VN Ren'Py Abandoned The Intoxicating Flavor [v0.10.6] [PixelsLab]

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Husmi

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It's a shame, really wanted this one to get the completed tag, seems like life really did a number on this one, so at least this is one that we can't say it's just a scam dev, good for a change, since most devs that get the abandoned tag just go radio silent, I hope he gets a hold on everything, and maybe someday, he can finish the project, it's always in the back of your head when you have a project that you really wanted to finish, but can't because life happens, so good luck to the dev, and I hope to see you again going at it in the future.
 

Neko-Chan Pacifica

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It says that I am a person who had enough of seeing random dudes randomly asking for incest in every game thread without any reason.
but, but it's not just dudes, us girls like it too! I am honestly just being tongue in cheek and mean no offense whatsoever, when I say, I mean obviously it needs to make sense otherwise it's not believable, and the most important thing is it must make sense and be believable at the same time, otherwise it looses the taboo kink. Also not all games can be wholesome feel good fun, and honestly when i think back to it, this game is far too dark and grungy? I don't even know if it is a word or not or how to spell it if it so forgive me. But for sure there are a lot of us that really like IC games because of the feel good factor and wholesomeness of it and the kink ;)

It is probably me, but I don't really understand what is going on the game, because my main language is not English, and I loose something in translation, it's probably why I like to read, so I can learn the language fluently, except the Engrish hehe that is worse than I write.
 
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encassion

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but, but it's not just dudes, us girls like it too! I am honestly just being tongue in cheek and mean no offense whatsoever, when I say, I mean obviously it needs to make sense otherwise it's not believable, and the most important thing is it must make sense and be believable at the same time, otherwise it looses the taboo kink. Also not all games can be wholesome feel good fun, and honestly when i think back to it, this game is far too dark and grungy? I don't even know if it is a word or not or how to spell it if it so forgive me. But for sure there are a lot of us that really like IC games because of the feel good factor and wholesomeness of it and the kink ;)
I am thrilled to hear that some girls are so awesome :love:. Ever play Single Again? Right up your alley.

Yes, the taboo is destroyed when incest is forced or contrived. Also, I like slow build up but not when there are 15 side plots that continually interrupt the momentum. This game did have a good pace for building relationships. I believed them when there were conflicts, even if one in particular was an extreme Contrarian. (If MC likes it, she hates it. If MC makes a choice, she chooses the opposite.)

I hope to see this game completed, AND turned into a big budget movie.
 

Jericho-2043

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Hi PixelsLab!

I read your post, it is really sad. The Intoxicating Flavor is one of my favorite Visual novels, and i liked all the main cast of characters. I'm sorry that this has happened to you. But taking care of yourself first is priority, and get well soon.

If this is truly the end of Intoxicating flavor. Would you allow me to have the DUF files for Katie and Alice? Only as a souvenir.
 

m4dsk1llz

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Hi PixelsLab!

I read your post, it is really sad. The Intoxicating Flavor is one of my favorite Visual novels, and i liked all the main cast of characters. I'm sorry that this has happened to you. But taking care of yourself first is priority, and get well soon.

If this is truly the end of Intoxicating flavor. Would you allow me to have the DUF files for Katie and Alice? Only as a souvenir.
Especially Alice.
 

zaqrwe

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So recently I came back to play few latest updates. Discovered my saves were gone, so basically I had to replay whole game. And only after reminding myself how good it was by playing the whole thing, I started to read the forum and noticed it's shutted down.


Fuck me... :HideThePain: I realy hope that he'll make a comeback in a year or two.
 

cxx

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So recently I came back to play few latest updates. Discovered my saves were gone, so basically I had to replay whole game. And only after reminding myself how good it was by playing the whole thing, I started to read the forum and noticed it's shutted down.


Fuck me... :HideThePain: I realy hope that he'll make a comeback in a year or two.
weren't gone, just on diff. folder in appdata\renpy.
 
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zaqrwe

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I realized after a while, but I didn't mind playing it whole, because quite some time passed and I like it very much. The point is, I inflicted more misery upon myself by this, because now I'll definitelly miss it more than I did before replaying.
 

m4dsk1llz

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oh cool, could i see your version of katie?

