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Vrijgeest

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There are some fields that should not be entered IMHO. Child-trauma is one. There is a very dark disturbing side of this story which many here dont seem to grasp. Of course the NTR bandwagon is going again and a load of crap that is.
I feel this is one line too much that has been crossed; you dont enjoy child-trauma.
 

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There are some fields that should not be entered IMHO. Child-trauma is one. There is a very dark disturbing side of this story which many here dont seem to grasp. Of course the NTR bandwagon is going again and a load of crap that is.
I feel this is one line too much that has been crossed; you dont enjoy child-trauma.
I feel like most people (although not all, I suppose) have a hard time with anything related to child trauma (of any type: abuse, trafficking, etc.). It's really hard to watch for a lot of us, but that doesn't necessarily mean the story isn't worth telling. And I definitely agree: NTR and childhood trauma aren't the same thing at all. The characters experienced that in the past, long before the MC ever considered anything more with them as a possibility.

That doesn't mean I expect everyone to like (or even be able to play) a game covering this. But this is definitely something other than NTR.
 

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I feel like most people (although not all, I suppose) have a hard time with anything related to child trauma (of any type: abuse, trafficking, etc.). It's really hard to watch for a lot of us, but that doesn't necessarily mean the story isn't worth telling. And I definitely agree: NTR and childhood trauma aren't the same thing at all. The characters experienced that in the past, long before the MC ever considered anything more with them as a possibility.

That doesn't mean I expect everyone to like (or even be able to play) a game covering this. But this is definitely something other than NTR.
if the stories good and its not so bad i cant handle it. i wont turn away from it just cause of the subject.

i mean look at law and order SVU. what is the shows premise anyone? in this case i dont enjoy the child trauma. but i am interested in how things play out.

REVENGE!!!:devilish:
 

Trasher2018

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But when it comes to the “threat” topic I avoid games like that, so people have humiliation fetish's which is cool for them but why would I want to play a game that’s designed to make you look weak and like a fool. Maybe I’m small minded but all my fantasies involved me fucking hot women not watching other men fuck while I helplessly watch on.
You can be the most alphaest alpha out there and still loose a girl. Maybe even because you are that strong alpha male.

For me its about the thrill and the joy to "fight" for the girl(s) I wann a fuck. Maybe one of the girls caught you cheating on her and then she will revenge fuck some other dude. I dont have to see that - maybe see how they both enter the bathroom or stuff like that - and maybe she tells you what she did or you see some evidence when they leave.

I dont want to be a cuck, but most games let you free fuck and that has no consequences. I dont have that in every game, but I wished that more games would try that. But I can even share - when the game is written well enough and I like all characters involved.

I hate these pure beta ntr games where you get humiliated - that is as boring as bad harem games ;)

In general there is not that many kinks I cant deal with in these games - urination and poop is probably the worst, I just dont get that. Everything else is ok. As an example, I am not a fan of fem dom in games with male MCs, but imho Karlsons's Gambit is a great game, because you can try to fight the "system" - sure, there will be humiliation, but you have at least some control how that might play out. Its not a fap game for me, but a fun game to play.
 
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Can we play as Big John? I prefer to play as him and not as the usual beta/shota/twink.
 
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Patreon doesn't lose money if they are seen supporting incest if they were seen supporting incest all that would happen would be that they would lose paypal who is the one who forced patreon to remove incest rape bestiality. All they would have to do is find a different provider to use instead.
Even Steam has allowed incest content. Patreon wouldnt lose anything, that excuse has fallen, its a decision Patreon did, no one forced them
 

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Glad is not sandbox, but your reluctancy to take a stance on the NTR situation gives me a bad feeling for the future of the game. I think you are just avoiding saying that it will have because you know you would lose players if you do, so i am going to avoid this game.

If you complete the game and there is no NTR, i might play it
 

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You can be the most alphaest alpha out there and still loose a girl. Maybe even because you are that strong alpha male.

