VN Ren'Py The Higher Society Illustrated [v0.23] [xxerikxx]

[SlapE]

Going to give this game a try, though from reading the thread and reviews there seem to be more than a couple of things that'll annoy/bother me. Doesn't seem to be absolute red flags though, and since I know a lot of people have a tendency to exaggerate one way or the other, I'll give it a go.

Couple of things that if possible I'd like to have clarified now though are:

1 - The daughter character is the actual daughter of the MC's wife, and she had it when she was 18yo (hoe alert). That correct? If so, was the (now) wife married to the daughter's biological father back then?

2 - There seem to be a number of 18 and 19yo characters in the game, most (if not all) of which the MC can have fun with. From what I've read, none of those characters are virgins. Is that correct? If so, does the game allow for different wayy to interact with them, or does the game force you into being something specific with / to them (like being all loving as opposed to treating them as if in a master / slave relationship or just simply outright treating them as objects and / or playthings)?

3 - Some "very questionable" situations happen that give very heavy NTR-vibes. I don't know when those take place, but it could be that it happened in the earlier stages of the game and those events have since been changed or given a non-vague resolution to them. So my question is: do those "bad vibe" events have proper (hopefully satisfying) resolutions to them, without leaving much to vague ponderings?

I won't bother answering #2, cause the relationships with many of the characters are still early in development, so I would just be speculating.

However..

1 - I believe it was her boyfriend at the time IIRC. (though I could be wrong, I play so many of these they start to blend together) My memory is crap so I don't remember if she ended up getting married back then or not. Also, getting pregnant as a teen doesn't make you a hoe if you are dating the person, just irresponsible.

3 - There's no actual NTR in the game unless you count girls (I personally don't), the "NTR Vibes" scenes are with the slimy director of the film the MC's working on, and it has a VERY satisfying resolution in my opinion.

 

[Yngling]

1 - The daughter character is the actual daughter of the MC's wife, and she had it when she was 18yo (possible hoe alert). That correct? If so, was the (now) wife married to the daughter's biological father back then?

Don't know how to answer that, except that it was a long time ago. At present the MC's wife is definitely not a hoe.

Honestly I think it's more of a ploy not to have real incest, even though it does feel like incest (in my opinion)

2 - There seem to be a number of 18 and 19yo characters in the game, most (if not all) of which the MC can have fun with. From what I've read, none of those characters are virgins. Is that correct? If so, does the game allow for different ways to interact with them, or does the game force you into being something specific with / to them (like being all loving as opposed to treating them as if in a master / slave relationship or just simply outright treating them as objects and / or playthings)?

I think both the daughter and her best friend are virgins, if I recall correctly.

You will develop a master/slave relationship with your daughter but mostly it is a loving, romantic relationship. There are no mindless objects / playthings / cocksleeves in the game and I don't think there will be. It's not that kind of game, if focusses on a kind of consensual sexual "slavery" that borders on prostitution (not with the daughter character, but with side characters whose roles are made very clear) with consensual BDSM "play" but nothing too heavy.

3 - Some "very questionable" situations happen that give very heavy NTR-vibes. I don't know when those take place, but it could be that it happened in the earlier stages of the game and those events have since been changed or given a non-vague resolution to them. So my question is: do those "bad vibe" events have proper (hopefully satisfying) resolutions to them, without leaving much to vague ponderings?

There are some NTR vibes, but the MC will overcome all challenges, nothing bad happens with any of the major LI's. there is a lesbian scene between the daughter and a friend which some people consider NTR but I disagree. There is also a form of prostitution with above mentioned side characters.

 

[Ka1tzer]

So, I've given the game a try and must say that, so far, I quite like the storytelling. A lot more than I thought I would, to be honest. As of now, I'm past the point of the shooting in Provo and have only recently gotten a downtown office. Really hope that the animations were better though, that is one aspect that really holds the game back imo. That and some weirdly jarring transitions from scene to scene (as well mid-scene, in some cases).

One question that I have is about the arrangement that the MC has with his wife. He is allowed to sleep with other women, as I understand it, but I've seen no indication or mention of how the other side of the coin is. Is Violet, the wife, allowed to sleep with other men (or women, since it's been mentioned that she was/is once into that), or is she fully faithful to the MC?

I tried searching in the thread for this information but didn't find a straight up answer. Perhaps I failed in my search and it's there somewhere, idk.

