and that one picture was what made them add the rape tag to that game.
 

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Is that why her eyes are crossed? The one girl looks like a trap. What's up with this dudes pants did someone melt his pants with a torch? Maybe you should remove the dick before putting the pants on.
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+MythicJoker+

It shows one partial picture of a girl crying and the dialouge during it was talking about what happened that day. Tag was most likely added because of that one picture. If you look at personal trainer that has the rape tag but there is no rape but there is one picture and that one picture was what made them add the rape tag to that game.
Alright, thanks for the explanation won't report the tag then..

As for that second spoiler that happens in Daz when you toggle the visibility of the genitals.. It sinks in..
Looks like the Dev needs to save the male character in two files.. One with gen's and one without..
 
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Chrathrard

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It's not NTR fellas because the abusive man is actually forcing them to attend clown college and if you don't stop him they'll become professional clowns, leaving you to wonder the earth, forever damned to a baffling type of employment
But...
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Bobby Boucher

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I'll wait a few updates before I play. Looks like the dev doesn't know what he wants in his story. Either say yes it will have ntr or no it will not. No need to get the hopes of either side up. Right now he's saying he will add it if he feels like it needs it. So no positive or negative answer either way.
Reminds me of a Dev who recently said he hated NTR, but was thinking of adding it as a path. Unless you’re some sort of masochist I don’t understand that way of thinking as a creator.
 

Trasher2018

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Reminds me of a Dev who recently said he hated NTR, but was thinking of adding it as a path. Unless you’re some sort of masochist I don’t understand that way of thinking as a creator.
Maybe for the "threat"?
I dont love NTR, but I like the threat it can cause. And then I am fine with the depiction of it - because I failed. And when it is not some kind of game over thing, but a consequence you have to "live" with.
That's why I get bored by harem so often, because you know you will get all the pussies you want, no matter what you do.

It is a shame that no or only a very few games try that approach - and I get why, because most ppl love or hate ntr and wont accept it as a Damocles sword in "their" game.

Maybe the Dev is trying something like that in a way here - dunno, havent played it, because the last preview image is not my thing. But I will have a look and I hope the player can avoid that stuff. That is just creepy and I dont like games that force you to stuff like that.
 
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Lotta people who haven't even played the game are eager to give their opinions on it. Big John is pretty much Eric from BB only about a million times worse as an individual. Eric's biggest sin was using his position as upper management to get his employee to sleep with him and then planned to convince her daughters to do the same. Big John is using a grieving widow to gain access to very young girls and it's stated that he has had them and MC do some... not so legal things with MC on camera while they were kids. So far there is nothing related to NTR, but it is clear that the main goal of this game will be to kick Big John out and make the girls your own harem, I guess. Christ, at least give it a chance if you're going to prattle on about how you think the dev should make their game. That being said, yeah some of the renders could use work, and Lucy's face is... uncanny at times. Other than that, a promising first entry. Not many devs are willing to tackle a heavy topic, so I'm interested to see where this is headed.
 

-CookieMonster666-

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Maybe for the "threat"?
I dont love NTR, but I like the threat it can cause. And then I am fine with the depiction of it - because I failed. And when it is not some kind of game over thing, but a consequence you have to "live" with.
Yes, I agree. I also have less of an issue with NTR than maybe others simply because in live action porn, you're not the one initiating the sexual encounter. There's an actor there doing it. There's no MC to be another version of me; there's just action on the screen. So if someone else is screwing in a porn game, I see very little difference from screwing by live actors. Maybe I'm just good at distancing myself from it? But IRL getting a lover stolen or learning they cheated hurts like hell, so I get that side of things too.
That's why I get bored by harem so often, because you know you will get all the pussies you want, no matter what you do.
If a harem game is written well, I don't have a problem with it. But I usually get attached to the characters and stories, so while I absolutely enjoy the lewd stuff I'm fine if a release doesn't have sex, if there's NTR, if someone is a drug addict, etc. I really enjoy following the characters' stories, even when they are tragic. (It's a love-hate thing for me in the case of a character getting killed or abused; I hate seeing it happen, but I love how those games can move you.)
It is a shame that no or only a very few games try that approach - and I get why, because most ppl love or hate ntr and wont accept it as a Damocles sword in "their" game.
Yeah; this can be one of the most divisive aspects of a game. I understand how it can be hard for folks, especially if it comes out of the blue.
Maybe the Dev is trying something like that in a way here - dunno, havent played it, because the last preview image is not my thing. But I will have a look and I hope the player can avoid that stuff. That is just creepy and I dont like games that force you to stuff like that.
You don't have to worry about the last preview image. The choices needed for that scene to take place should be very obvious.
 