This is my older version of Alice, still needs a lot of work. View attachment 3236530
I gave you her recipe here, https://f95zone.to/threads/the-intoxicating-flavor-v0-9-pixelslab.143626/post-9786944
Please note, that I haven't worked on any of these models in almost two years. Since we didn't seem to find much interest in the fan art, or support, I gave up and moved on to other VN's. Also my version is based on a converted Blaire for Genesis 3 as I like working with G8 and G8.1 better. Still uses the original Blaire textures. I don't think Katie has all her piercings in this render, but I am not sure. Matter of fact, I don't even remember if I finished her model.

Katie_TIF_Test_01.png

I made an attempt at Alice but no one seemed to like it.
 
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m4dsk1llz

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oh cool, could i see your version of katie?

This is my older version of Alice, still needs a lot of work. View attachment 3236530
My only attemt at Alice was posted here, https://f95zone.to/threads/daz3d-art-show-us-your-dazskill.4764/post-5797921

BTW, Mr.Vargas helped a little with my Katie asset. Since Katie and Alice were the only characters I was interested in and there was little interest in the Fan Art thread, that was a main reason for moving on. Also, since Katie was essentailly Blaire for Genesis 3 I was not enthusiastic about creating renders of just another Blaire clone.
 
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Jericho-2043

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Its a shame it all didnt take off, and the fan art aswell, and now the game is no more. I think it best to move on myself.

Thanks for showing me the artwork.
Oh...and happy 2024.
 

fallen59

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Hey, everyone.

I won't take too long. I got a rejection from Steam.



I knew from the very beginning that it would be like this. It was pretty obvious that Steam wouldn't like Alice, and they decided to reinsure themselves. It's still very frustrating though.

The reply from Steam came over a week ago, and all this time I've been trying to finally decide what to do next.

I've already mentioned my situation in the last post, now I'll try to explain it in more detail, telling you what happened to me for the last year and a half. But before I do that, I'll make it clear that I'm not writing this to make you feel sorry for me, but to explain why I have to close the game.

About the finances.

After I took a break last February and froze the page for 3 months to regain some health and nerves, I lost about 45% of my support. That's when I decided not to complain about life, and just keep doing what I can to keep the game alive. That's why I hardly wrote any personal posts like I used to do. And every month after that, the support on Patreon dropped harder and harder. I had small savings, and I could live on them. But gradually they started to run out too.

Then, in November 2022, Payoneer, the payment system I used to withdraw funds from Patreon, announced that it was closing all accounts for Russians. And I then asked those of you who had the opportunity to subscribe for a year, so that I could have at least some reserves. And a lot of people responded. Thank you very much again! I then raised $2,489, which I stretched over the course of 6 months. Obviously, I wasn't doing so well, so I started borrowing from people I knew and doing part-time work to keep afloat somehow.

In June, I traveled to another country to open an account there and withdraw my Patreon savings. I had to travel three times before I could receive them. As you can imagine, traveling to another country is not cheap, and to save money, I decided to take the bus. And that turned out to be a big problem because of my back. 17 hours straight one way on a bus with a sore spine is hell. It's been five months and I still haven't recovered from those trips. I withdrew $3,287 dollars from Patreon back then - that's what I had accumulated in a little over 6 months. Which would have been a good amount, but I was already in quite a bit of debt at the time, and I gave away most of that money almost immediately. And don't forget that to get that money, I had to travel to another country 3 times, pay for the trips themselves and the hotel. Now I have 2900 dollars saved up on Patreon again, which will barely cover my current debts accumulated over the last 5 months.

I realize a lot of you math doesn't add up, but this weird stuff from Patreon. Right now it says on the home page that I have $739 in support, but I'm very lucky if I raise that amount. More often than not, I raise $100 less. I never figured out how this counter works in so many years.

Anyway, that's all I wanted to say about finances. Once again, I'll make it clear that this is not an attempt to make you feel sorry for me, I'm just trying to tell you about my situation in life. If you felt sorry for me and decided to support me after this, you should be very wrong. I'm just a guy on the internet, and my situation is far from the worst. There are millions of people in the world with much worse problems, help them better. Also, don't forget that the holidays are coming up and you'll need to buy gifts for your loved ones. And I'll pay off my debts myself, since I've already found a job. But I am still very grateful to you for helping me for so long!

