VN Ren'Py Abandoned The Manifest: Shadows Over Manston [v2.2] [White Phantom Games]

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Thermophob

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Who put that "abandoned" tag anyways? That shit could make people assume the worst.
Well, it's not a tag. It's a prefix (added before the title). Tags are added above the title, they indicate content, for most the part. Anyway, like at every forum, prefixes and tags are added by amoderation team. For what's worth this game need another prefix (on-hold), but either way it doesn't mean a lot. It's just an informative mark. :)
 
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jospaghettio

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The two games have different kinks. I would have preferred a 2-1 update rhythm like Mr. Dots. That way no one is left out.
 

fishbrain

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6 more updates planned before DLC is "finished" in terms of content. Then I'll be doing a big finishing patch adding music etc to make it v.1. This is the time when I'll start rendering for SoM again though if it isn't voted for.
Ha!! I just started DLC again today and started thinking about this one. I remember being really immersed in the story with Dusk and some of the other characters and was wondering the latest. Not often it's this easy to find answers, so thank you and I look forward to restarting this one when updates are back underway!
 

-CookieMonster666-

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Can't there be a incest patch like other games have.
Sure, but someone has to create that to make it so. There are a couple of things preventing that from happening right now. Firstly, WhitePhantom isn't focused on this game at the moment; his Patreon polls have pushed for him to finish Defending Lydia Collier first, which he is doing really well on. Not a lot of updates left on that game before he'll switch back over to this one. (Don't interpret "not a lot" to mean just one or two, however.)

Secondly, if the developer doesn't create the patch themselves, you have to wait for some user here on F95 with knowledge of whatever engine is used in different games (Ren'Py here) to create the patch that would work for the game. Basically, patches find and replace text. An original line of code might be something like "Why is [s1] walking around in only her underwear?" Then, elsewhere, the variable [s1] is assigned a value of "my roommate" in the original game code, but the patch changes that value to "my sister". So, the sentence ends up changing from "Why is my roommate walking around in only her underwear?" to "Why is my sister walking around in only her underwear?" But someone has to specifically make such a patch, which apparently hasn't been done yet.

Additionally, I have heard — I cannot confirm this, mind you — that sometimes someone working for Patreon will visit this site, specifically looking for someone who is trying to circumvent their policies. They try to see if someone's game doesn't technically have incest, but actually does have it (when they release an incest patch or incest version of the game here). I honestly think this is BS, because I've seen plenty of developers have a Patreon version of their game (no incest technically) that differs from a Subscribestar version (with incest). Among others, I can think of Sunshine Love that does this specifically. But it's possibly this is true, which would be another hurdle.
 
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Machete

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I would add that, for this title, storywise, it wouldn't make much sense. Who's going to be the relative? Sure not the fiancee or her daugther since the main character meets them in a scene when the daughter is already at least 12 old. You know? Show, don't tell. The comatose fellow agent? Can't work. Any of the school girl or teachers? Unlikely. Somehow Fiancee sister's? No, really. I wouldn't know whom could be related to MC at all. I think this game is already way on the good side without incest.
 

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Sure, but someone has to create that to make it so. There are a couple of things preventing that from happening right now. Firstly, WhitePhantom isn't focused on this game at the moment; his Patreon polls have pushed for him to finish Defending Lydia Collier first, which he is doing really well on. Not a lot of updates left on that game before he'll switch back over to this one. (Don't interpret "not a lot" to mean just one or two, however.)

Secondly, if the developer doesn't create the patch themselves, you have to wait for some user here on F95 with knowledge of whatever engine is used in different games (Ren'Py here) to create the patch that would work for the game. Basically, patches find and replace text. An original line of code might be something like "Why is [s1] walking around in only her underwear?" Then, elsewhere, the variable [s1] is assigned a value of "my roommate" in the original game code, but the patch changes that value to "my sister". So, the sentence ends up changing from "Why is my roommate walking around in only her underwear?" to "Why is my sister walking around in only her underwear?" But someone has to specifically make such a patch, which apparently hasn't been done yet.

Additionally, I have heard — I cannot confirm this, mind you — that sometimes someone working for Patreon will visit this site, specifically looking for someone who is trying to circumvent their policies. They try to see if someone's game doesn't technically have incest, but actually does have it (when they release an incest patch or incest version of the game here). I honestly think this is BS, because I've seen plenty of developers have a Patreon version of their game (no incest technically) that differs from a Subscribestar version (with incest). Among others, I can think of Sunshine Love that does this specifically. But it's possibly this is true, which would be another hurdle.
I never knew all that thanks for the info on that i hope there is a patch for it one day.
 