For me its about the thrill and the joy to "fight" for the girl(s) I wann a fuck. Maybe one of the girls caught you cheating on her and then she will revenge fuck some other dude. I dont have to see that - maybe see how they both enter the bathroom or stuff like that - and maybe she tells you what she did or you see some evidence when they leave.

I dont want to be a cuck, but most games let you free fuck and that has no consequences. I dont have that in every game, but I wished that more games would try that. But I can even share - when the game is written well enough and I like all characters involved.

I hate these pure beta ntr games where you get humiliated - that is as boring as bad harem games ;)

In general there is not that many kinks I cant deal with in these games - urination and poop is probably the worst, I just dont get that. Everything else is ok. As an example, I am not a fan of fem dom in games with male MCs, but imho Karlsons's Gambit is a great game, because you can try to fight the "system" - sure, there will be humiliation, but you have at least some control how that might play out. Its not a fap game for me, but a fun game to play.
Being a alpha and losing a girl has nothing to do with enjoying being humiliated lol. Like course any can get cheated on, but actually preferring to get cheated on and getting off on it is two different things.

So far in this game the Mc doesn’t exhibit any of those traits however the “threat” is still to over bearing for some.

Also there’s correlation between Live porn and porn games at all, it’s apples and oranges folks.

Enjoy your game.
 

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I really don't understand why tought. You play porn games in wich you kill, rape, blackmail and you play normal games in wich you kill hundreds, bomb cities, destroy everything but, no, the really important value is the NTR.
Ever heard of "kinks and fetishes"? It just so happens that NTR is a turn off for vast majority of people (and for a good reason). On a lesser scale same thing can be said for rape and guro, many people are turned off by that too.

So what I don't understand is why people complain when someone is asking if certain thing is avoidable or not, it's almost as if they want to force their fetish on other people, sick fuckers (obviously if it is clearly stated in the first post if it's avoidable or not then I can understand complaints). Also NTR is something that I saw few times sneaked in the middle of development for some games. That's very great way to make people hate NTR even more (or for that matter any other "extreme" fetish).

To me, this is a pure hypocrisy in a f.... up polarized world in wich you have to take posture from crazy radical thinking and its just a way to draw a line in wich people think they have to take position to show publicaly (i don't even know if all anti ntr warrior are sincere) that they are good or bad (as if this could be summarized in one aspect).
It's a fetish and it's not only hated one, get over it. I bet you would also hate if someone tried to force you to play porn games that include one that is major turn off for you (I am looking at you guro)
 

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Without giving away spoilers, I want to say that some of this is covered in future installments. Hows and whys will be revealed and explored. Not everything is known by the MC, or even all of the other characters.

Also, the choices you make will have impacts on the ending of the game. Right now, depending on choices you make, there are four different end screens. Which did you get? Play again, make different choices and see how that changes. A major plot point changes depending on a choice you make, which way did your story go? Choices have benefits and detriments to them. Play how you want and be rewarded and penalized for those choice.

I just realized that I didn't give a save warning before the end, so I'll be posting a 0.01b soon, with that and some other changes.

As for the pacing, I'm expecting this to run for around seven days (chapters), so things had to get rolling. There will be more fireworks to come.
 
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Hmm, sounds interesting, so I'll play the game
About the NTR, if it have it like a bad ending, or its crystal clear avoidable, then I don't mind (i don't like NTR), I'll not keep pestering the dev about it, other than that, i think its fine, seems like a good idea, if executed right it will be an awesome game, so chill out friends
For the dev, i wish good luck, may you achieve success with your game (and i wish double patience, you know why hahaha)
 
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Honestly this has a ton of potential. Curious as to whether or not there wi be different routes in this game,like romance,abusive,etc. And if so how many. And is there any chance of a harem?
 
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Honestly this has a ton of potential. Curious as to whether or not there wi be different routes in this game,like romance,abusive,etc. And if so how many. And is there any chance of a harem?
There will be different paths depending on the choices you make, including a harem path. There will be three or four final endings. There are currently four end splash screens, depending on the choices you made, though I think one of them might not be possible for chapter 1 (the "true neutral" ending).
 
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