About health.

In fact, that's the main reason I gave up. Because I feel worse and worse.

As I've shared before, I took a break for three months in February 2022. And it really helped me! I felt normal for over a year, hardly ever thinking about my back. But after the 3 trips mentioned, it got worse than ever. Especially after the last one, when the bus got stuck at the border and instead of 17 hours, I sat on the bus for 28. That totally messed me up, and I still haven't recovered even though it's been over 5 months.

In September I had a very severe attack and for 2 weeks I basically couldn't work, couldn't sit, lie down or stand normally. I was in a lot of pain and no painkillers helped. That being said, I went to doctors, got massages, had a bunch of shots and lay under IVs with painkillers. It was because of this that I was not able to get the October update out in time. And now every day I'm afraid that I can break down again and go down for a couple more weeks, or possibly forever.

It was after the October update that I decided to close the game. I realized that with my health, I wouldn't be able to release even short updates every month. And if I don't release updates every month, support goes down a lot.

About motivation.

As you realize, it's hard to develop a game with these inputs. It's hard to come up with dialogs, jokes and other things when you're struggling with your own health and financial problems. And the motivation is getting weaker and weaker every day.

Also, of course, it's frustrating when you look at some new game that in the first 2 months gathers as much support as I've been gathering for 3-4 years. That's a lot of pressure. And I can't even understand why it's not like that for me. I mean, I really tried. I tried on every word, render, animation and everything, everything, everything. Is it just luck? Or is my game that much worse? I know it sounds pathetic, but it still hurts.

About Steam.

I'd like to add a few words about Steam. I've already said I was sure about the rejection, but some developers I knew and just friends urged me to try releasing the game there, as it could bring in enough for me to finish the game without worrying about money. That was one of the reasons why I started reworking the first chapters. But unfortunately, what happened is what happened. It's hard to blame Steam, since the fact that it releases adult games at all is already surprising. But it's so fucking frustrating!

Actually, the most annoying thing about this whole situation, in my opinion, is that the game has enough content for a fully finished game. About 200,000 words! That's more than in two full-fledged novels. Over 6 thousand images! Most of which are well done. Cool animations. Yes there aren't many, but they're good. So good, in fact, that several developers have offered to let me do animations for their games for money.

Now that I think about it, I'm really surprised at what a gigantic job I did. And how frustrated I am that I never got around to finishing it....

Oh, okay. Stop feeling sorry for myself, I already look like a whiner after this post. Let's summarize.

Bottom line.

I have neither the health nor the financial ability to continue The Intoxicating Flavor. Therefore, I am permanently closing the game.

I am very sorry. I apologize to you for not being able to bring the story to the promised end.

I have already taken an official job. I contacted a former boss of mine who we worked well with for many years, and he offered me a position with him. It seems to pay a good salary. Now I need to work at least six months to get back on my feet, pay off my debts and make at least some savings. But what will I do after that?

I really want to keep making games. I think I have pretty good skills for that right now. At least I have a good renderer, and the animations are getting better and better every time. I'm not so sure about my skills as a screenwriter anymore though. TIF was too unpopular... But, I still have hope to make an interesting game.

I originally wanted to remove the pages on Patreon, Boosty, Subscribestar and all social media related to the game, as well as the Discord server. To completely disappear as PixelsLab. After all, even if I decide to create a new game, I'll still have the shadow of an unfinished project on me. But on the other hand, I've heard so many words of support in the last two weeks that I just don't want to part with you. Besides, many of you have become, if not friends, then at least good acquaintances whose opinions are interesting to listen to.

So there's no way I can decide how I should proceed. I'm still leaning towards closing the page, since even if I start a new project, it will be very different from TIF. But for now, I've decided to freeze the page until the new year so Patreon doesn't charge you, and closer to the end of December I'll either extend the freeze or delete the page for good.

