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Defenestrator.for.traitor

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Well we can agree to disagree, and I doubt many people would agree that is cheating,
Yeah let's agree to disagree but I doubt many people would agree with you about that.

This part here isn't up for debate at all, you can't cheat on someone you're not in an exclusive/committed relationship with, even more-so a casual one. She didn't cheat, and she definitely didn't cheat on someone she wasn't even with, doesn't even make sense. I agree wholeheartedly that she should have told the MC about him, that she was going to meet him, and tell him about her new relationship, and that she wouldn't be able to see him in that way ever again.
Yes and no, as you can see from the grammar mistakes, I could not explain it good enough there. I tried to say, we don't know what was the relationship between Simone and Steve, only Simone said it was not anything serious but Steve probably thought otherwise, if Simone was not clear about it and lead him to something what Simone was doing cheating on Steve.

Her in the car afterwards, shows that she was genuinely upset with herself, and had some remorse, she never once tried to berate the MC or turn the blame on him. That's usually what people who get defensive after being caught in a lie or caught cheating do.
Oh so just because she is not a manipulative bitch who tried to turn things around and she did not gaslighted MC, she is okay. Showing remorse did not change what she did, eh?

She made a mistake, one that isn't so egregious that it can't be forgiven, unless you have the emotional maturity of a kid I guess.
Oh here we go blaming others being kids because they have different opinions on things. I am glad you showed it this soon tbh.
 
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Oh here we go blaming others being kids because they have different opinions on things. I am glad you showed it this soon tbh.
I never called anyone a kid, I said the emotion maturity of a kid, which quite frankly is a lot of adults these days. :ROFLMAO:

Sorry if my post offended you, or made you feel I was insulting you, it wasn't my intention. I'm down to stop the topic here though, as it's just a matter of opinion and going in circles at the end of the day.

if Simone was not clear about it and lead him to something what Simone was doing cheating on Steve.
This is the last time I'll mention this one, but no matter how many times it's said, it's still not true. You don't enter a committed relationship, until both parties have come to an understanding on the matter, which is something Steve should have initiated if that is what he wanted out of the relationship.
 

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I never called anyone a kid, I said the emotion maturity of a kid, which quite frankly is a lot of adults these days. :ROFLMAO:

Sorry if my post offended you, or made you feel I was insulting you, it wasn't my intention. I'm down to stop the topic here though, as it's just a matter of opinion and going in circles at the end of the day.
I have not insulted or offended don't worry. I may mistook what you said there, sorry if I come in hot. Sleep deprivation does that to people. ;):) Agreed on that, matter of opinion. I should have said IMO within the posts probably.

This is the last time I'll mention this one, but no matter how many times it's said, it's still not true. You don't enter a committed relationship, until both parties have come to an understanding on the matter, which is something Steve should have initiated if that is what he wanted out of the relationship.
Yeah, I kinda am saying that too. If they are not committed there is no cheating. Maybe we can discuss she should have cared more about her childhood friend's emotions but it's all arbitrary. What I am saying though, clearly Steve thinks there is more between them. I also don't believe Simone's explanation. So I am saying they may have a more serious relationship, if so then she was cheating on him too. I should make this clear, there is nothing concrete, probably it's not even the case, I just think this maybe the case and if so, she is cheating on him too. Anyways, I spent more time on Simone than I am willing to do, so Lane is pretty cool huh? ;):LOL:
 
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I have not insulted or offended don't worry. I may mistook what you said there, sorry if I come in hot. Sleep deprivation does that to people. ;):) Agreed on that, matter of opinion. I should have said IMO within the posts probably.


Yeah, I kinda am saying that too. If they are not committed there is no cheating. Maybe we can discuss she should have cared more about her childhood friend's emotions but it's all arbitrary. What I am saying though, clearly Steve thinks there is more between them. I also don't believe Simone's explanation. So I am saying they may have a more serious relationship, if so then she was cheating on him too. I should make this clear, there is nothing concrete, probably it's not even the case, I just think this maybe the case and if so, she is cheating on him too. Anyways, I spent more time on Simone than I am willing to do, so Lane is pretty cool huh? ;):LOL:
Yeah, Lane is cool, and is my favorite LI. Seok is another whom I love, and must be protected at all cost.

