Fulminato

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That´s the frustrating part: i DID fought every enemy available in the game, hunted the fuckers down - or at least i tried - so if i missed something, that´s that and it ruined the voting - no Vaults for me and had to deal with the Unpersons during the war (althought i got the impression that they actually helped against the Incubus Duke, as i didn´t remember having to fight them). In all, i dont want to read any FAQS because i already reached chapter whathever (when you get the palace HQ) and i´m being able to deal with the enemies with certain combinations - and besides Hilstara, who died in the battle when she was alone and got crippled out of the host, i didn´t lost any battles against the seeds when you had to assemble 4 squads - mentioning that because that was another section that gave me several gameovers. After that, no fight had gave me a gameover, so far, and even if i feel that this game is an amazing title for an RPGMaker Game, lacking grinding and losing battles should be treated as a type of 'decision' ingame that leads to a branching path, because, as i´ve noticed, grinding has been removed and you CAN miss entire maps and sections of the game depending of your choices or if you don´t speak with all NPCs - and a gameover for lack of level or money on top of a storyline driven game with those characteristics is infuriating.
your party level just before the start of the war is? and your best gear is? just to be able to compare with mine.
 

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your party level just before the start of the war is? and your best gear is? just to be able to compare with mine.
Between level 40/42 to all members, Dwarren armor and Durge weapons for all, gauntlets for the warriors and protection pins against paralyze or mute. Aka has her custom knife and Hilstara her Helm. All succubus have buttplugs to start battles with 100 lust and armed with vibrators to recover quickly - except Nalili, her sexy sword is superior to everthing so far.
 

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Between level 40/42 to all members, Dwarren armor and Durge weapons for all, gauntlets for the warriors and protection pins against paralyze or mute. Aka has her custom knife and Hilstara her Helm. All succubus have buttplugs to start battles with 100 lust and armed with vibrators to recover quickly - except Nalili, her sexy sword is superior to everthing so far.
a bit low, should be 44-42. mage/warrior/thief/slave/... pins are for early game, at your point should be barrier/givini/heirloom/... for most of the party members, vibrator for anything isn't qum is a total waste, worn whip for yarra is simply better, for riala rabid whip you can recover during the assault to the IE castle. and for qum dildo+perversion charm is even better [yes, you lose status protection, but outside a very few fight it's irrilevant because simon support aura is a full cleanse]. for simon ancient glove [the one you recover in zirantia] is a must {until you recover the incubus glove} not only boost is MAT making he the top healer in the party, but boost SP generation {like the mentioned above incubus glove and the lustplate} any other choice is simply inferior. sexy sword is a good starting weapon for nalili, because her level is so low, but every end game sword (drudge, sylvan, etc...) is way better.

the main advice is discover weakness (both to the type of dmg and the status) of the enemies, and rearrange your party accordingly. simon dominate/corrupt, robin distrupt {synergy with qum} and so on are very usefull to block a dangerous enemy, and don't forget the healing the buff spell grant, often is the only healing you need.
 

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and even then being level 99 does not help through an altered save stops mattering around the end of that war at the latest since by that point the raw stats you get from levels are just.

as in all three fights you mentioned are just as hard with the normal unhacked level playthrough as when my whole party was 99 hell after the Incubus king I noticed pretty much no difference from levels in any fight

hell I think that beach one wreaked my level 99 party first time as well.

every other time I won either with normal level party or not though sometimes one of the group does wreak me because ouch still not as bad as the super spiders back in chapter 1 though
 

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Is the problem that it's difficult or that you can't over level and smack everything down with brute force like most jrpgs because it sounds like it's the latter. What this and undertale do at least means you have to pay attention to the game. Rather than overleveling and just taking chunks out of what is supposed to be a challenging enemy. There's nothing in this that isn't beatable even with a lower level party. I've done the port fight with a party about that level and steamrolled it Robin, Carina and Yarra and I'm not sure I needed Carina. The game isn't difficult it just doesn't let you steamroll everything. There are 3 areas where it can be argued to be too difficult the tunnel with the modified spiders, the ruins you unlock for 5 mil and the Erosian temple fight they're about the only ones that even knowing what to do you can get smacked down though 2 are optional and all are still very beatable. The game isn't difficult it just doesn't let you grind until you're overleveled and then smack everything down and never come close to losing.


