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Well that post is almost 2 years old in itself so will not hold my breath on it.
A lot of games/VN said to be "On-Hold" that end up being abandoned in the long run.
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A lot of games/VN said to be "On-Hold" that end up being abandoned in the long run.
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And DLC is still being worked on...disproving your opinion...so....hold your breath or don't....
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168 pages of abandoned games/VN out of 664 pages says a lot about games/VN being abandoned.
That is about 25% of all games/VN.
ADD: Don't get me wrong I hope it does come back but I will not hold my breath over it.
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IMHO there are games far worst then abandoned. Those top level games who have been running for almost a decade now who are officially ongoing and get maybe 1 or 2 updates per year. They are not abandoned, they are bona fide zombified and they will never see a ending.
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I'm sure he's not posted again because, as that post shows, he gets this question all the time.
First F95 Poster: Oh, looks like it's abandoned.
White Phantom: It's not abandoned. It's just paused while I finish the other game.
Another F95 Poster: I guess this is abandoned.
White Phantom: No, it's really not abandoned. I've already talked about this.
Yet Another F95 Poster: Too bad this is abandoned.
White Phantom: Are you kidding me right now? This. Is. Not. Abandoned.
Even Another F95 Poster: Why did this game get abandoned?
White Phantom: ... 
Give the guy a break already. It's totally understandable how irritating it is to go over the same thing again and again and again. The only reason this is on hold instead of being worked on is the other game. He even did a Patreon poll asking, and his supporters specifically said they wanted Defending Lydia Collier to be completed before returning to this one. Hold your breath or don't; I really couldn't care. I see absolutely no reason to doubt what WP has said. Other developers doing shady stuff doesn't mean this developer is the same. TBH I think making assumptions is silly, but you're free to do what you wish obviously.
Precisely. If WP were inactive, that would be one thing. Jumping to conclusions about him because other devs on completely different projects make their own choices is illogical. WP is not those other developers.
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it's hard to pick up the game again after long time, even after dev state multiple time he did not abandon the game with how slow defending lydia development is, i'ms sure in the end he will abandon the game anyway.
not the first time and not last time either.
not the first time and not last time either.
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I'm sure you're the voice of expertise in that regard with your two sig banners
Once again, for those with obvious comprehension issues...Wp has been fully transparent so far and done everything he said he was going to do ever since that post 2 years ago and his other VN does get regular updates (barring his recent hand accident), even if they may be small on certain routes. So everyone's 'expert opinion' is nothing but whiny hot air based on actual current facts.
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To me it would have been better to do both at once and alternate updates. Yes it would have slowed production which would suck, and I get he wanted to focus on Lydia Collier. But dropping the ball on a game that people like for 2 years is abandonment. Regardless of what the dev wants to call it. I almost wish someone else would have picked up the game at some point just to prove the point this was a stupid move.
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"A stupid move" that his patrons overwhelmingly wanted. Follow the people who pay you, or follow the randos on a pirate site where 90+% won't give you a cent. Not even remotely a "stupid move".
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Hi welcome to this pirate site. Would you like me to help you off your high horse? Yes I understand that people like Lydia Collier. But people also liked Manifest as well. If nobody that was paying liked the game he wouldn't be going back to it would he? So then he dropped those people in support of the masses. I don't argue the idea that if the majority wanted Lydia that he should work on that game. My point is just that forgetting his other game for years doesn't help the people that liked it. Had he split the efforts somewhat it would have been a smarter move that would have kept all his patrons happy. Not just most of them. I understand we get the games free here and I'm always happy for whatever we get. But I do feel bad in situations like this for those who were forgotten be cause the many out numbered the few.
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That's possibly the most badly interpreted response to what I said that you could've reached. Well done.
My point was that it makes no sense from a business perspective. Obviously not all, but most developers are trying to get to a position where they can make a living off of their games — you know, earning money? That's that thing that gives them slips of paper and coins (or the crypto equivalent) that can be exchanged for food, water, electricity, a home, and whatever else a person needs to survive. If someone has the choice in business to do Thing A that is going to make them money; or to do Thing B, where they will put in a bunch of work but make either no or much less money, the stupid move in business is to do Thing B. Thus, when people paying them (so they can earn their living off of game development) ask for something, it's best business practice to give them what they want, as long as it's not unreasonable.
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Ironic considering you still refuse to notice what I said. But whatever not gonna argue with idiots today.
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You said:
Working on two projects at the same time almost never works out well and sinks both projects. Maybe RL for him is too busy to focus on both games. In that case, what you proposed would not have kept all his patrons happy. Every single time I've ever seen anyone try working on two games (scores of instances over the years), there are tons of people who always chide them, saying they really should've focused on one game only. Support over time typically drops off, and then both games get abandoned.
I get you want this game to continue, and it will. Maybe you should do some meditation or something to calm yourself in the meantime. I didn't "refuse to notice" what you said; what you said is simply untrue and fails to address the actual issue. He put up a poll and his patrons voted. To make money, he should follow the desires of the majority of his supporters. (This was the point in my previous post where I addressed what you said, rather than "refuse to notice" it. He needs to make money, not take Thing B — what I said before — by splitting his efforts, foundering, and then having everything fall apart.)
While you and some others might not like what was decided, he did make the decision democratic, which he never had to do. Deal with it, or don't: I couldn't care less. Misrepresenting what I said, though, isn't a good look for you.
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