The only ones I'm not really a fan of are Lita and her GF whose name escapes me at the moment. Also, Sloane, not because I think she's bad, she just creeps me out a bit. Simone I'm kind of Luke warm on, I don't like or dislike her, but I don't find her particularly attractive, nor does her personality shine like some of the other girls, granted we didn't get to see her much.

Everyone else I like at least a little. I would say Lane, Seok, and Mary are the ones who shine the brightest for me.
 
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Yeah, Lane is cool, and is my favorite LI. Seok is another whom I love, and must be protected at all cost. The only ones I'm not really a fan of are Lita and her GF whose name escapes me at the moment. Also, Sloane, not because I think she's bad, she just creeps me out a bit. Simone I'm kind of Luke warm on, I don't like or dislike her, but I don't find her particularly attractive, nor does her personality shine like some of the other girls, granted we didn't get to see her much.

Everyone else I like at least a little. I would say Lane, Seok, and Mary are the ones who shine the brightest for me.
He bro I have had this game downloaded for ages but have been too cautious to try it could you answer a few questions about it for me?

Is it more a porn game or a serious AVN?
And do we have a decent number of choices or forced sex scenes.
Also, I see you guys talking about casual hookups is it not possible to pick a girl and be in a serious relationship?
 

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He bro I have had this game downloaded for ages but have been too cautious to try it could you answer a few questions about it for me?

Is it more a porn game or a serious AVN?
And do we have a decent number of choices or forced sex scenes.
Also, I see you guys talking about casual hookups is it not possible to pick a girl and be in a serious relationship?
It's a good mix of both, although we're not really sure on the plot at this point there's a decent amount of sex and story.

Plenty of choices that matter, I don't think anything was forced but it's been a little while since I played it. You can focus on one girly if you so choose. Decent amount of content though, you should definitely give it a shot.
 

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Is it more a porn game or a serious AVN?
It's more serious than porn, but it has a pretty nice balance. The story itself has had some dark themes here and there, but hasn't actually dived deep into anything just yet, that may change though. So far it's been fairly chill and fun.

And do we have a decent number of choices or forced sex scenes.
There's a decent amount of choices from what I remember, and only the first sex scene of the game is forced. It's with his then GF, and it kind of sets up the tone of the story and leads into introducing the main cast.

Also, I see you guys talking about casual hookups is it not possible to pick a girl and be in a serious relationship?
I won't spoil much, but yes it will be possible to enter a serious relationship at some point with any of the main LI's at least, and there are even a couple of choices for some characters already that seem to be heading in that direction. The plot of the game lends itself to have some casual/not serious hookups with most of the female cast, without any consequences for the time being.
 
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It's a good mix of both, although we're not really sure on the plot at this point there's a decent amount of sex and story.

Plenty of choices that matter, I don't think anything was forced but it's been a little while since I played it. You can focus on one girly if you so choose. Decent amount of content though, you should definitely give it a shot.
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It's more serious than porn, but it has a pretty nice balance. The story itself has had some dark theme here and there, but hasn't actually dived deep into anything just yet, that may change though. So far it's been fairly chill and fun.



There's a decent amount of choices from what I remember, and only the first sex scene of the game is forced. It's with his then GF, and it kind of sets up the tone of the story and leads into introducing the main cast.



I won't spoil much, but yes it will be possible to enter a serious relationship at some point with any of the main LI's at least, and there are even a couple of choices for some characters already that seem to be heading in that direction. The plot of the game itself lends itself to have some casual/not serious hookups with most of the female cast, without any consequences for the time being.
Thank you both for the info and advice.
It sounds like I will like the game even if I'm not a big fan of casual sex in these games.
 

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He bro I have had this game downloaded for ages but have been too cautious to try it could you answer a few questions about it for me?

Is it more a porn game or a serious AVN?
And do we have a decent number of choices or forced sex scenes.
Also, I see you guys talking about casual hookups is it not possible to pick a girl and be in a serious relationship?
This is weird but it's both at the same time. Iirc there is 5 or 6 sex scenes but none of them feels out of place. There is only one forced sex scene which is with the ex of MC.

Everyone else I like at least a little. I would say Lane, Seok, and Mary are the ones who shine the brightest for me.
Same for me. Also there are some side characters I like, i.e. Miriam the car repair lady. I don't like Lita, Zoe(gf of Lita), Simone, Caitlyn's mother and whoever it is, Seok's father.
 