Though even in this you can brute force most fights if you want, Varia seems designed to allow exactly that. There's not many fights where she can't be buffed up to win it by herself. Last Sovereign is a lot of things particularly difficult it is not especially to the level it's like dark souls or is down to RNG whether you get lucky and win.
personaly find the spiders in stineford one of the wrost enemy. if not THE wrost. mostly because your options in both characters selection and equip are so low. i still find some problem in that fucking house each time i play [last run is ongoing since december for to little time to play, so the memory is fresh].

the modifies spider were a nightment in the *.0 i reload 30/40 times to defeat the boss. in the .1/.2 rebalancing i defeat that group 5 time in a row {to check if i was lucky with rnjesus}. granted i used a very select party with no so standard equip. but usaly if a group devastates you {erosian temple is the prime example} the reply is usualy vhala's defensive rain, twice. if it's only one opponent aka's disabling strike*2 is better.

usualy my strategy pillar is a robin lance with double arousing aura. nearly any enemy in the game had some base elemental weakness (fire, ice or ligthing) and robin can easly nuke them. with the option to use distrupt if some cc are needed (usualy use simon's unified strike, but distrupt is way more reliable if you cannot let the enemy make any attack) a double arousing aura can heal ~ 50% of the full HP bars with a strong defense mean i don't need any other healing for the whole fight [this is for the 'trash mob', not the bosses], but many girls have a specific niche of application [varia absolute glass cannon, yarra sex-based CC AoE, uyae physical multi hitter, nalili physical aoe, etc...] so i rotate the them often to leverage enemy weakness/flaws [or counter they strength/resistence], but ususaly elemental dmg is king in TLS.
 
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There is a reason you can go through most fights with Aka, Simon, Robin and insert spare person here depending on needs, Aka with her insanely good single target debuff and great Physical damage, robin and lances and Simon for general support/extra dps, my main issue with my normal party is when buffing Aka is too fast to benefit that turn from buffs
 
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for riala rabid whip you can recover during the assault to the IE castle.
I usually give her the Zirantian Vibe as that gives +20 Defense she needs, boosts magic up alot and a masturbate+ so she's not stuck wasting 2 turns with aura mast instead. Could give her a staff but then she misses that status protection from sexual/succubus pins and the enemies you face in the tower are more than annoying in silencing her.

There are 3 areas where it can be argued to be too difficult the tunnel with the modified spiders, the ruins you unlock for 5 mil and the Erosian temple fight they're about the only ones that even knowing what to do you can get smacked down though 2 are optional and all are still very beatable.
I still have nightmares about the Knights of Terror, as this was before Hilstara learnt Aegis Assault for high targeted damage with her. I had to use Varia with blade dance and lucked out when she got 3 ~11k crits on a target and took it out. Once you take out 1 it becomes alot easier but those 2 first turns are hell.
 
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I usually give her the Zirantian Vibe as that gives +20 Defense she needs, boosts magic up alot and a masturbate+ so she's not stuck wasting 2 turns with aura mast instead. Could give her a staff but then she misses that status protection from sexual/succubus pins and the enemies you face in the tower are more than annoying in silencing her.
she don't need extra defence, like robin. yes, they are a little squishy but they are strong enough to survive the turn. simon support aura is the first at the start of the next turn and heal 50%+ so they are nearly full HP. only occasion i put high DEF on them is the nodes fight before tertia, there one skill make a lot dmg if DEF and MDF are lower of 200.

succubus pin grant stats immunity and sexbind immunity. riala don't need to wast round mastrubating, her elemental skill are enough for the first couple of turns, [qum arousing aura grant +5 SP each cast] or just the first turn to be able to smite one foe with sexual lance for two consecutive rounds {enough to nuclearized any sex-weak enemy}. and her lifestealing skill is good for reducing pressure on the healer if thing turn bad for unlucky rolls.

I still have nightmares about the Knights of Terror, as this was before Hilstara learnt Aegis Assault for high targeted damage with her. I had to use Varia with blade dance and lucked out when she got 3 ~11k crits on a target and took it out. Once you take out 1 it becomes alot easier but those 2 first turns are hell.
once you know the conditions making them enraged and the elemental weakness they are manageable. an hell of a figth, yes, but doable. genetically mutated spiders first version were... no, simply no. i used the F12 more then 4 previous months together
 

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This damned game gave me a blue screen of death, the difficulty is also nonsensical, hentai games are supposed to make you relax not get angry at dumb RNG and bad game mechanics, not only can't you grind enemies you have to follow a walkthrough to recruit party members asap so they don't lose tone of experience from the limited enemies you can find.
 

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uhhhhh this thread is going to keep going about the combat when the real issue is that people just need to get good. I got my ass kicked by some enemies when I first played because I just used brute force but when I started to experiment and found great success with different strategies I began to appreciate the combat more also lets nip this in the bud grinding in this game is a horrible idea it would break the economy and difficulty balancing and it would interrupt the story and slow the whole game down and would also damage the careful pacing the game does really well so no grinding would just add filler and make the game much more boring if your having difficulty in the game its because your not experimenting and using the same characters or because you neglected to upgrade you party with equipment and didn't kill any of the optional enemies. now can we move on please!
 
