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That was the only big I saw. Quite good overall IMO.
I like the generally nicer atmosphere of this game as compared to others. It isn't a constant put down or abuse train.
The chastity cage at the end of the club was a letdown, bu even then the notes in the ending closure made it sound like it wouldn't be as nasty as could be.
 
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Ah you really had me with those developer notes about it being more about the MC's choice and their own discovery. But then immediate blackmail anyway. And of course your girlfriend NEEDS a nine inch cock because women aren't pleased unless it's their cervix that's getting fucked.
 

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How is this not incest? The title is very clear
It's not Incest because the title is saying he's a filial son who is willing to wear a dress for the sake of this father. It's not some pun about him being a good fuck for his father.
 

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That was the only big I saw. Quite good overall IMO.
I like the generally nicer atmosphere of this game as compared to others. It isn't a constant put down or abuse train.
The chastity cage at the end of the club was a letdown, bu even then the notes in the ending closure made it sound like it wouldn't be as nasty as could be.
I was fairly unhappy with the cage, as well. Here's to hoping it comes off in a timely manner, or I'm going to need new game suggestions.
 
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I cannot think of a single sissification game that does not put the MC into a cage at some point. A few, like Perverted Education and The Sissy Girlfriend Experiment, allow the MC to regain control of their key. In Secretary you eventually don't care about it (ceases to be a major problem once you can satisfy yourself anally) and in SQ Cruise Ship the MC is still stuck in his as of the current version. Not sure about The Making of a Slut, as I haven't played it in a while and so I don't know if the MC ever gets out of his in that game.
 

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I cannot think of a single sissification game that does not put the MC into a cage at some point. A few, like Perverted Education and The Sissy Girlfriend Experiment, allow the MC to regain control of their key. In Secretary you eventually don't care about it (ceases to be a major problem once you can satisfy yourself anally) and in SQ Cruise Ship the MC is still stuck in his as of the current version. Not sure about The Making of a Slut, as I haven't played it in a while and so I don't know if the MC ever gets out of his in that game.
Personally I'm not a fan of the cage. I understand it's need in the beginning to ween a sissy off it's dicklet. But, I don't know if it's wishful thinking or if it actually happens but, wearing the cage to reduce the size of the dicklet should be the sissies decision. Otherwise body modification to a partner against said partners will is considered (depending on the context and region) Sexual/Aggravated Assault: "Bodily injury which creates a substantial risk of death or which causes serious, permanent disfigurement, or protracted loss or impairment of the function of any bodily member or organ."
{I remember back in the 90s this mistress went to jail for branding her slave against her will. It was such a big thing at the time because it came out the mistress was also looking into castrating her in such a way that any stimulus on her genital area would cause pain.}
IF HOWEVER, the Sissy has not been tricked, manipulated or coerced into wearing cage for whatever reason, be it for the feeling, trill, fashion, prevention or a wish to actually shrink their dicklet then I'm ok with it.

But this is a game and well it's about peoples fantasies. I just wish there was one game that fulfilled MY fantasies.
 

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IF HOWEVER, the Sissy has not been tricked, manipulated or coerced into wearing cage for whatever reason, be it for the feeling, thrill, fashion, prevention or a wish to actually shrink their dicklet then I'm ok with it.
In Secretary the MC can choose to enroll in a trial (to earn $1000 or more) of a new cage. Otherwise, the MC either gets caged for being too aroused around his mistress (his work boss) or when his sissification progresses to the point where the mistress requires him to be caged.
 

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In Secretary the MC can choose to enroll in a trial (to earn $1000 or more) of a new cage. Otherwise, the MC either gets caged for being too aroused around his mistress (his work boss) or when his sissification progresses to the point where the mistress requires him to be caged.
Yes all AGAINST the MCs will. I'm not a fan of Secretary but it's better then noting. And it's certainly better then SQ Cruise with it's annoying EX-Girlfriend text.

IF you want another example of caging against the MC will, let's not forget In Perverted Education where the Cunt Ass Bitch Teacher brakes the key in the lock and instead of getting the MC out, She files the end off the snapped key permanently locking the MC the cage.

But all three game have nothing but Spinless MCs that could get beat and bullied by a century old deaf and blind grandma.
 

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But all three game have nothing but Spinless MCs that could get beat and bullied by a century old deaf and blind grandma.
Let's be fair here. The MC in Secretary isn't spineless. He's coerced. If he doesn't obey he gets terminated from his job with some drastic consequences. So the player has two options: embrace the sissification or resist and have it forced on you anyway. Oddly enough, the pure forced route in that game is a faster sissification than if you choose the pure voluntary route. I do a hybrid of forced/voluntary for maximum speed.