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Renders, animations are awesome. Storyline is also very good though I am yet to understand what's the main plot. Kinda too short so far. Overall I really liked it. Thanks for the recommendation guys.
you know the more I think about it you probably are right about Lita I just need to replay the game since I forgot alot about her. I think my hatred for her GF Zoe just made me feel bad for her, since all I do recall it did feel like to me Zoe is a bad influence and makes her worst as a person and wouldn't surprise me if Zoe ends up being abusive towards her later. That and all I can remember is Lita getting into a fight with Zoe because she was being mean to Seok.

But ultimately at the end of the day I think you are right and she isn't much better but Zoe clouded my judgement of her since all I can recall is I despise Zoe lol. I do think if she gets away from Zoe tho there is a chance she could be redeemable and change into a better person unless there is something I totally forgot about her character which I probably did since I do need to replay this lol.
 

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Yeah let's agree to disagree but I doubt many people would agree with you about that.
We can have a vote maybe? In my capacity as a serious disliker of NTR I vote "not cheating". (I agree about "badly handled situation of course)

Is it more a porn game or a serious AVN?
And do we have a decent number of choices or forced sex scenes.
Also, I see you guys talking about casual hookups is it not possible to pick a girl and be in a serious relationship?
As others have said, it is a mix - as far as we know. One forced scene. And as of now, the seriousness is debatable, one girl is certainly serious but the whole scene set out is around some club/pub where everybody knows everyone and yes, things start out casual (which makes sense in this setting, except for car repair lady which isn't a part of the scene and has in my eyes the worst intro so far) but there is nothing prohibiting it to turn serious over time, which may depend on the choices you make. Choices give and take points, the amount of importance is yet not clear, however you cannot get all girls to max at the same time - which again, since this game is very much in progress may or may not mean you will lock yourself out of options by necessity sooner or later)
 
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Defenestrator.for.traitor

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you know the more I think about it you probably are right about Lita I just need to replay the game since I forgot alot about her. I think my hatred for her GF Zoe just made me feel bad for her, since all I do recall it did feel like to me Zoe is a bad influence and makes her worst as a person and wouldn't surprise me if Zoe ends up being abusive towards her later. That and all I can remember is Lita getting into a fight with Zoe because she was being mean to Seok.

But ultimately at the end of the day I think you are right and she isn't much better but Zoe clouded my judgement of her since all I can recall is I despise Zoe lol. I do think if she gets away from Zoe tho there is a chance she could be redeemable and change into a better person unless there is something I totally forgot about her character which I probably did since I do need to replay this lol.
She is one of the LI so I think they will be separated. If I have to compare her to Zoe then she is an angel tbh. She is not rude to Seok. She is in a difficult situation and handling it rather badly but there is no indication she is a bad person unlike Zoe. What I don't like about her is her general attitude towards people. I have seen people like her irl and tbh I project them onto her. I still don't like her but still, she is not a Zoe.

We can have a vote maybe? In my capacity as a serious disliker of NTR I vote "not cheating". (I agree about "badly handled situation of course)
I don't have that power but it is an idea. Let me be clear for future references, I don't think she fucked Steve while she was with MC. I don't know whether or not there are others. I think she cheated on MC on emotional level. On top of that, I don't think whatever is going on with Steve is not as innocent as she claimed and she was lying about it. IMO.
 

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I don't have that power but it is an idea. Let me be clear for future references, I don't think she fucked Steve while she was with MC. I don't know whether or not there are others. I think she cheated on MC on emotional level. On top of that, I don't think whatever is going on with Steve is not as innocent as she claimed and she was lying about it. IMO.
Oh, that much was clear to me, and I just see it as a confrontation of ideas and opinions. In my opinion though it is as innocent. Not necessarily from how she handled it - that would not convince me - but the way it was presented in the game makes me think that she really is serious about MC, no side gigs. But neither of us of course will know until we get to later parts of the story, which may take a while with the update pace we have. ;)
 

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Oh, that much was clear to me, and I just see it as a confrontation of ideas and opinions. In my opinion though it is as innocent. Not necessarily from how she handled it - that would not convince me - but the way it was presented in the game makes me think that she really is serious about MC, no side gigs. But neither of us of course will know until we get to later parts of the story, which may take a while with the update pace we have. ;)
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I haven't talked to him in months. A clear lie, if she did not talk to Steve, he could not have known when she was arriving.
He was in my group of high school friends. Another lie if we gonna believe what she said afterwards. Which one is it, a dear childhood friend or one of the high school guys?
Babe. So she calls babe to everyone, eh?
Oh, Steve? She is responding like she don't even remember Steve.

