Ren'Py Abandoned The Guy in Charge [v0.21] [totallyoklad9348]

[DrakoGhoul]

Yeah, I meant more so the intensity of it. For example if you don't help you mom do the dishes ONE time then the old man is immediately getting it in. Im sure there are other examples in better games but that was the one I played most recently where its basically 1 wrong choice and BAM! NTR. There is no build up or slow progression like with My Wife's a Star or Torrid Tales. Maybe Detective Life would be a better one, you have to make the one choice that opens up the flood gates but for something like Tyrant or BB its set up where its competitive grind. If you are not actively trying to win the girls then you are losing them because the other guys are constantly working on them behind the scenes. Like your points are always slowly draining away so if you neglect then you lose but in this you need to purposely GIVE your points away for anything to happen.


I am so sorry, that was just the freshest example of blatant in your face ntr that I could think of.

No problem I'll still give it a go. Also a point decay system would be interesting like in The Tyrant.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

Power Vacuum isn't a NTR game, it's there just for comedic game overs.

The second it happens it's reset and you make the other choice. It was never designed as NTR game, it's just a bit of fun.

yeah i just looked at the page. Though not exactly what i hoped, It still looks interesting though i hope the humor is as good as Personal Trainer.

 

[dartred]

some one said get karen below -40 for the last NTR scene. once i got -40 i got the devon and mom bathroom scene, but nothing happens. now i can't seem to drop my points below -40 to get the last scene. is there a missing / hidden scene or another trigger to unlock this cap?

 

[LewdGoogle]

People asking for walkthrough because they are so afraid of Devon cucking them lol. Devon the new Eric yeahhh.

 

[Ruodger]

Just to make it clear, the develop note says NTR, will this be imposed or choice? or rather avoidable?

 

[gun506]

Just to make it clear, the develop note says NTR, will this be imposed or choice? or rather avoidable?

You have to actively be a dick to get ntr, otherwise it never comes up.

 

[Champ-Champ]

if a game has NTR then the DEV will have an abundance of mainly NTR supporter's.
as Avaron1974 pointed out its the way it is with these games.
So whats in the next update hmmm oh thats easy it will be NTR then followed by more NTR in the update after that,
then a bit more NTR next update after that with some more NTR thrown in the update after that.
and if the DEV feels generous and sorry for the Vanilla players a little none NTR around update 5 maybe who know's.
I not being anti NTR by the way also not saying it's right or wronge just pointing out its just the way this tends to go with games that have NTR and do patreon votes.
facts of life.
Just sayin.

So here's to coining a new term. Avaron's Law!

 

[Power Broker]

As many said before this game has some problems in the way it is designed. The NTR-path is not accessible if you aren't actively doing everything to push the girls away from you. Devon is not really doing anything to get them, he isn't a challenge nor a danger, you don't compete against him. For a game called "The guy in charge" it lacks the guy in charge.

Even if you are on the NTR-path Devons behaviour is not one of a dominant guy in charge but of a beggar who begs to get into Karens pants, and the only reason she lets him is because she is alone and he is her last straw for some action. That's not sexy at all, that is almost pathetic.

If I could give some advice:

Completely change the game mechanics. Make Devon a guy who gets control over the two girls over time, not by begging but by taking charge. If you feel like it you can add blackmail or coercion, fine, I personally like some non-con, but most important: make Devon somebody who can be taken serious in the role of the alpha.

Make the main char somebody who competes against Devon, either in a friendly way (wingman-bro-path, sharing) or in a hostile way (cuckold, cheating). If he "wins" this competetion you can have the non-NTR-path, if he "loses" you have your two NTR-paths. In either way the game mechanics should reward the effort of the player and not force him to play bad on purpose to get Devon in charge.

Usually it's a good thing to have elements of attraction and repulsion in a relationship. Hate / love if you so want. For example make the girls love Devons confidence but hate some of the things he does to them. Make them enjoy the company of the main char but let them hate what he looks like. Or whatever. I personally don't like this boring storyline of "She is falling for him because he is so nice, looks good and has a big dick", no matter if it's the mc or another.

Make it so that at least on the NTR-path, getting on the good side of the girls, being nice to them and winning their favour isn't enough to get rid of Devon nor to stop him from sleeping with them. Improving relationships should be the main drive for every path but the outcome should differ (e.g. "Yes sweetie, I like you, but Devon has forbidden me to give you a kiss, so I can't. Be glad that he makes me walk around naked and lets you have a good look at me").

 

[Shirafune]

Uhh this update feels so short that it could be made in a week imo :\

 

[zlka112]

I love the mature chick, it is better if you make satisfying stories instead of short updates of laikn and put other characters in each story, but the main characters are in every story. A GOOD STORY AND A GOOD ANIMATION (PLAN C) Keeps You at the Top

 

[Avaron1974]

Completely change the game mechanics. Make Devon a guy who gets control over the two girls over time, not by begging but by taking charge. If you feel like it you can add blackmail or coercion, fine, I personally like some non-con, but most important: make Devon somebody who can be taken serious in the role of the alpha.