Unfortunately, there is no way to freeze the page on Boosty and Subscribestar. So you'll have to unsubscribe on your own. Anyway, at the end of December I will remove the support levels on these sites so that those who forget to unsubscribe will not be charged.

Also on Patreon you can request a refund for the last month. If that doesn't work, write me and I'll try to do it on my end.
And I want to apologize to you again. I'm very sorry for letting you down like that. And thank you more for being with me these years! You gave me a chance to do something new and unusual for myself! I wish I could have taken that chance to the fullest.

P.S. Would you like to discuss the reason why TIF never became popular? I'd really like to hear your opinion. I wanted to write a separate post about it myself, but more than anything I want to hear an outside opinion. I'm very interested.
NOOOOOO!!!

I don't understand why this game was rejected when much worse games can be on Steam.
Sometimes when I search for games in the sexual content category on Steam, I see garbage games and TIF is not and will never be one of them. I would like to see the story of this game end, I really do. But not like this.

But thank you very very much. Thank you for making such a beautiful game. I hope we can see you again.
 

Firebeast

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Underage looking younger sister was the reason I believe. Alice to be specific. Steam has a no sex with underage character policy.

The most frustrating thing is, that TiF is such an amazing game in everyway, yet a game like the grandmothers house rakes in the money. Why i don't know. There are a few others that I can think of that is not worth the amount of support compared to this game, yet that is the reality.

NOOOOOO!!!

I don't understand why this game was rejected when much worse games can be on Steam.
Sometimes when I search for games in the sexual content category on Steam, I see garbage games and TIF is not and will never be one of them. I would like to see the story of this game end, I really do. But not like this.

But thank you very very much. Thank you for making such a beautiful game. I hope we can see you again.
 
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JerryC

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PixelsLab, I was a subscriber years ago, when you just started out. Your story is one of the best. I didn't know anything about your problems, and lately I got back to VNs, so I was happy to take TIF and see what happened in the last two years! I so enjoyed it that I went directly to Patreon to subscribe again... And then I can't as it says that you're not accepting new members. Your Patreon became the Island; And Inanna doesn't want anything to do with me.

BUT! I might be no Michael, but as a regular guy, I send you all my support and hope that you'll find the strength to get back on your feet! And also to give us a proper ending to this incredible story. You deserve to see your project to the end. And to get better and feel proud of everything that you accomplished.
 
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botc76

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Damn, that sucks so hard, this game was one of the best when it came to super-powered mystic MC.
It was always very clear that a lot of thought went into the characters and story, despite English not being pixelslab first language.
And then the women were gorgeous as well, and the renders back when the game started were some of the best and still hold up great.

I'm so sorry that he had to give up on his game, after all the energy and effort he put into it and of course it's also devastating that we will not see the end, when it seemed to not be that far away.

I never caught up on his problems, I wished I did, I would have at least tried to support as much as possible.
Honestly, I didn't expect financial problems, I thought a game like this would have at least enough support for the dev to live with it.
But of course, Patreon and their stupid Russia politics have hindered many artists and devs. I get that you have to sanction the country as a whole, due to the attack on Ukraine, but why Patreon stopped allowing them access to their accounts, never understood that. What can a russian artist or game dev do to stop the war his government wants, why should they not get the money people wanted them to have for their work?

Patreon really sucks so much. For years, their policies have always just damaged creators and patrons.
This game and this dev deserved better.
 

botc76

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Underage looking younger sister was the reason I believe. Alice to be specific. Steam has a no sex with underage character policy.

The most frustrating thing is, that TiF is such an amazing game in everyway, yet a game like the grandmothers house rakes in the money. Why i don't know. There are a few others that I can think of that is not worth the amount of support compared to this game, yet that is the reality.

Grandma's house caters to a completely different niche. You can't really compare the two games.
I get what you mean, but quality is subjective and for many people Grandma's House delivers exactly what they want.
Lots and lots of sex without any story development for more than a year and no ending in sight, despite really needing to end.
But again, it's a matter of opinion and what people want from a game.
 

Mmushy

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That's a bummer. Just when the story was starting to get interesting too.

I have experienced and understand the curve balls life throws at you. Sometimes it seems nothing works out but it will in the end. It may not be how we envisioned it but it will be ok
 
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