Steve saying babe so casually it's revolting tbh. One scene and every single thing she said here is a lie. How can we be sure next talk was genuine and not lies wrapped in truth to soften the damage? Like you said we don't know what is the real truth. But I have every right to not believe what she said.


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Again, she never cheated on Steve, they were never in anything more than a casual relationship. You can't cheat on someone you're not in a committed relationship with/exclusive to.
a bit late on my reply I see you already had a bit of a discussion about this. I just wanted to say I thought they were more than casual cause the way she said she wanted to tell him in person and the way the scene played out felt like it was more than something casual to me. That and well cause they are childhood friends it's easy for me personally to believe at the very least they were more than casual on the emotional level and I only ever thought she cheated on a emotional level not physical.

But if I was wrong I was wrong like I said in one of my other post I do need to replay this game so could be I overlooked something when I looked at the scene again quickly. Just wanted to add my 2 cents and why I thought what I thought. Don't really want to go in a circle if she did or didn't cause it's easy to have a different opinion on this subject. We need to wait till we get more info in the game anyhow cause I am using my personal interpretation a little bit here any how cause as far as I know there was no clear answer if they were casual or not.
 

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a bit late on my reply I see you already had a bit of a discussion about this. I just wanted to say I thought they were more than casual cause the way she said she wanted to tell him in person and the way the scene played out felt like it was more than something casual to me. That and well cause they are childhood friends it's easy for me personally to believe at the very least they were more than casual on the emotional level and I only ever thought she cheated on a emotional level not physical.

But if I was wrong I was wrong like I said in one of my other post I do need to replay this game so could be I overlooked something when I looked at the scene again quickly. Just wanted to add my 2 cents and why I thought what I thought. Don't really want to go in a circle if she did or didn't cause it's easy to have a different opinion on this subject. We need to wait till we get more info in the game anyhow cause I am using my personal interpretation a little bit here any how cause as far as I know there was no clear answer if they were casual or not.
I definitely don't think you are wrong. I think she is lying to MC about Steve and like you said doing it in person kinda indicates that. Still we cannot know without dev reveal more and as far as we concern they are not going to put that in their story for NTR reasons even though it does not fit into their stories.
 

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I'll be honest, I'm not 100% sure what will be revealed in the future with Simone, but the reason I don't think she cheated on him, even emotionally, is for two simple reasons. This may be kind of 'meta', but this isn't an NTR game, and Simone has love points, which indicates she is a love interest on some level. It's as simple as that in my opinion, but there's also the second reason. The fact that, despite her lying to the MC, and keeping something pretty important from him, you can tell she has genuine feelings for the MC, and didn't try the push blame or berate the MC, which is very common defensive mechanism(s) for people who are caught cheating.

She IS a liar, she DID make a big mistake that she definitely now regrets, and she is less trustworthy for it. I don't like her, and won't be pursing her path anyways, but I do think she'll have a redemption arc when she is finally reintroduced into the story, otherwise almost no one would be interested in her, and there would be no point in her being a love interest to begin with.

Anyways, screw Simone, my eyes are only on Lane, Seok, and Mary for the time being. :love:
 

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There will be no NTR in the game. This is the only thing I'll respond to on here whenever someone brings this up because you all don't seem to realize just how much damage this can do to a game when you even mutter or discuss it here.

I know how much damage it will do if I add it. We aren't and never planned to. End of story.
 
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There will be no NTR in the game. This is the only thing I'll respond to on here whenever someone brings this up because you all don't seem to realize just how much damage this can do to a game when you even mutter or discuss it here.

I know how much damage it will do if I add it. We aren't and never planned to. End of story.
:unsure: MCs girlfiend cheated with some steve i think therealready is some level of ntr....hopefully we could tell her to fuck of and now we can only pray that she will never come back...
 
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