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-CookieMonster666-

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Lotta people who haven't even played the game are eager to give their opinions on it. Big John is pretty much Eric from BB only about a million times worse as an individual. Eric's biggest sin was using his position as upper management to get his employee to sleep with him and then planned to convince her daughters to do the same. Big John is using a grieving widow to gain access to very young girls and it's stated that he has had them and MC do some... not so legal things with MC on camera while they were kids. So far there is nothing related to NTR, but it is clear that the main goal of this game will be to kick Big John out and make the girls your own harem, I guess. Christ, at least give it a chance if you're going to prattle on about how you think the dev should make their game. That being said, yeah some of the renders could use work, and Lucy's face is... uncanny at times. Other than that, a promising first entry. Not many devs are willing to tackle a heavy topic, so I'm interested to see where this is headed.
I never played Big Brother, so I don't have that frame of reference, although it sounds like you explained it well. I think this is pretty promising as well. While I would always concede that any creative work could use improvement, I personally didn't have a problem with renders of Lucy (or any of the girls). I found them each extremely cute. That said, I do worry a bit about the incredible speed of relationships with Lucy and Samantha. I hope the dev is able to avoid rushing things too much. It seems a lot of devs either go way too fast or way too slow. A happy medium would be great.
 
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Look-see

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figured id give this one a try and idk how to feel about it. The story is definitely dark but not overbearingly so that you cant get through it if you're mostly into vanilla stuff. the NTR is like mostly implied stuff. Big Jon uses mom but theres no scenes with the two of them. everything else i saw was mostly past MC remembering what he was forced to do with the girls. so it doesnt seem like big jon gets directly involved with the girls except the mother.

so it's got the NTR-ish vibes but so far thats about it. of course i would hope Big jon doesnt do anything with the mom now that he's older (hoping he has ED). but everything happens off screen.

As for the story itself? i mean for me it has this weird balance where its dark but i wanna see how it plays out and see what kind of revenge MC gets on Jon. which is weird cause usually i avoid games where family members are the victims. it's probably that MC was used as a tool for the abuse that makes me able to get through the game.

aside from that apparently NTR is a possibility based on choices so im hoping we can at least get a hint how to avoid those scenes.

all in all not bad. just dark themed
 

BTLD

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I played five minutes of the content and it's a hard pass for me. Too many cuckish vibes, plus the Dev doesn't seem to know whether he's coming or going. Don't understand the trend with new Devs that seem allergic to giving people straight answers. There shouldn't be multiple questions in every thread asking if there's going to be NTR or not. And you the Dev need to either say yes there are plans of that particular content or nip it in the bud right away like most sensible Devs tend to do.

No more "I hate that content but will consider...". Yes or no answers only, it'll save everyone time and energy.
well put
I asked 2 devs if there's going to be future kinks in the story that I might not enjoy ( others can and should , but it's just not for me) and the answers I got were
1. play the game and you will see ( the hell?I'm talking about fuuuuuture tags...FUUUUTURE)
2. I can't disclose the tags because it will give away the story (again the hell?)
3. based on patreon.................
so yea...I agree 110% say it from the get go...nobody wants to get invested in a game playing a few hours just to be cucked (if it's not your thing ...like myself) or other things like that...\
transparency from the beginning is the best thing you can do....
 

Naxos

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You can all see that NTR is not listed in the planned tags. I will say that chapter 2 can start with an NTR-ish scene, depending on what you did in chapter 1. NTR isn't my thing, so I doubt this game will have actual NTR content. I'm not going to say absolutely, because one scenario I have thought about for the late game is much closer to NTR than the scene in chapter 2.

The story is guiding me, not the other way around. If the story demands it, I might not be able to deny it, to my own dismay.
In other words...

"I'm going to add NTR but am too scared to straight up admit it."

I don't think I've ever read a more BS post on this thread. I don't like but I'll let the story guide me there. Utter crap. If you don't like it you won't let the story lead you anywhere near it, you'll take one look at the and go "hell no" lets go the other way. but whatever dude... The only person you're fooling is yourself.


You do you. Good luck with it.
 