Make the main char somebody who competes against Devon, either in a friendly way (wingman-bro-path, sharing) or in a hostile way (cuckold, cheating). If he "wins" this competetion you can have the non-NTR-path, if he "loses" you have your two NTR-paths. In either way the game mechanics should reward the effort of the player and not force him to play bad on purpose to get Devon in charge.

Usually it's a good thing to have elements of attraction and repulsion in a relationship. Hate / love if you so want. For example make the girls love Devons confidence but hate some of the things he does to them. Make them enjoy the company of the main char but let them hate what he looks like. Or whatever. I personally don't like this boring storyline of "She is falling for him because he is so nice, looks good and has a big dick", no matter if it's the mc or another.

Make it so that at least on the NTR-path, getting on the good side of the girls, being nice to them and winning their favour isn't enough to get rid of Devon nor to stop him from sleeping with them. Improving relationships should be the main drive for every path but the outcome should differ (e.g. "Yes sweetie, I like you, but Devon has forbidden me to give you a kiss, so I can't. Be glad that he makes me walk around naked and lets you have a good look at me").

The problem there, and it's the problem with game like that in general, is it isn't the NTR that puts me off it's not being a fan of sloppy seconds.

If Devon is already with the girls then what interest do I have in them?

I'm not climbing into a bed my sibling has just climbed out of ... it's kinda gross.

I play these games to see what the dev can do. If he has to use other peoples ideas that change the plot in a major way then that isn't his story and i've got no interest in devs that can't back up their own ideas.

Your ideas would make it one a lot of people would avoid and only interest NTR fans. It limits the devs player base and changes his story completely.

With that being said, if you have all these ideas, ever thought of giving it a go yourself?

Not saying that in a snarky way just wondered if it's something you've ever given thought to.

I see a lot of people come up with a lot of ideas for some games and wonder why they don't try it themselves, they could probably make something decent.

Your ideas sound more hard NTR which is quite niche but you'd probably get a decent following if you tried.

 

[Harsh 007]

Yes, this version only features ntr. There is currently an ongoing poll on my patreon to determine what content will be featured in the next version.

BUT BRO IT'S STILL COMPLETELY AVOIDABLE RIGHT....? BECAUSE I HATE NTR....LIKE I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO SEE DEVON IF RELATIONSHIP WITH KAREN IS HIGH.....RIGHT...?

 

[magus448]

BUT BRO IT'S STILL COMPLETELY AVOIDABLE RIGHT....? BECAUSE I HATE NTR....LIKE I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO SEE DEVON IF RELATIONSHIP WITH KAREN IS HIGH.....RIGHT...?

Like in Tyrant as long as you keep your stats high no ntr. Though unlike Tyrant your stats don't decay every night.

 

[Harsh 007]

Like in Tyrant as long as you keep your stats high no ntr. Though unlike Tyrant your stats don't decay every night.

So as u know i hate ntr so there's no point for me to download this version just wait for the next....or should i download it....
just for save compatibility what do u say....?

 

[Power Broker]

If Devon is already with the girls then what interest do I have in them?

I don't identify with the main char, I just want to see and read a good story, which in case of NTR means I want to see the guy win who steals the girls.

I play these games to see what the dev can do. If he has to use other peoples ideas that change the plot in a major way then that isn't his story and i've got no interest in devs that can't back up their own ideas.

That's right. However, I think it's not wrong to point out the flaws and problems I see within the mechanics of the game and the narrative. It's called "The guy in charge" and promises two NTR-paths, but there is no guy in charge and NTR is reduced to stepping aside and pushing the girls towards the other guy.

Your ideas would make it one a lot of people would avoid and only interest NTR fans. It limits the devs player base and changes his story completely.

I just gave some advice how I think the story could work with the 3 paths the developer had in mind (non-NTR = winning against Devon and keeping the upper hand; sharing NTR = being friendly but let / have him in charge; cuckolding = being hostile and have him in charge).
I wouldn't write a story with that premise, I would stick to one path and flesh it out with different opportunities and challenges.

With that being said, if you have all these ideas, ever thought of giving it a go yourself?

Yes, not for NTR (or at least not with NTR as the main focus), but for my main kink of non-con power dynamics. However I suck at 3d-art and couldn't create the images that I would want to see in my game.

 

[RonnieX]

- This is one boring game no action ...

 

[Vojvoda]

- This is one boring game no action ...

you have one action to fuck mom and game over ! you can have lust and other things with her even 1000000 but when you fuck her it is game over ! i try and try and try to do more and to see what is new in this version !!!

 

[Astro2389]

Android version?

 

[iainmore]

Jezzo - yet another forum where the NTR haters talk shite and inflict in on the rest of us. As to the game itself well it needs a lot of work yet.

 

[xxTHESTYGIANxx]

Okay......so.....a new concept, a porn game that gives you a game over if you actually have sex. Is this serious? Finally get some action with the mom and a game over. I think im done with this game