The MC in Perverted Education is also coerced. But unlike the mistress in Secretary (or the crew in SQ Cruise), both of which do actually care (in their own twisted way) about the MC's well-being, all of the adults around the MC in P.E. are truly sick, evil people who IRL would all go to jail for a very long time.

The Sissy Girlfriend Experiment is the only game (that I know of) in which the MC can rebel, ditch the evil bitch who started him on his sissy path, and then (if a player wants to) try to reverse some/all of the body changes that have happened to him. Personally, even doing the dominant route in that game I embrace the physical feminization. Seriously, what's the point of playing a sissy game if you're going to not embrace being feminine?
 
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Let's be fair here. The MC in Secretary isn't spineless. He's coerced. If he doesn't obey he gets terminated from his job with some drastic consequences. So the player has two options: embrace the sissification or resist and have it forced on you anyway. Oddly enough, the pure forced route in that game is a faster sissification than if you choose the pure voluntary route. I do a hybrid of forced/voluntary for maximum speed.

The MC in Perverted Education is also coerced. But unlike the mistress in Secretary (or the crew in SQ Cruise), both of which do actually care (in their own twisted way) about the MC's well-being, all of the adults around the MC in P.E. are truly sick, evil people who IRL would all go to jail for a very long time.

The Sissy Girlfriend Experiment is the only game (that I know of) in which the MC can rebel, ditch the evil bitch who started him on his sissy path, and then (if a player wants to) try to reverse some/all of the body changes than have happened to him. Personally, even doing the dominant route in that game I embrace the physical feminization. Seriously, what's the point of playing a sissy game if you're going to not embrace being feminine?
Look we agree on many a point. So I know my disagreeing with you will not offend you. {I HOPE}

Granted the MC in Secretary is coerced into signing a indentured servitude contract without you understanding what you signed *how is that legal?* and I hate that your just given one chance to run and even that chance is some stupid oblivion option. But even when you resist at any level your still forced to change by that Psycho boss who eventually rapes the MC EVEN when the MC is happily for all the change. Then there's a becoming a "slave" event. Granted it's a fucken sick corporate dystopia out of 1975s Rollerball where people and employee right have been lobbies out of existences. But to not even treat the MC as a human but a beast of burden... and there are still tons more elements of forced content. And what the fuck happened to the Hippocratic Oath the shrink took? It's Obvious that the treatment is NOT in the best interest of the MC. I don't know how the game will end but if it's some shitty "Bad Ending" my heart will be crushed. I want the "Hero" of the story to win.

In Perverted Education would you agree the coercion is Blackmail? And the Dev is telling us the MCs "Guardian" will not believe or think in the best interest of the MC if they ask for help? Probably as like you said EVERYONE around the MC is truly sick, evil and self serving. With the exception of Joshua I think... But to my other point I can't believe that if the MC sat down and told their Guardian that "The teacher is constantly singling me out, allowing bullies to bear and rob me and is in fact bullying me." the Guardian would not believe them or take their side? what kind of Guardian is that? especially if the MC reported what happened with the backpack. "I found a backpack in the hall and as I was looking to see who's it was I had the unfortunate luck of pulling out a pair of panties out of the bag just as the owner arrived. The Teacher would not even hear me out and said I needed to be punished through this emasculating trained by wearing panties and pay her not for me to be expelled." THAT is blackmailing, racketeering, sexual assault, sexual abuse and sexual coercion. How the MCs Guardian allowed that is beyond me. Even after the MC started all the tasks and experimentation. The Guardian should of sat the MC down and gotten the MCs side of the story instead of throwing out all their male cloth and believing that shit. Don't get me wrong I like playing, there are not enough sissy games out there to be picky it's just so unrealistic... yet possible with the right set of psychos.

Yes in Sissy Girlfriend Experiment you can get out of a relationship with that Evil Bitch but then you are thrust into a marriage with another possessive person. And again the whole relative throwing your stuff away without checking with you pisses me off.

Look I know their all just games but why do they all have to focus on masochistic sissies and not effeminate sissies? I guess most people find a happy sissy game boring.
 

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Look I know their all just games but why do they all have to focus on masochistic sissies and not effeminate sissies? I guess most people find a happy sissy game boring.
The bigger question is why every game assumes that the MC won't wish to become a sissy of their own free will. Sans any coercion. I think I can answer that. It's because in any good story there needs to an antagonist to pit the protagonist against. There needs to be some sort of conflict. So devs are opting for the easy, obvious solution and creating initially unwilling MCs. A truly unique game would have the MC want to be a sissy and then put up roadblocks (people or situations) that have to be overcome by the MC for the MC to achieve his goal of transformation. In short, the opposite of all the sissy games available so far. Perhaps this is too hard for any dev to try to tackle. I wouldn't think it'd be that hard to write, but it's kind of odd that no one has even tried. Yet.