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Krugger

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Isn't Sleep Sex Rape :unsure: I guess one form of Rape.
I'll pass on this one. Our society is so weird, all the rules about Incest in a fictional context, but no rules about Rape.
That also could include the Rape of a minor and or a family member.
It all comes down to money. Patreon is not putting rules on Incest because they have high moral standards it's because they lose money if they are seen as supporting incest, but it's ok to support rape and any non-consensual actions if the fictional charter is over 18. :cautious: Us Humans are all sorts of amazing and fuck up.
Rape - It is a aggressive sexual act that the individual penetrates the victim without his permission, violating or forcing (use of violence). In other ways, a sexual act committed to a victim forcing her to make the sexual act to the aggressor without her having a way to defend herself.

Sleep Sex - Sexual act that the individual commits on the victim while she is sleeping, this is also rape since the victim is unconscious (when there is penetration of the penis). In other cases, it is also called rape if the individual drugs the victim to sleep and then commits the sexual act while she is sleeping/unconscious. But there are specific cases, as long as the partner/friend allows it. (if they have any kind of relationship, boyfriends or friends) (yeah, there are women who like to have sex with their partner while they're sleeping);

Sexual harassment - Sexual act that the individual commits by touching the victim's sexual organ or private parts. For example, touching the woman's breasts, vagina, ass, in the case of men, their dick. There are also cases of harassment that the individual commits by calling the person something like ''hot/hot chicken/sexy bitch/sexy slut...etc'', something related teaser, when you tease a girl/woman. Yes, there are people who don't like to be harassed like that.

I don't see problems with games having these options, but as long as it is an option for the player. There are a lot of games around here where developers are afraid or don't like to put these options, because not every public likes it. But there are other games that have these options but it's something totally useless, like Long Live to Princess, where the MC sticks his finger in the girl's vagina and ass (sleep sex option), I wonder, what's the fun in that? (sorry for mentioning this game, at the moment I just remember it). There is also another game that contains rape content, as is the case of High-Rise Climb, where the MC wears an invisible outfit and rapes his co-worker at her house, something totally idiotic (sorry, but I thought it boring).

As I said, I don't see a certain problem, I mean in games, but as long as there are options to make the player avoid it or else have a tag so the player avoids wanting to try it. This is an adult game, rated +18. There are people who don't like it, or have traumas about it, and there are other people who like it. In Japan, there are many games with this type of content, that's back to the 2000s. I don't want to say that they only manufacture games of this type of content there, but I'm quoting examples. I'm not defending, just talking to be aware of what you're doing, if you want to do something stupid, don't do it, but if you want to do something for your audience, your audience knows what they're choosing. I've seen games here where there is underage sex through a patch, something absurd.. on the other hand, it was an optional.
 
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Bobby Boucher

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Maybe for the "threat"?
I dont love NTR, but I like the threat it can cause. And then I am fine with the depiction of it - because I failed. And when it is not some kind of game over thing, but a consequence you have to "live" with.
That's why I get bored by harem so often, because you know you will get all the pussies you want, no matter what you do.

It is a shame that no or only a very few games try that approach - and I get why, because most ppl love or hate ntr and wont accept it as a Damocles sword in "their" game.

Maybe the Dev is trying something like that in a way here - dunno, havent played it, because the last preview image is not my thing. But I will have a look and I hope the player can avoid that stuff. That is just creepy and I dont like games that force you to stuff like that.
Well according to the past memories in the game you were forced into a lot of sexual acts which is a no for me.

But when it comes to the “threat” topic I avoid games like that, so people have humiliation fetish's which is cool for them but why would I want to play a game that’s designed to make you look weak and like a fool. Maybe I’m small minded but all my fantasies involved me fucking hot women not watching other men fuck while I helplessly watch on.
 

zubitex

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In other words...

"I'm going to add NTR but am too scared to straight up admit it."

Well, it can be understandable seeing how people are crazy with NTR.

I really don't understand why tought. You play porn games in wich you kill, rape, blackmail and you play normal games in wich you kill hundreds, bomb cities, destroy everything but, no, the really important value is the NTR.

To me, this is a pure hypocrisy in a f.... up polarized world in wich you have to take posture from crazy radical thinking and its just a way to draw a line in wich people think they have to take position to show publicaly (i don't even know if all anti ntr warrior are sincere) that they are good or bad (as if this could be summarized in one aspect).

Unfortunatly the same mechanisms applies to serious political problems where positions are made as an instagram pic: take a simple and easily identified position (that you can understand without any thinking, all black or all white), make it look natural and spontaneous, make it look you genuinly and sincerly believe in it. And potentialy make money out of your deliberatly cleaving stuff.

Hypocrizy at its best.
 

delacroix2

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I don't care if the game is :"unnameable tag".
The important is the "planned tags" in all the damn games so we can decide.
 
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