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This damned game gave me a blue screen of death, the difficulty is also nonsensical,
Never heard of this game giving BSOD before :unsure:
Difficulty's fine for the most part. The only exception is for new parts that generally require tweaking after initial release, then they're fine.


hentai games are supposed to make you relax not get angry at dumb RNG and bad game mechanics
Hate to break it to you, but this is a story/character driven game first, porn second. Surprised you didn't pick up on that before recruiting Qum, to be honest.:unsure:

Just because it's classified as a pornographic/erotic game, doesn't mean that is its driving force.

not only can't you grind enemies you have to follow a walkthrough to recruit party members asap so they don't lose tone of experience from the limited enemies you can find.
It's not built around grinding xp on mobs or random spawns. This isn't Final Fantasy <insert number here>, or any other typical JRPG, especially when the walkthrough is really only useful for min/maxing background mechanics like PRoN and investments. Even then, you don't need the walkthrough for that, since there's plenty of help in this thread for that alone.

Ultimately, no matter what anyone says, it looks like this game isn't for you. It's not what you were looking for, or expecting it to be.
Instead of throwing a tantrum about it in a thread on a pirate forum, maybe just leave it alone and look for some other fap material.
 
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Can't put my head around having a linear progression that doesn't allow you to backtrack with really hard encounters where stuff can easily two shot your party and everything is way faster so you can't even CC them, the game is making me feel mad about it and I will simply drop it instead and leave a 1/5 review as it was a really bad experience.

The get good thing is nonsense, you can easily have a game that challenges players and is not downright unfair or makes everyone have to play in the same way and doesn't require scum saving all the time. This game fails miserably in both the H and gameplay fronts.
 
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The get good thing is nonsense, you can easily have a game that challenges players and is not downright unfair or makes everyone have to play in the same way and doesn't require scum saving all the time. This game fails miserably in both the H and gameplay fronts.
I know Git Gud is a meme but the basics of it are 1. Train your skills to be good enough to defeat a boss/trouble section of a game, (See Dark Souls and Darkest Dungeon for example) but for me it's actually 2. Know your enemies weaknesses and attack patterns, find items and help that can take them down and adopt a strategy that shifts the advantage as much as you can to your end.
I've never played Dark Souls cause I don't feel like banging my head against a wall but with Darkest Dungeon, there's simple things like never take a Plague Doctor to the Warrens because they're disease resist, Never rely on an Occultist's heal because it will fail you in a critical moment and you can't use his turban as a bandage so bring along the Arbalist, Always finish off an enemy instead of stalling because things can turn so quick that you will lose people due to your hubris.
There's a reason people comment saying Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer, because at some point you will fug up somehow.

I say all this because knowing the game, even if it's from walkthroughs or first hand experience, is what Git Gud means. If you're abandoning the challenge now, you deny yourself the experience and the glory of overcoming it.

Edit: On replaying the battle, Blood Strike from Varia does 8k crit, while Blade dance can do around 1-2k each strike to 3-6k on crit, so targeting a single unit with Blood Strike is good to get rid of one and give yourself breathing room.
 
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Can't put my head around having a linear progression that doesn't allow you to backtrack with really hard encounters where stuff can easily two shot your party and everything is way faster so you can't even CC them, the game is making me feel mad about it and I will simply drop it instead and leave a 1/5 review as it was a really bad experience.
in the game don't basicaly exist any fight you cannot land a CC on the enemy in the first couple of turn.
there are some difficult fights and there are few other to much RNG-dependent. but we talk about 5-10 section for the whole game. if you are blasted mean you are underleveled, underequipped or you employ a non viable combat strategy.
 

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Again: Everyone mad about the combat should just use the . There's no point having a detailed argument about it here because the dev isn't gonna see it.
This damned game gave me a blue screen of death,
Extremely unlikely. You'd better figure out what actually happened, because it probably wasn't the game and BSODs these days tend to be something actually wrong. Perhaps your antivirus did something stupid?
 
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3DGuy

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Combat difficulty aside, i´m intrigued with the majority of political choices and sheer amount of investment options, so without reading any FAQ: is there a 'doomed' gameplay, or the equivalent of a very bad ending that´s not a gameover screen?
Because i really hate the church of Ivala and tried my best to fuck with everything during their summit, but all i received were lazy gameovers.
So far i screwed up with the summit, lost Hilstara and got depressing results with the succubus church votes, but could i have fared worst, or this is as bad as i can go?
Can a player lose girls or a fat chunk of the game depending of how poorly he decides things? Just curious.
 
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