 

[SlapE]

So, I've given the game a try and must say that, so far, I quite like the storytelling. A lot more than I thought I would, to be honest. As of now, I'm past the point of the shooting in Provo and have only recently gotten a downtown office. Really hope that the animations were better though, that is one aspect that really holds the game back imo. That and some weirdly jarring transitions from scene to scene (as well mid-scene, in some cases).

One question that I have is about the arrangement that the MC has with his wife. He is allowed to sleep with other women, as I understand it, but I've seen no indication or mention of how the other side of the coin is. Is Violet, the wife, allowed to sleep with other men (or women, since it's been mentioned that she was/is once into that), or is she fully faithful to the MC?

I tried searching in the thread for this information but didn't find a straight up answer. Perhaps I failed in my search and it's there somewhere, idk.

Well I'm sure that her having threesomes with the MC and another woman are coming at some point, hell they might already have in the text based version of the game.

With another man though, I believe much further down the road there is gonna be an avoidable MMF scene or scenes, but it wasn't specified with which character, though probably won't be Violet. Considering Angelina is joining THS, I'd assume the avoidable MMF scene(s) would be with her.

 

[Ka1tzer]

Well I'm sure that her having threesomes with the MC and another woman are coming at some point, hell they might already have in the text based version of the game.

With another man though, I believe much further down the road there is gonna be an avoidable MMF scene or scenes, but it wasn't specified with which character, though probably won't be Violet. Considering Angelina is joining THS, I'd assume the avoidable MMF scene(s) would be with her.

I meant, at the point if the story where I'm at now (and possibly into the future) violet travels a lot to Philadelphia. She has given her consent and has an arrangement with the MC in which he is allowed to sleep with other women. What I want to know is if she is allowed to sleep with other people as well since she also travels a lot. Is there any mention of it?

As of now, I'm assuming she doesn't sleep with anyone other than the MC (and if she did it'd be in a threesome situation, with the MC present). But those are only assumptions of mine. Is there anything that has been established in the story in regards to how her end of the arrangement she has with the MC works?

 

[SlapE]

I meant, at the point if the story where I'm at now (and possibly into the future) violet travels a lot to Philadelphia. She has given her consent and has an arrangement with the MC in which he is allowed to sleep with other women. What I want to know is if she is allowed to sleep with other people as well since she also travels a lot. Is there any mention of it?

As of now, I'm assuming she doesn't sleep with anyone other than the MC (and if she did it'd be in a threesome situation, with the MC present). But those are only assumptions of mine. Is there anything that has been established in the story in regards to how her end of the arrangement she has with the MC works?

I don't recall it being mentioned, but as far as I know, it's a one sided arrangement and she won't be sleeping with anyone without the husband present, and I doubt she'll even be a part of any MMF threesomes either. (Who knows about the latter tho)

 

[hanumania]

I think this is the first AVN I've played that describes the scene in 3rd person. This is an interesting choice, as it begs the question of who the narrator is and if all of the action is happening in the past tense. Some would say it "breaks the 4th wall". Is there a reason why this choice was made, something relevant to the story maybe? does it switch to 1st person?

 

[Yngling]

Considering Angelina is joining THS, I'd assume the avoidable MMF scene(s) would be with her.

My bet would be with Sophia in the VIP club.

 

[SlapE]

My bet would be with Sophia in the VIP club.

Hmm maybe, but she's like way more into girls, so I feel like she's gonna be wanting MFF threesomes most likely. I feel like Angelina makes more sense, since she is the MC's sub and wants to be obedient and keep him happy, so if the MC wanted her to take part in a threesome she would definitely do it. It could go either way, but I'm way more sure that it won't be Violet, she's the least likely IMO.

 

[Yngling]

Hmm maybe, but she's like way more into girls, so I feel like she's gonna be wanting MFF threesomes most likely. I feel like Angelina makes more sense, since she is the MC's sub and wants to be obedient and keep him happy, so if the MC wanted her to take part in a threesome she would definitely do it. It could go either way, but I'm way more sure that it won't be Violet, she's the least likely IMO.

Or it can also simply be one of the THS "prostitutes".

Regarding Angelina, the MC made it pretty clear that she was not to be touched by another (male) Master during her "final assessment" for THS. I don't really see a reason for him to change his mind on this topic.

 

[SlapE]

Or it can also simply be one of the THS "prostitutes".

Regarding Angelina, the MC made it pretty clear that she was not to be touched by another (male) Master during her "final assessment" for THS. I don't really see a reason for him to change his mind on this topic.