To lobster-man, sorry for hijacking your thread. I do like your game. But it, too, is a variant of the MC-is-forced-into-transformation-due-to-fear (of someone or something) genre. In Secretary it's fear of job loss. In TGS it's fear of dad being killed by the mob. There are no games existent that don't employ fear (or outright force) as the fundamental driving motive for transformation.
 
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The bigger question is why every game assumes that the MC won't wish to become a sissy of their own free will. Sans any coercion.
I always figured there was at least a tiny assumption, on the developers part, that those story elements needed to be there to get some guys to play the game. They wouldn't possibly play a game about someone willingly becoming a sissy or trans. But if they were forced? Well, that'll hit all the buttons on their fantasies, right?
 
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Hey Mahavairocana. Two things - first, v0.1 saves are incompatible and will break the game at exactly that point.

Second, I’m aware of a rare separate bug that can freeze the game during a date with Susan. It’s fixed in the public version that is coming out this Sunday.

Sorry for the inconvenience - I hope if you start again on a v0.2 save that all goes well! :)
started the game over and everything was fine, thank you!
 
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To lobster-man, sorry for hijacking your thread. I do like your game. But it, too, is a variant of the MC-is-forced-into-transformation-due-to-fear (of someone or something) genre. In Secretary it's fear of job loss. In TGS it's fear of dad being killed by the mob. There are no games existent that don't employ fear (or outright force) as the fundamental driving motive for transformation.
No worries, hijack away! It’s a fascinating question. I think many people who enjoy sissification and feminization live their lives as regular masculine, heterosexual guys. I know I do! So it’s fun to fantasize about forces beyond your control pushing you out of your comfort zone.

But I think your proposal is fascinating. I’m imagining a game that you’re an 18 year old boy, and the early game is super vanilla, but one day you stumble upon reddit/r/sissies. And your disgusted. But intrigued. You start on your own journey of sissification. Your barriers are your own inhibitions (solved through baby steps and hypno), your mother and sister finding out, and your low access to sweet, sweet cash.

That could actually be a really fun game!!! Don’t tempt me :p
 

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Or the MC could discover GZone95 while looking for the source of a 3DCG video he found on PorNexus...

(Yep, I found F95 via finding vid captures posted to PornHub. Before that I hadn't known there were such things as porn games.)
 
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Or the MC could discover GZone95 while looking for the source of a 3DCG video he found on PorNexus...

(Yep, I found F95 via finding vid captures posted to PornHub. Before that I hadn't known there were such things as porn games.)
In my case it was a comment about ToA I found while browsing reddit (or possibly tumblr?) for various kinks of mine that got me intrigued and subsequently made me hunt down a reliable source for it.
 
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The bigger question is why every game assumes that the MC won't wish to become a sissy of their own free will. Sans any coercion. I think I can answer that. It's because in any good story there needs to an antagonist to pit the protagonist against. There needs to be some sort of conflict.
Yeah, I don't like involuntary feminization as well. Not to meantion that most games implement it in a very silly way, that both doesn't make any sense and completely criminal. I think i played only 1 game where actual criminals abduct MC and feminize him with coercion, and i didn't like it one bit, was too brutal and repulsive. Most devs resort to some overused tropes like blackmail, or higly dominant GF that MC can't leave simply because there isn't any other content in a game :/ Result is usually some very strange and nonsensical hybrid between voluntary and involuntary, where protagonist kinda doesn't resist too much, but on other hand is feminized in very degrading and certifiable way.
I think everyone writes like that for 2 reasons:
- they don't know any better, because almost every game haп same cheap plot gimmicks so they naturally adopt them as well, continuing vicious circle.
- it easier to write, because you can completely disregard questions of MC motivation and thoughts on the matter.
To write voluntary game, you'll need good writing skills, and lets admit, usually writing isn't stellar in sissy games. Its kinda amuzing that lacking writing skills in actual text game doesn't prevent them from getting recognition. Here goes my imo, don't throw stones at me, pls. In the games you mentioned so far, only Secretary can boast with good writing. Perverded Education is considered landmark for some reason, but it got some decend writing only when they hired writer that worked on cheerleader routes, all other writing is below average. The Sissy Girlfriend Experiment has good UI and tons of content, but actual sex scenes and descriptions are so insipid that reading them is a chore. The Making of a Slut is complete nadir of this genre, i can't think of any point that game does good. Horrible UI, inept writing, and to top it off with lack of vision, like dev doesn't know what to do with his game.

If you're looking for voluntary game well done, i can't recommend you enough Down and Out with Paris and Marion. Granted MC isn't very willing from the start, but is persuaded with teasing and guiding, instead of coercing and blackmail. Almost every fetish is avoidable and your route is result of your own actions.
 
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