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Ren'Py The Headmaster [v0.15.3.1 Public] [Altos and Herdone]
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I believe the game as one of the top ones here on F95 and still has a great potential to become even better as I wrote in my review of this game. But please, please, PLEASE do something about the look of that headmaster.
First of all, the way how the cock looks in relation to the remaining body is awful. I mean neither the texture nor the color matches the rest of the body. This looks like a very cheap photomontage. And this one is not even the worst example. (There are also similar issues with other characters and their body parts, but the headmaster is the MC and hence you see him all the time.)
Secondly, please do something about this baby face of him. He barely looks any older than his students. This is not the face of a 40+ year old man.
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First of all, the way how the cock looks in relation to the remaining body is awful. I mean neither the texture nor the color matches the rest of the body. This looks like a very cheap photomontage. And this one is not even the worst example. (There are also similar issues with other characters and their body parts, but the headmaster is the MC and hence you see him all the time.)
Secondly, please do something about this baby face of him. He barely looks any older than his students. This is not the face of a 40+ year old man.
While I agree that some models - especially the Headmaster's - leave things to be desired, what exactly are you proposing? That Altos suspends development of the game, goes back and revises the models and re-renders all of the existing art? Ah damn it all, we shouldn't give him any ideas! How do I delete my post? More importantly, how do I delete your post?
In all seriousness, Altos does make revisions and improvements to the models. If you don't believe me, compare Lucy or the twins from their first scenes in the game to how they look in the more recent releases. As for the Headmaster specificially, I think the reason the cock looks wonky is partially because Altos found either some mod or some workaround to get the foreskin to move semi-independently from the rest of the penis. Also, Playhome, the game that this game is rendered in is censored, if I recall correctly, so genitals are modded in, and look different as a result of that (if I am wrong, someone please correct me). I wouldn't expect any radical reworks, but I am sure models will continue to get better over the course of development.
More important news though, the landing page for the Patreon has been updated with a big blurb about and pictures from the game! Nothing that we haven't read or seen before (and it is all somewhat SFW) - but there is one little tid-bit of information at the bottom that might be of interest:
We should all make guesses as to when the beta will finally drop, and see who gets it the closest! My (proverbial) money is on May 6th.
- Dec 1, 2019
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Also one thing to remember about Illusion Games and its products is that they are marketed primarily with the customization of girls - the guys really don't have a lot of options between "young dude who always looks the same" and "creepy old man".
- Aug 2, 2017
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Yeah, it's PlayHome, they can't control that, unless they make the art in some other engine, and that is not really feasible. It is almost impossible to make a decent looking guy in these engines.
If there were most male mods in games, you probably wouldn't be playing this game.
- Jun 11, 2018
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And in most Illusion games you barely see the men. They really don't bother to do much more than a token effort.
Eh, it's never bothered me. I really like Illusion's female models, far more than Daz, personally, and I don't really care if the male models are a tad wonky. It's not what I'm here for.
It's also pretty typical for many visual novels and dating sims to begin with. It's common to have a male protagonist that you never actually see, only see rarely, or tend to just see partially/obscured (e.g. from behind or the side or something). Usually because they want to make the character function as a self-insert. So even when they do have a face and a design it's often pretty bland.
Yes, but he does neither look like 36, rather 16. Moreover (that is another thing which bothers me), it is not plausible to be a headmaster at the age of 36.
Sure, but in this game you see the MC nearly all the time. Moreover, even if you don't see the full body, you still see both the abdomen and the cock together in a POV blowjob or fuck scene and this is sufficient to be a turn-off. You see the MC's abdomen, the girl cunt and then a completely odd cock which matches neither the visual style of the male's figure nor the female's figure.
I don't know how the engine works, but I would have assumed that the creator of the game plugs its own character models and textures into it. And if not, because the engine comes with a certain collection of predefined characters, I would have asumed that the creators of the engine would do something about it, in particular as this would even improve the quality of a whole collection of games.
- Aug 2, 2017
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Dude, it is not plausible for a headmaster to do the things this one does to his students. Want realism? Turn the PC off and go out of your house.
- Dec 1, 2019
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Rare, certainly, but not impossible (may depend on where you live and how stuff is organized there). A friend of mine became headmaster of a school at 34 - he also had new paedagogic concepts on offer though as far as I know not really similar to those in this game. Certainly he made the media (not a huge story but some "light news" to fill pages) as the youngest in the state at that time but he isn't the only one. And even then there were others in the country (outside the state) who were even younger. So it certainly can happen, at least in my country - where it is difficult to get people for this kind of job anyway.
- Nov 18, 2017
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Realism put aside, it is clear in the intro that the main character is designated as headmaster not for his management skills (or whatever) but for his disciplinary methods (you may have noticed that the school owners are very interested seeing the girls being punished).
The main character himself wonders if he will fit the bill as headmaster.
The main character himself wonders if he will fit the bill as headmaster.
As long as we're talking about this, let me just throw in my humble opinion: I really like the game's focus on the women (Staff or Students) and that used as a (bullshit) justification for the headmaster. I'd like him to keep up the illusion. More for his own denial than for any pretense towards the outside. And yes, that means him being used as an active 'recipient' in actual sex scenes should be done very sparingly and only if it makes sense (Really enjoyed the ones with Miss Potts). And yes, his model and especially face certainly don't help things. Minor improvements over time would be nice, but I can see how you would rather spend your resources elsewhere. Especially if he stays on the giving rather than receiving side of things. But considering the more recent updates, that seems unlikely. Also I realize, that my opinion is probably an unpopular one.
When I was 40, I looked like I was still in my late 20's too, it's the beauty of not getting married and having kids. I still look younger than my younger sister.