-CookieMonster666-

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I would add that, for this title, storywise, it wouldn't make much sense. Who's going to be the relative? Sure not the fiancee or her daugther since the main character meets them in a scene when the daughter is already at least 12 old. You know? Show, don't tell. The comatose fellow agent? Can't work. Any of the school girl or teachers? Unlikely. Somehow Fiancee sister's? No, really. I wouldn't know whom could be related to MC at all. I think this game is already way on the good side without incest.
I never knew all that thanks for the info on that i hope there is a patch for it one day.
No problem. I wouldn't expect that a lot of folks understand how stuff like this works. I'm an old-school programmer myself (as in really ancient programming languages), so I haven't learned things like Ren'Py (or Python, on which it's based), Unity, Unreal, etc. But generally programming languages are similar enough that concepts like this translate across them pretty easily.

I am confident I could learn many of these types of programming languages, but I really don't have time these days for that. Most of my spare time gets used for things like assisting with translations or editing of scripts or play-testing games and catching up on my favorite adult games. I barely have time — very occasionally — to create something like a walkthrough or signature, both of which simply require someone else's software and a bit of typing or mouse-clicking. I definitely don't have time to learn a new computer language.

But as Machete has said, for this particular game, I don't believe an incest patch would make sense. All of the characters are set up in such a way that the MC wouldn't have any relatives in the game's characters. The fiancée already had a daughter, so no relation to the MC; and as he mentioned, the flashbacks in the game specifically tell us that Penelope could never be the MC's blood relation; he wasn't anywhere even close to being with Jane when she had her daughter. The MC would not be related to Jessica nor any of the police; there's not even a hint of a relation. He also couldn't be related to the teachers or students. They all were completely new to him, other than Jane and Penelope. And although he cheated on Jane with Tanya, that just means he's a cheater; Tanya wouldn't be related, either. I don't see how you could ever manage it with this game and have it make any sense, unless you completely rewrote the script. I doubt anyone would put that much effort into it.
 
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No problem. I wouldn't expect that a lot of folks understand how stuff like this works. I'm an old-school programmer myself (as in really ancient programming languages), so I haven't learned things like Ren'Py (or Python, on which it's based), Unity, Unreal, etc. But generally programming languages are similar enough that concepts like this translate across them pretty easily.

I am confident I could learn many of these types of programming languages, but I really don't have time these days for that. Most of my spare time gets used for things like assisting with translations or editing of scripts or play-testing games and catching up on my favorite adult games. I barely have time — very occasionally — to create something like a walkthrough or signature, both of which simply require someone else's software and a bit of typing or mouse-clicking. I definitely don't have time to learn a new computer language.

But as Machete has said, for this particular game, I don't believe an incest patch would make sense. All of the characters are set up in such a way that the MC wouldn't have any relatives in the game's characters. The fiancée already had a daughter, so no relation to the MC; and as he mentioned, the flashbacks in the game specifically tell us that Penelope could never be the MC's blood relation; he wasn't anywhere even close to being with Jane when she had her daughter. The MC would not be related to Jessica nor any of the police; there's not even a hint of a relation. He also couldn't be related to the teachers or students. They all were completely new to him, other than Jane and Penelope. And although he cheated on Jane with Tanya, that just means he's a cheater; Tanya wouldn't be related, either. I don't see how you could ever manage it with this game and have it make any sense, unless you completely rewrote the script. I doubt anyone would put that much effort into it.
Damn i did not know that shame damn shame i love me some good incest. lol
 

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I never knew all that thanks for the info on that i hope there is a patch for it one day.
If someone hasn't created one yet, it's unlikely to happen. You can always give it a go and manually edit the script, changing the names as well as anything else that doesn't quite fit. Will take some time but perhaps worth it
 

Crimsonfiend76

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Really enjoyed the game so far, can't wait for the Dev to come back to it. Honestly cannot decide between Hannah or Penelope, even Mercedes is starting to be more than just a FWB, especially as she'll be a mother soon. That said it was definitely messed up seeing Jessica's past and what a D-bag the MC was leaving her for Jane. Sure Jane was in a bind, but to do that to Jessica was all kinds of fucked up.

If/when the dev comes back to this game, really hoping Jessica wakes up and my MC can propose properly to her while apologizing for causing her so much pain. Honestly, this was the first time I surprised myself and avoided sexing up the fiancée/Jane at every opportunity. It's not her fault, she didn't do anything wrong other than unknowingly steal the MC from his college sweetheart. And while she's got a great pair of tits, I just personally felt no attraction to her whatsoever. Even Miss Miller & definitely Lieutenant McKenna were potential L.I. I would have loved to get closer to including some of the other side girls over being with Jane. I'd love to hope for more than just a single L.I. path/ending if possible given all the potential pregnancies.

As far as the likelihood of an incest patch, as much as I normally enjoy that kink, it really doesn't make sense in this story as the MC is unmarried but engaged to a woman with a teenage daughter that isn't his. I can't believe I'm saying this but not every game needs to have that kind of relationship. While stepdaughter isn't the same, it can still be pretty hot. The only way to force it in the game was to make Tanya the MC's sister and not Jane's sister. I mean its already kinda in there via Dusk's backstory hating her mom and sister for sending daddy to jail for sexing up his own daughter.
 
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