Well yeah, but that was because he would have had no control over the situation, he wouldn't have been there to protect her. Also because he had no idea who or what the master would be like. Those the main reason he was hesitant on letting her join. When she actually joins, and he's officially her master, if he wanted to help her experience new things, in a safer environment where he actually has control, that could be a reason for him to give the idea some thought.

Then again, the dev liked your post, so now I'm more inclined to believe it won't be Angelina for that reason alone.

 

[xxerikxx]

Then again, the dev liked your post, so now I'm more inclined to believe it won't be Angelina for that reason alone.

I just love that people discuss the story instead of tags. Suddenly this thread became more interesting. Who knows perhaps your ideas will influence the story. Regarding the mmf. It will be easily avoidable and most players will not even find it in the first first playthrough.

 

[Yngling]

I just love that people discuss the story instead of tags. Suddenly this thread became more interesting. Who knows perhaps your ideas will influence the story. Regarding the mmf. It will be easily avoidable and most players will not even find it in the first first playthrough.

How do you feel about me referring to "the THS "prostitutes""?

I find it difficult to feel much for the girls who are "working" for you. As opposed to Angelina (obviously) but also Jenny. Is that intentional? Do you consider them prostitutes as well?

 

[SlapE]

How do you feel about me referring to "the THS "prostitutes""?

I find it difficult to feel much for the girls who are "working" for you. As opposed to Angelina (obviously) but also Jenny. Is that intentional? Do you consider them prostitutes as well?

Well sex isn't something required for the women of THS to partake in, but in order to make any decent money a lot of them have to at least accompany powerful men sometimes. Then they have the option to do sexual favors to make even more, in which case I feel like "escort" would be a more accurate term.

 

[xxerikxx]

How do you feel about me referring to "the THS "prostitutes""?

I find it difficult to feel much for the girls who are "working" for you. As opposed to Angelina (obviously) but also Jenny. Is that intentional? Do you consider them prostitutes as well?

No, I don't look at them as prostitutes. Gold-diggers perhaps. Fallon is an example that you can make it in THS without having sex with anyone. I should probably give a more nuanced pictures of the people working in THS, but it's an erotic visual novel and I don't want to bore you with a bunch of characters that will never be involved in anything sexual.

Yes, I want you to care more about Angelina and her closest friends than all the girls working in THS.

 

[RNasc4444]

xxerikxx Still can't believe Tenley came and went and we couldn't get a single lewd scene with her

That is my only gripe with the game so far. I would have traded the Chloe scenes plus the Lucy boat scene for one with Tenley. Other than that I've been loving the story and the characters.

 

[xxerikxx]

xxerikxx Still can't believe Tenley came and went and we couldn't get a single lewd scene with her

That is my only gripe with the game so far. I would have traded the Chloe scenes plus the Lucy boat scene for one with Tenley. Other than that I've been loving the story and the characters.

She just leaves in some paths...

 

[RNasc4444]

She just leaves in some paths...

Guess I'm starting a new save then... I just figured letting her leave would get me more brownie points with Mr Q...

 

[Woodstock_1983]

They should have a mod to change names in the middle of the game instead of having to keep starting a new game every time.

 

[Yngling]

Well sex isn't something required for the women of THS to partake in, but in order to make any decent money a lot of them have to at least accompany powerful men sometimes. Then they have the option to do sexual favors to make even more, in which case I feel like "escort" would be a more accurate term.

IF "sex = money" THEN "prostitute"

At least, that's my opinion. I get there is a difference between a street hooker and an escort, but in the end it is the same, as per above logic.

With Jenny I feel like there is more to it than just the money, but with the two girls working for you (even forgot their names) I don't really feel that.

No, I don't look at them as prostitutes. Gold-diggers perhaps. Fallon is an example that you can make it in THS without having sex with anyone. I should probably give a more nuanced pictures of the people working in THS, but it's an erotic visual novel and I don't want to bore you with a bunch of characters that will never be involved in anything sexual.

For gold-diggers, shouldn't the digging take more effort? I mean, the stereotypical 20-something gold-digger that marries the 80-something rich guy at least has to get the rich guy to fall for her.

Fallon is indeed a good example though. I just saw her as the stereotypical secretary without considering her membership in THS.

But honestly, my mind also gets a bit overloaded with too many characters. Personally I play the game mostly for Angelina, Sophia and Mila content, as well as for the overall story.