Then you assume incorrectly. The Illusion engines were games, that happen to allow you to set up your own scenes. It was not designed to do this (make other games). People make mods for it, to do things that were never intended, but there is a limit, mostly what people are willing to make for it, and 2/3 - 3/4 of the stuff people make are for the women, not the men. No one really gives a flying fuck, what the guy looks like, it is all about cute girls.
Honey Select, Play Home, and the others like it, have 3 male archetypes, the young perv, the old perv, and the bland/basic 'every man', so that is what we have. No matter how much time you spend in the character creator, is almost impossible to make anything else, unless you use female parts, and then it won't move correctly.
There is almost nothing the devs can do about it. ESPECIALLY the shape of his dick. The games are here on this site, if you want to see, download one of them and play with it. Maybe you will have better luck than the rest of us.
- May 23, 2017
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On top of what TheDevian just said, These games are originally Japanese so everything was pixilated. It was mods, typically from the Hong Fire community, that decensored the game and made said penis. Because it wasn't part of the core programming, it probably can't change shades when you tinker with the skin tones.
I actually prefer the "plays it straight" aspect Headmaster takes. The game and the character. Most porn games have a "huh, huh, boobies" Beavis and Butthead attitude towards it. Where whatever thin veil of story they offer, usually none, is cloaked in "fuck it, time to strip off and make with the sex."
The Headmaster character's focus on "I'm doing this to help the girls. They're unfocused, they're unruly, they're letting themselves be distracted with (insert issues) and I can fix that with my methods" is fun, refreshing, and even makes a certain amount of sense within the universe. He punishes, then pleasures, to help the lesson, the correction, stick. Does it work that way in real life? No, or at least probably no, but this is a game! A story! Better, a porn story!
If he strips girls down to their bare bottoms, paddles them, then fingers them, and they then go on to improve ... that's funny. Sexy as well. Look at Debbie, or Cassandra. He is (in an obviously perverted way) helping them. They're getting closer to their goals, becoming better people. Yes it's porn, so it's very porn, but within the universe of the story, it plays kind of straight and works within the story. Which makes it fun. That's what stories are for; playing around with ideas and concepts.
Do we do what HM is doing in real life, even to college students? NO! But this is a story, a game. Arguing about reality is boring and off-topic. Here, in Headmaster, the headmaster himself plays it straight and that makes it interesting and compelling compared to the Beavis and Butthead approach that's obvious, droll, and dull.
I want the story to continue. And I hope it doesn't devolve down to "insert obvious sex scene" like most games do. Which is all most games do.
It's also why the graphics we have now, which are maybe "bare bones" don't bother me. Pretty graphics without the context of a story are boring and uninteresting. Headmaster has a good story that makes even graphics that aren't lavish and eye-popping more than enough to be interesting and sexy, because when you look at Rachael or Priti or Amy it's not just "naked girl" but characters we know. Rachel is inexperienced, innocent, and jealous. Priti is shy and repressed. Amy is wild and horny. Not just words, but a whole story that we've read making us feel them like people, like real characters.
The Headmaster character's focus on "I'm doing this to help the girls. They're unfocused, they're unruly, they're letting themselves be distracted with (insert issues) and I can fix that with my methods" is fun, refreshing, and even makes a certain amount of sense within the universe. He punishes, then pleasures, to help the lesson, the correction, stick. Does it work that way in real life? No, or at least probably no, but this is a game! A story! Better, a porn story!
If he strips girls down to their bare bottoms, paddles them, then fingers them, and they then go on to improve ... that's funny. Sexy as well. Look at Debbie, or Cassandra. He is (in an obviously perverted way) helping them. They're getting closer to their goals, becoming better people. Yes it's porn, so it's very porn, but within the universe of the story, it plays kind of straight and works within the story. Which makes it fun. That's what stories are for; playing around with ideas and concepts.
Do we do what HM is doing in real life, even to college students? NO! But this is a story, a game. Arguing about reality is boring and off-topic. Here, in Headmaster, the headmaster himself plays it straight and that makes it interesting and compelling compared to the Beavis and Butthead approach that's obvious, droll, and dull.
I want the story to continue. And I hope it doesn't devolve down to "insert obvious sex scene" like most games do. Which is all most games do.
It's also why the graphics we have now, which are maybe "bare bones" don't bother me. Pretty graphics without the context of a story are boring and uninteresting. Headmaster has a good story that makes even graphics that aren't lavish and eye-popping more than enough to be interesting and sexy, because when you look at Rachael or Priti or Amy it's not just "naked girl" but characters we know. Rachel is inexperienced, innocent, and jealous. Priti is shy and repressed. Amy is wild and horny. Not just words, but a whole story that we've read making us feel them like people, like real characters.
Actually, the stuff was there, just had a mosaic over it, IIRC. Same with most anime.
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I can't be sure, but I thought the female parts were there but the male parts had to be created by mods. Now, what I might be confusing are mods that change the penis size, 'cause I've seen some awful renders of male genitalia in some Illusion games I've played. Unfortunately, when checking for information on HongFire patches on websites I have saved, they try to send me to HF which of course doesn't exist anymore.
- Dec 1, 2019
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I agree with you both, the struggle of "helping the girls" is a nice touch and better than - I will take that comparison, run with it, and some day drop it off in another thread - the ""huh, huh, boobies" Beavis and Butthead attitude" even of grown males. Of course he isn't doing it for the girls, he never was (or only at the very beginning), and he slowly starts to realise. That is why I think, unlike Deaviannard, that the story needs to move on out of its internal logic. A facade slowly crumbling. It already is when you read his comments e. g. during soccer training. But slowly it needs to be, and never totally abandoned, to keep the magic of this game.